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RichAM 10-03-2007 10:28 AM

NHL Under System - October Plays
 
If you missed the thread about the system it is here:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...=0#Post12035912

Also, someone on another forum has made a wonderful spreadsheet to go along with this system, you can dowload it here:

http://www.esksfans.com/download/NHL...ystem_v2.0.zip

Record: 0-0

Oct. 3

Ducks @ Red Wings Under 5.5 (-135)
1.35u to win 1u


Also, if you have any questions pertaining to this system I'll answer them for you. Now I know some people will come in here and flame away but I have Results from past years using this system so you can just flame away, I won't pay any attention to you. I said I wouldn't post this system here but I got a lot of PMs of people asking me to post the system here so I will for those people.

Enjoy The NHL Season!!!

MyTurn2Raise 10-03-2007 02:29 PM

Re: NHL Under System - October Plays
 
the theory behind the system shouldn't work in the opening week

MrFeelNothin 10-03-2007 02:34 PM

Re: NHL Under System - October Plays
 
Trying to HELP you understand why the system doesn't work is not flaming.



Aww, screw it. Can't wait to see you go broke.

NajdorfDefense 10-03-2007 03:28 PM

Re: NHL Under System - October Plays
 
Do players get tired opening week? NHL players??

MicroBob 10-03-2007 06:37 PM

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I think the players aren't as well conditioned in the opening-week as they are a couple weeks in.
They show up fresh and without injury for the most part of course.
But those first couple of games I think are similar to a pitcher's arm and his endurance....you just aren't all the way there yet.

NajdorfDefense 10-03-2007 06:41 PM

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Why?

And I don't think the endurance in a Center's leg muscles or defender's aerobic system after a full preseason is at all comparable to how MLB teams baby pitchers in S/Training. JMHO.

MrFeelNothin 10-03-2007 06:41 PM

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the theory behind the system shouldn't work ever

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MicroBob 10-03-2007 07:03 PM

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naj - my greater experience is with college hockey and I really don't know squat about the NHL so maybe I'm way off in my perception.
But at the beginning of the year I thought the players tended to be more tired after the games and the coaches had an awareness that shorter shifts could be necessary.

they're kind of easing their players into it from what I saw.

My guess is that if NHL players had to play a 3 OT game in a season-opener like they sometimes have to do in the playoffs things would get ugly really damn fast because they would be pretty much falling over each other.
By the time the post-season rolls around they are able to suck it up and actually do it although they are clearly dying out there somewhat.

Teams are rusty and not as strong at the beginning of the year generally and it doesn't just come from having gone awhile without games...it also comes from not being at the same level of tip-top shape that game after game brings you to and to your legs.

I think a similar thing happens in soccer too fwiw. 2nd half of the first game of the year the players simply run out of gas faster.

I might be way off on these though. The players themselves could tell you better. This is one of the types of things where the player's input would actually be accurate I suspect.

ClockWyze 10-03-2007 10:06 PM

Re: NHL Under System - October Plays
 
Don't listen to the haters.

Pay IT! 1-0

NajdorfDefense 10-04-2007 01:11 AM

Re: NHL Under System - October Plays
 
Bob, it sounds like you are saying coaches already compensate in a manner to make this type of betting useless.

Dudd 10-04-2007 01:46 AM

Re: NHL Under System - October Plays
 
He does say they compensate with shorter shifts, which means more dump ins and less setting up in the offensive zone and may mean less scoring, who knows. It's almost assuredly a bad bet because it's a Martingale, but who knows if the coaching has anything to do with it.

RichAM 10-04-2007 07:49 AM

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Record 1-0

Oct. 4

Game 1 (3/5) Devils @ Lightning u5.5 (-125)
1.25u to win 1u

Game 1 (3/4) Sharks @ Oilers u5.5 (-110)
1.1u to win 1u

coolmoedee 10-04-2007 09:17 AM

Re: NHL Under System - October Plays
 
Thanks for yesterdays pick, I'll be at the oiler game tonight so I'll try to keep the score low.

RichAM 10-05-2007 12:50 AM

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Great way to start the year, 3-0.

No plays till Oct. 9th

MrFeelNothin 10-05-2007 04:09 AM

Re: NHL Under System - October Plays
 
Why are you guys even trying to analyze the system?

If these bets had logical reasoning behind them that made them +EV then there would be no need to make it a chase system, and it would be really silly to STOP BETTING WHEN YOU WIN ONE.

GSykes 10-05-2007 09:42 AM

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in my degen mind i think this will work.

DO you bet more units on 4/6s or 3/4s?

RichAM 10-05-2007 01:18 PM

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in my degen mind i think this will work.

DO you bet more units on 4/6s or 3/4s?

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you bet to win the same unit (1)

GSykes 10-05-2007 07:06 PM

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in my degen mind i think this will work.

DO you bet more units on 4/6s or 3/4s?

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you bet to win the same unit (1)

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I will follow your progress [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

RichAM 10-09-2007 01:04 PM

Re: NHL Under System - October Plays
 
Series Record 3-0

Oct. 9

Game 1 (3/5) Hurricanes @ Maple Leafs u6 (-125)
1.25u to win 1u

CrushinFelt 10-09-2007 01:43 PM

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isn't -125 a little gross? does the system care about the price?

RichAM 10-09-2007 01:59 PM

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isn't -125 a little gross? does the system care about the price?

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Yeah, I'm sure others can get it at cheaper price somewhere else but I'm not price shopping like I should.

Hithard 10-09-2007 02:05 PM

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Does the system only apply to a team's road series? If it does, this is only the 2nd game of carolina's road series.

RichAM 10-09-2007 02:28 PM

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Does the system only apply to a team's road series? If it does, this is only the 2nd game of carolina's road series.

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Here is a breakdown of the system.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...=0#Post12035912

rsigley 10-09-2007 04:54 PM

Re: NHL Under System - October Plays
 
who needs to line shop with a 100% win rate!!!!

sanmarcosrun1 10-09-2007 06:48 PM

Re: NHL Under System - October Plays
 
Someone correct me if I am wrong here. Isn't any "successful system" only as good as the lines and prices it gets? Not taking the best lines and prices is essentially the same as handing extra money to the sportsbook being used is it not?

Thremp 10-09-2007 07:00 PM

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Someone correct me if I am wrong here. Isn't any "successful system" only as good as the lines and prices it gets? Not taking the best lines and prices is essentially the same as handing extra money to the sportsbook being used is it not?

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Yes.

MrFeelNothin 10-09-2007 07:09 PM

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Someone correct me if I am wrong here. Isn't any "successful system" only as good as the lines and prices it gets? Not taking the best lines and prices is essentially the same as handing extra money to the sportsbook being used is it not?

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When they're going to get all your monies anyways, it doesn't really matter.

Kevroc 10-10-2007 02:57 AM

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The only thing tired in this game was the Leaf defence!!

LOL @ TORONTO.

Bad beat OP, good luck going forward.

RichAM 10-10-2007 04:04 AM

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The only thing tired in this game was the Leaf defence!!

LOL @ TORONTO.

Bad beat OP, good luck going forward.

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That was Game 1 ... there will be game losses lol. That's why it's a Chase System.

Kevroc 10-10-2007 05:40 AM

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The only thing tired in this game was the Leaf defence!!

LOL @ TORONTO.

Bad beat OP, good luck going forward.

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That was Game 1 ... there will be game losses lol. That's why it's a Chase System.

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What does that mean Rich?

Does that mean we go 2 units on the under in Caro's next game?

MrFeelNothin 10-10-2007 05:56 AM

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The only thing tired in this game was the Leaf defence!!

LOL @ TORONTO.

Bad beat OP, good luck going forward.

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That was Game 1 ... there will be game losses lol. That's why it's a Chase System.

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What does that mean Rich?

Does that mean we go 2 units on the under in Caro's next game?

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WOW, how do you follow a system like this and you don't even know what you are getting into.


Read the first thread. Use your brain. Don't do it.

hedgie43 10-10-2007 06:39 AM

Re: NHL Under System - October Plays
 
I, for one, can't wait to see RichAM go broke so we don't have this garbage thread polluting the forum in the future.

coolmoedee 10-10-2007 09:32 AM

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The guys is 3-1 on the year.....maybe his system doesn't have the same logic as other systems but he isn't just pulling these out of his ass....so give him a chance....my bankroll is..lol

cefis21 10-10-2007 10:11 AM

Re: NHL Under System - October Plays
 
Kind of sad people had to wait 4 games to finally criticize his picks. I really dont see anyone else on this forum proving they can pick and make a half ass decent profit. Except for that Rugby guy.

rsigley 10-10-2007 10:17 AM

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The guys is 3-1 on the year.....maybe his system doesn't have the same logic as other systems but he isn't just pulling these out of his ass....so give him a chance....my bankroll is..lol

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true no doubt

its hard to go 3-1 without a winning system

rsigley 10-10-2007 10:35 AM

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Kind of sad people had to wait 4 games to finally criticize his picks. I really dont see anyone else on this forum proving they can pick and make a half ass decent profit. Except for that Rugby guy.

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pretty sure most people were criticizing the system before he even posted picks because they actually thought about it for a second and realized how wrong it is instead of blindly following

hedgie43 10-10-2007 02:15 PM

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Cefis,

People have been criticizing this for awhile. If you went into the Other Gambling Games forum and suggested that Martingaling blackjack was profitable, you would get laughed out of there. That's basically what this system is.

As for "that rugby guy", I've only posted 24 picks (and a couple futures) so I wouldn't go saying that I've proven I can turn a consistent profit as that is a very small sample size. I have my Excel spreadsheets to tell me that I am a winner over a reasonable number of rugby bets but this forum does not have that information to go by.

RichAM 10-10-2007 02:35 PM

Re: NHL Under System - October Plays
 
Record 3-0 (1 pending)

Oct. 10

Game 1 Bruins @ Ducks u5.5 (-135)
1.35u to win 1u

Game 1 Flames @ Red Wings u5 (+110)
0.91u to win 1u - (Some are still waiting for a better line)

RichAM 10-10-2007 02:36 PM

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The only thing tired in this game was the Leaf defence!!

LOL @ TORONTO.

Bad beat OP, good luck going forward.

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That was Game 1 ... there will be game losses lol. That's why it's a Chase System.

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What does that mean Rich?

Does that mean we go 2 units on the under in Caro's next game?

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What you do is take the unit + vig you lost in game 1 and add 1 more unit to that, now that is what you have to win on game 2.

Parlay Slow 10-10-2007 03:17 PM

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so like a martingale?


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