NL25: 3-bet cold-called by 2p2er. What to do on turn with TPTK?
 

Villian in this hand is a 2p2er, and I think he is generally considered to be a pretty good player. I have him running at 14/11/1.5 after about 200 hands. I found this hand very confusing as cold-calling a 3-bet pre-flop is not something you see a good player do everyday.

When I got to the turn, I really wasn't sure what to do. After I checked, his 1/3 pot bet really confused me. How would you respond to this? Also, does anyone like a turn lead, and if so how much?


Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

Hero (SB): $26.40
BB: $24.65
UTG: $7.15
MP: $29.35
CO: $68.25
BTN: $10.65

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players)
3 folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $0.75</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2.75</font>, BB calls $2.50, BTN folds

Flop: ($6.25) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $4.65</font>, BB calls $4.65

Turn: ($15.55) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BB bets $5.00</font>, Hero ???

Re: NL25: 3-bet cold-called by 2p2er. What to do on turn with TPTK?
 

he's got 5's fold

usually when someone cold calls there they have a pocket pair.. if he has a suited connector he missed the flop unless it's JT.. and hearts to bet the turn.

Re: NL25: 3-bet cold-called by 2p2er. What to do on turn with TPTK?
 

call him down. Usually when a decent player takes this line preflop its jj/qq. And to be honest that looks a lot like the case queen on the flop.

Its call down or fold now. And folding now kind of sucks with his bet size. Do not raise or bet.

Re: NL25: 3-bet cold-called by 2p2er. What to do on turn with TPTK?
 

Against a decent player... I would think we now exercise pot control, no? We're either way behind or way ahead.

That turn bet is odd size. But he may be probing.

Thing is... if you have an overpair, you're not checking 2 streets, are you?

I feel like I have to call and call a reasonable river bet (or perhaps block it?)

Re: NL25: 3-bet cold-called by 2p2er. What to do on turn with TPTK?
 

no folding. When you check the turn you DEFINITELY have to call

Re: NL25: 3-bet cold-called by 2p2er. What to do on turn with TPTK?
 

If he is a good player he shouldn't have 5's or 9s as well really. I don't really know where we are but while he keeps the betting small I probably call down.

Re: NL25: 3-bet cold-called by 2p2er. What to do on turn with TPTK?
 

Call turn.

2p2 doesnt mean good tbh.

Re: NL25: 3-bet cold-called by 2p2er. What to do on turn with TPTK?
 

Looks to me to be a set. Maybe 5's or 9's. With Straight and flush draws unlikely he might be wanting to get some value from his set.

Re: NL25: 3-bet cold-called by 2p2er. What to do on turn with TPTK?
 

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Call turn.

2p2 doesnt mean good tbh.

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...and I think he is generally considered to be a pretty good player.

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Not sure if you missed this or if you didn't understand it. It means that I have seen a number of people comment that he is a pretty solid player.

Re: NL25: 3-bet cold-called by 2p2er. What to do on turn with TPTK?
 

idk who this is but i'm pretty sure we're ahead of their range (99-QQ,AQ+ but it varies obv). call down looks good, shoving also good.

Re: NL25: 3-bet cold-called by 2p2er. What to do on turn with TPTK?
 

What is your's and button's image and stats???

Villains hand smells like a set of QQ or JJ/TT...Stacks are not deep enough to play pairs for set value alone so I would discount the likely hood of 99 or 55..The $5 turn bet is interesting...The $5 would vitually committ hero to call a river shove getting 3 to 1...I think I CALL the turn and fold to any reasonable river bet...This pretty much means folding to any river bet..

Re: NL25: 3-bet cold-called by 2p2er. What to do on turn with TPTK?
 

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Call turn.

2p2 doesnt mean good tbh.

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...and I think he is generally considered to be a pretty good player.

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Not sure if you missed this or if you didn't understand it. It means that I have seen a number of people comment that he is a pretty solid player.

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I read it, then i saw the preflop action where he colds calls 11th of his stack off sandwiched between the preflop raiser and a reraiser and i dont consider it to be smart.

Perhaps he made a misclick, or can tell button doesnt have a hand and can tell you stack off with your hand always when he hits his set.

I dunno, but i dont think he's very good. However 'good' is very subjective and often unproven or even possible to prove. So maybe [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

Re: NL25: 3-bet cold-called by 2p2er. What to do on turn with TPTK?
 

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Call turn.

2p2 doesnt mean good tbh.

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...and I think he is generally considered to be a pretty good player.

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Not sure if you missed this or if you didn't understand it. It means that I have seen a number of people comment that he is a pretty solid player.

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I read it, then i saw the preflop action where he colds calls 11th of his stack off sandwiched between the preflop raiser and a reraiser and i dont consider it to be smart.

Perhaps he made a misclick, or can tell button doesnt have a hand and can tell you stack off with your hand always when he hits his set.

I dunno, but i dont think he's very good. However 'good' is very subjective and often unproven or even possible to prove. So maybe [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

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Button is short stacked so I do not think you can make these assumptions..If button was full stacked I would aggree 100%...Villain could easily have AA here trying to induce a shove from a short stacker thus trapping the SB..In fact if I was BB I would not 4 bet AA...I have position on the 3 better and will likely get his stack when he c-bets the flop...

Re: NL25: 3-bet cold-called by 2p2er. What to do on turn with TPTK?
 

similar names ftw?

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similar names ftw?

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Is it me?? What does ftw mean???

Re: NL25: 3-bet cold-called by 2p2er. What to do on turn with TPTK?
 

This really smells of TT or JJ. If he was set-mining with worse pps god bless his heart. I would call the turn. QQ+ is obviously possible, but somewhat less likely.

Re: NL25: 3-bet cold-called by 2p2er. What to do on turn with TPTK?
 

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similar names ftw?

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Is it me?? What does ftw mean???

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He is referring to me. microDonk and Micro Donk.

I'm pretty sure ftw means "for the win".

Re: NL25: 3-bet cold-called by 2p2er. What to do on turn with TPTK?
 

Ok, so it seems like a lot of people advocate calling down in this situation. What would you do if he bets bigger on the turn? I think one of my biggest leaks is toeing the line between being weak/tight and stacking of light with TPTK, so hands like this are the devil to me right now.

Re: NL25: 3-bet cold-called by 2p2er. What to do on turn with TPTK?
 

this is your dream flop, no folding no matter how big he bets on the turn