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could we stop saying "Allah" instead of God, its like saying Christians in Spain believe in the word of Dios.

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"God Ahkbar!" just doesn't have the same ring to it, imo.

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could I call him Jeff?

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could we stop saying "Allah" instead of God, its like saying Christians in Spain believe in the word of Dios.

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How about you not talk about something that doesn't exist.

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Does this mean we should never talk about Peter Pan either? Fictional characters/people are perfectly valid subjects.

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Does this mean we should never talk about Peter Pan either? Fictional characters/people are perfectly valid subjects.

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This isnt the lounge, there is room for jokes.

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could we stop saying "Allah" instead of God, its like saying Christians in Spain believe in the word of Dios.

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How about you not talk about something that doesn't exist.

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name your source or ban plz

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could we stop saying "Allah" instead of God, its like saying Christians in Spain believe in the word of Dios.

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Good point. Also, when talking about Islamic people, we should just call them Non-Christians. And anyone who isn't white should be called Non-White.

Seriously though, what's the point of this post other than to inflame muslims?

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could we stop saying "Allah" instead of God, its like saying Christians in Spain believe in the word of Dios.

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How about you not talk about something that doesn't exist.

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name your source or ban plz

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Common sense, the laws of physics, probability, observation...hope this helps. U R Welcome.

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Seriously though, what's the point of this post other than to inflame muslims?


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the point is to highlight that muslims believe in the same god as christians and jews, except for some reason retardotron christian advocates seem to think if they call god "allah" then they're able to differentiate between christianity and islam

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The God in Islam (Allah) is just one, and cannot be divided or seen as anything but one. The God in Christianity on the other hand is a trinity; the Father, Son and the Holy Spirit. As Muslims reject the idea of Jesus and the Holy Spirit being part of God they do not believe in the same God.

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It couldn't possibly be out of respect?

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muslims believe that muhammed is the seal of the prophets. i.e., moses then jesus then muhammed.

its the same god.

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In Christianity Jesus is not a mere prophet, he is part of God. Jesus is not part of the muslim God.

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From wikipedia, and I quote:

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In Islam, Allah is the only deity, transcendent creator of the universe, and the judge of humankind. Some Islamic scholars believe that the term "Allah" should not be translated, arguing that "Allah" as used in Islam is a special and glorified term whose use should be preserved, while God can also be used in reference to deities worshiped by polytheists.

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It would seem there's no way to type the special 'a' with a straight line over it used in the article. Or I don't know how to.

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From Wikipedia, and I quote: "Muslims believe that Allah cannot be held equal in any way to other beings or concepts. This monotheism is absolute, not relative or pluralistic in any sense of the word. It is for this reason that Muslims reject the concept of the Trinity held by most Christians."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tawhid

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The problem is that Muslims believe that Allah and the Christian/Jewish God are the same being and Christians do not. (Obviously I suppose because then they would be Muslims too.) It does seem rather silly to use a different term however since Jews also reject the trinity, but we still call the Jewish God 'God'.

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my expeirence with muslism is that most dont understand the trinity, much the same as how most christians dont understand islam. i.e. my friend Said told me, "you know the christians believe in 3 gods right?" I had to explain that no, christians believe in just one god, but he didn't get it.

taraz, you're right. why do we call the jewish god "god" but the muslim god "allah" when they're all really just dhimmi? its the same fckking god jesuschrist come on now

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why do we call the jewish god "god" but the muslim god "allah" when they're all really just dhimmi?

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Probably the same reason we have Jews and Christians and Presbetyrians (sp) and Lutherans and on and on and on. To denote the slight differences between them all.

For instance, I wouldn't call the color dark gray the color black, because it's not, even though it's very close.

On a side note, I'd love to see a war take place in America where all the different catholic and christian denominations would yell out the slight differences they have and run at each other, engaging in a slap fight to see who's religion is better.. "You believe in using birth control! Have at you!!"

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my expeirence with muslism is that most dont understand the trinity, much the same as how most christians dont understand the trinity. i.e. my friend Said told me, "you know the christians believe in 3 gods right?" I had to explain that no, christians believe in just one god,but that the one god is three gods but not really, but he didn't get it.



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my expeirence with muslism is that most dont understand the trinity, much the same as how most christians dont understand the trinity. i.e. my friend Said told me, "you know the christians believe in 3 gods right?" I had to explain that no, christians believe in just one god,but that the one god is three gods but not really, but he didn't get it.

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See, I went to Catholic school for 9 years and I still don't really get that. Like, does he separate for cocktail parties in Heaven? (That's what I always assumed. In 5th greade. Really.) Or what's the deal with that? That was always just one of those things that I said over and over until I had it memorized but never really that about the meaning.

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my expeirence with muslism is that most dont understand the trinity, much the same as how most christians dont understand the trinity. i.e. my friend Said told me, "you know the christians believe in 3 gods right?" I had to explain that no, christians believe in just one god,but that the one god is three gods but not really, but he didn't get it.

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See, I went to Catholic school for 9 years and I still don't really get that. Like, does he separate for cocktail parties in Heaven? (That's what I always assumed. In 5th greade. Really.) Or what's the deal with that? That was always just one of those things that I said over and over until I had it memorized but never really that about the meaning.

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More interestingly, the Judaic god is definitely "one". The christian god is definitely a regressive/atavistic concept with the trinity issue. There are no references to the trinity in the old testament, as far as I know. That really shows the heretical nature of christianity in relation to Judaism. In fact it puts it in the same light as the heretical nature of islam in relation to christianity.

PS the christians want their cake and eat it too, they want three persons in one god, and the muslims want they cake and eat it too, the recognized Jesus as a prophet but not as a god. Methinks islam is closer to judaism then christianity.

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Seriously though, what's the point of this post other than to inflame muslims?


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the point is to highlight that muslims believe in the same god as christians and jews, except for some reason retardotron christian advocates seem to think if they call god "allah" then they're able to differentiate between christianity and islam

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This belief is somehow retarded? I'm having trouble trying to see how it's even incorrect.

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Methinks islam is closer to judaism then christianity.

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in terms of historical cultural bonds, this is definitely true.

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obv islam and christianity aren't the same religion, so you can differentiate between them based on substance and what not. However, demagogues in our society say "allah" instead of "god" because if we acknowledge that muslims believe in god it makes them seem too much like ourselves.

purely imo and stoking the fires of discussion

but i think what really started this was when i heard that general guy a few years back say that we'll win in iraq because our god is bigger than their god. its the same god.

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Methinks islam is closer to judaism then christianity.

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in terms of historical cultural bonds, this is definitely true.

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obv islam and christianity aren't the same religion, so you can differentiate between them based on substance and what not. However, demagogues in our society say "allah" instead of "god" because if we acknowledge that muslims believe in god it makes them seem too much like ourselves.

purely imo and stoking the fires of discussion

but i think what really started this was when i heard that general guy a few years back say that we'll win in iraq because our god is bigger than their god. there is no god, so one cant be bigger than the other

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