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BretWeir 10-02-2007 09:20 PM

Japan trip report, with pics
 
So last month, my wife and I spent two weeks in Japan: a week in Tokyo, three days in Hakone (sort of the Japanese countryside, near Mt. Fuji), and four days in Kyoto. Neither of us speak Japanese (apart from the "Japanese for tourists" CD series Mrs. Weir listened to) and we had never been to Asia, but we decided to stay away from organized tours and just check things out for ourselves. It was a great time, and we ended up with over 2,000 pictures.

Rather than a city-by-city trip report, I thought I'd start with one of the highlights of our trip: the two Japanese major league baseball games we attended. If people are interested, I'm happy to take requests and post follow up reports on whatever you want -- food, entertainment, you name it. Just let me know what you want to see.

So here's our first baseball game, on our very first evening in Tokyo:

Yakult Swallows vs. Yokohama BayStars

The Swallows are one of two teams in Tokyo proper -- the other are the Yomiuri Giants, the New York Yankees of Japan. The Swallows are more like the Kansas City Royals of Japan: not a particularly storied franchise, plus they had Aaron Guiel starting in right field. The Giants are owned by Japan's biggest newspaper; the Swallows by a yogurt health-drink company. The Tokyo Dome was all sold out, so we headed to Meiji Jingu Stadium to watch the Swallows take on sort-of cross-town rivals, the Yokohama BayStars. (Yokohama's about 45 minutes outside Tokyo).

Jingu Stadium is one of the oldest in Japan -- over 80 years old. And it's located right in downtown Tokyo, giving the park kind of a Fenway feel. Old-fashined, quaint and a nice place to watch a ballgame. Here's the exterior:

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The ballpark is actually owned by the Meiji Shrine, which is the biggest Shinto shrine in Japan. The park is located in the shrine's "Outer Garden"; the shrine itself is in the Inner Garden a few blocks away.

The park holds 48,000, but there were maybe 15,000 at the weekday evening game we attended. Like a bunch of Japanese stadiums, the field was all astroturf. There's also a chain-link fence separating the stands from the infield, supposedly to protect the fans from foul balls.

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We got to the stadium about an hour early, so we checked out the food options before the game started. Here's the stand near our seats:

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You can get hot dogs, popcorn, and some other traditional ballpark items, but there are also more... exotic options. Like sushi, yakitori, and the "ebikatsu-dog," which appeared to be a hot dog made out of fried shrimp and topped with mayonnaise.

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I took the middle ground between familiar and freaky and got a bowl of delicious udon noodles, which they were cooking fresh under the stands. There were about 10 different types of hot sauces and condiments at the stand, and I decided to pour some of each on, much to the amusement of the noodle ladies. The end result:

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One of the cooler things about Japan are the beer girls who work the ballgames; they wear bright neon outfits and carry backpacks that are basically mini-kegs. So you can get an ice-cold draft beer without leaving your seat. I ended up making friends with the Kirin girl:

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[Random aside: Whenever I saw an under 25 year old girl posing for a picture in Japan, 90% of the time, they'd do the two finger salute-type gesture shown above. I have no idea.]

Anyway, the beer definitely ended up going down easier than Mrs. Weir's Fanta, which in Japan -- as we discovered -- is flourescent green and tastes like melon.

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And when you're done eating, you can grab a smoke from one of the in-stadium cigarette vending machines! NYC-style anti-smoking laws have not yet reached Japan (at least not this part of it.)

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So what about the game itself? Apart from some first inning shenanigans, it was pretty unremarkable. Neither Yakult nor Yokohama are Central League powerhouses (both finished the season in the second division), and the game was pretty lopsided from the start. The level of play, in general, looked to be somewhere between AA and AAA ball.

The stadium was only 1/3 full, and the oendan -- the organized cheering sections -- while present, weren't at full strength. If you've never been to a Japanese game, there's very little individual cheering. Instead, each player has one or two personalized cheers that a group of die-hard fans chant before each at bat. The cheerers sit together, meet before the game to practice, and some groups have quasi-military hierarchies and demerit systems. The Swallows oendan was ok, but frankly they got out-cheered by the visiting section. They did have some cool transparent umbrellas that they used to do a dance during the seventh inning stretch.

One of the strangest things about being at a Japanese ball game is that the fans cheer the players, not the plays. So, the oendan will get a loud organized chant going for a hitter every time he comes to the plate. But it ends before he swings, and if ends up driving in the go-ahead run, there's just polite applause. Takes some getting used to.

I was sitting pretty far from either of the organized sections, and the "regular people" at the game were almost dead silent. As an ugly American, I was doing pretty standard U.S.-style cheering and heckling (including of the umps) throughout the game and got a lot of bemused looks from my neighbors. [I was actually sitting in an oendan section at my next game, and will have much more interesting cheering stuff in part 2 of the TR.]

Anyway, here's a picture of the home cheering section in the right field grandstands. Note the ginornmous Yakult flag, which they waved every time a new Swallows hitter came to the plate. There was also someone with a tuba or sousaphone or something who was basically leading the organized cheers.

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The game ended up being a Yokohama blow-out, desipte the fact that the BayStars made what I think may have been the most absolutely boneheaded play I've ever seen in the first inning. Top of the first, Yokohama's leadoff man gets on with a base hit. Their shortstop is hitting second and batting over .380 -- like, almost a hundred points higher than anyone else on the club. So what does he do with the first pitch? Bunts it foul. I'm rubbing my eyes, thinking "It's the first inning -- did I just see that?" Second pitch -- hitter shows bunt again , and misses a called strike. WTF? Pitcher winds up for the third pitch, and I think, "Well, at least he's not going to bunt again." The batter bunts again and pops it foul, for strike three. The batter sits down, the Japanese fans politely applaud, and I sit there with smoke rising from my head like a Star Trek evil computer presented with a logical paradox it cannot understand. I decide it's my moral imperative to root against Yokohama for the rest of the game.

I was too dumbfounded to take a picture of the play, but here's an MSPaint that'll give you the gist of it:

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I did learn two important things from this play. First, while some Japanese players may shine in MLB, as long as their managers are calling plays at a sub-Little League level, Japanese baseball as an institution will never rival the U.S. (That and the fact that Aaron Guiel was challenging for their home run title.)

But more importantly, I got an insight into Japanese culture. I had read a lot about the country before visiting -- about the Japanese ideals of subordinating the individual to the greater whole, of teamwork and loyalty above all else. Commendable virtues, noble even. But I hadn't realized that the Japanese apply them even when it's totally [censored] stupid to do so -- like giving your leading hitter the bunt sign with two strikes in the first inning. Americans may be disorganized, obnoxious and generally boorish, but we'd never let something like this go down. No manager would try it, and no player would follow it. Now I know why we kicked their ass in WW2.

Anyway, despite retarded managing and playing on the other team's (literally) holy ground, the gods were with Yokohama that night, who closed out a 9 to 1 laugher (Yakult's only run being driven in by -- who else? -- Aaron Guiel). Mrs. Weir and I did make an appearance on the stadium Jumbotron, as two of a few non-Japanese fans featured on what we dubbed "Gaijin Cam." Didn't react fast enough for a picture, but here's the scoreboard and big screen, which was pretty cool looking:

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All in all, a good time -- though less eventful than our second game, TR to follow. As an added bonus, we headed to Roppongi that night to see (on the advice of some OOT posters) The Silver Beats, a group of Japanese Beatles impersonators who were completely amazing. If you ever get to Tokyo, do not miss these guys:

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CLIFF NOTES: Watched baseball game at Shinto holy site and ate yummy noodles; Japanese managing still stuck in dead-ball era.

josh_x 10-02-2007 09:30 PM

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awesome trip report, more please!

Kneel B4 Zod 10-02-2007 09:31 PM

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this is cool, would love to see more non-baseball pics

slimon 10-02-2007 09:35 PM

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I would like to see more japanese food!

daryn 10-02-2007 09:40 PM

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holy [censored] dude.. you actually took my advice and went to the silver beats show. that is incredible!! awesome right?

Dominic 10-02-2007 09:44 PM

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wow, very cool...more, please!

I saw the Yomuri Giants play when I visited Tokyo about twenty years ago and it remains one of my all-time favorite travel experiences:

When I first visited Tokyo, I was about 19...I went to a baseball game with my buddy and it was great fun. Like An American college football game. Colorful banners, songs and chants, and everyone having a great time. Instead of guys walking around selling peanuts, they sold seaweed on a stick!


One experience made me marvel at how completely nice and helpful the Japanese are:

I went to a concession stand and ordered a lemonade. I had seen someone else with one and he had ice in it. Well, I got one without ice and tried asking for some ice to be put into my drink. I didn't speak Japanese, the concession guy didn't speak English. I tried pantomiming ice - cold, brrr, shivering - a group of customers gathered around and tried to help, shouting out instructions to the concession guy.

The guy kept running around behind his counter picking up random things and showing me. I'd shake my head and keep "shivering." Finally, he picked up some ice from below the counter (I couldn't see it) - I pointed and said, "that's it" with a big smile. About 15 Japanese people shouted and cheered and pounded my back like I had just hit a home run.

Best lemonade I ever had.

BretWeir 10-02-2007 09:44 PM

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These guys were unbelievable -- maybe the best live act I've ever seen.

For those who haven't seen them, they're a Beatles tribute band with their own venue called the Cavern Club, made up to look kind of like the club in Liverpool where the Beatles got their start. Paul, George and Ringo were Japanese and John was caucasian (Australian, I think). The songs were pitch-perfect; if I closed my eyes, they sounded just like the Beatles. And they do something like six sets a night five nights a week, and four sets the other two nights. Between sets, they banter with the audience in Japanese, which is completely jarring and very cool,even though I couldn't understand a word. (Though I think they were ragging on one audience member for being from Yokohama.)

TiK 10-02-2007 09:47 PM

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Lol!! Fantastic trip report! "Gaijin-cam". awesome.

BretWeir 10-02-2007 09:52 PM

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I went to a concession stand and ordered a lemonade. I had seen someone else with one and he had ice in it. Well, I got one without ice and tried asking for some ice to be put into my drink. I didn't speak Japanese, the concession guy didn't speak English. I tried pantomiming ice - cold, brrr, shivering - a group of customers gathered around and tried to help, shouting out instructions to the concession guy.

The guy kept running around behind his counter picking up random things and showing me. I'd shake my head and keep "shivering." Finally, he picked up some ice from below the counter (I couldn't see it) - I pointed and said, "that's it" with a big smile. About 15 Japanese people shouted and cheered and pounded my back like I had just hit a home run.


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Cool story. Mrs. Weir had a similar experience at the ballgame. She went to the food stand I posted a picture of and tried to order some potato chips, which were labeled (in English) "Potato Chips." The workers couldn't understand her, so she started pointing, pantomiming opening a box and eating potato chips, peeling potatos, etc. Finally, in desparation, she started saying "potato chips" with a fake-Japanese kind of pronunciation -- "potaru chippu! potaru chippu!" And immediately the girl was like, "Ah, potaru chippu!" and hands her the container of chips. When she got back to the seat she started feeling guilty and was like, "Was that racist?"

Anyway, the potato chips were black pepper flavor and incredibly good.

And yes, my experience was that -- with just a few exceptions -- the Japanese were incredibly nice and helpful.

daryn 10-02-2007 09:59 PM

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http://www.silverbeats.com/english/about.html#04

check out some of the nice engrish in the bios

daryn 10-02-2007 10:02 PM

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somehow still every time i hear baby you can drive my car i think of that show i saw

HoldingFolding 10-02-2007 11:06 PM

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1. A Hanshin Tigers home game (preferably against the Giants) is phenomenal. My friend, who's a MLB scout, who visited, said it was the best atmosphere he'd ever experienced at a baseball game - anywhere.
2. Mrs Weir was not being racist. Foreign words are transposed into Japanese using a 'restricted' set of phonetics. So the word 'chips' transposed into Japanese, then transposed back into English would read 'chippusu'. They are often abbreviated.

See if you can guess what these are:
1. konbini
2. sekuhara
3. makudonarudo
4. rorikon

BretWeir 10-02-2007 11:19 PM

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[ QUOTE ]
1. A Hanshin Tigers home game (preferably against the Giants) is phenomenal. My friend, who's a MLB scout, who visited, said it was the best atmosphere he'd ever experienced at a baseball game - anywhere.
2. Mrs Weir was not being racist. Foreign words are transposed into Japanese using a 'restricted' set of phonetics. So the word 'chips' transposed into Japanese, then transposed back into English would read 'chippusu'. They are often abbreviated.

See if you can guess what these are:
1. konbini
2. sekuhara
3. makudonarudo
4. rorikon

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We tried to get tickets to see the Tigers, but every Hanshin game -- home or away -- was completely sold out at least 6 weeks in advance. Same deal with the high school tournament at Koshien, which was going on while we were in the country. But yeah, I've heard Giants-Tigers rivals the Yankees-Red Sox rivalry and would love to see them some day.

We both knew about phonetic transliteration, but white guilt took over when she had to put it into action. It took us a while to figure out "Makudonarudo," but we had a good laugh once we did.

ImsaKidd 10-02-2007 11:34 PM

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[ QUOTE ]
http://www.silverbeats.com/english/about.html#04

check out some of the nice engrish in the bios

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Oh my god:

"He pees on demand."

YoungOne 10-03-2007 02:15 AM

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BW,

Post more random pictures of men and women living their life.

Fav picture so far is those two cute vendors working the counter.

thanks

NoahSD 10-03-2007 12:17 PM

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Please post more trip report.

How accessible is Japan for someone who only speaks English?

How ridic awesome is the food?

El Diablo 10-03-2007 02:06 PM

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BW,

Japan is 1 of the 2 places on my list of "haven't been but must visit" destinations (Australia is the other).

Hopefully I'll have a trip in the next year or two. This is an incredible trip report, thanks!

RobBizzle 10-03-2007 02:24 PM

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[ QUOTE ]
Please post more trip report.

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BretWeir 10-03-2007 08:51 PM

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Here's the second part of the Japanese baseball report; if you guys are still interested, I'll post some non-baseball stuff here tonight or tomorrow. Sorry for the novel-like length; Cliff Notes are below.

Chiba Lotte Marines v. Seibu Lions

On our last evening in Tokyo, Mrs. Weir and I headed out to the suburb of Chiba -- about 45 minutes east of Tokyo -- to watch the Marines play the Seibu Lions, who are based about 45 minutes north of Tokyo. (Yes, there are like six Japanese League teams within an hour of Tokyo.)

Marine Stadium looks like somebody picked up Shea and dropped it on the shore of Tokyo Bay. Same round, blue, 1960s style architecture, even the same blue and orange color scheme inside. It's even on the flightpath for Narita airport.

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The Shea parallels are appropriate, because the Marines are managed by ex-Met skipper Bobby Valentine. They also feature a few ex-Mets on the roster, like Benny Agbayani.

Unlike some of the other Japanese teams, the Marines really seem to embrace their foreign players. Japanese pro teams are limited to four foreign players each, who are called "suketto" -- literally, "helpers." In recent years, foreign players (often MLB castoffs) have dominated the league and challenged most of the Japanese hitting records, but get a fraction of the attention of native born Japanese players.

Last year, for example, two ex-MLB players, Adams Riggs and Alex Ramirez, led most offensive categories for the Yakult Swallows. Both were back this year, but I couldn't find a Riggs or Ramirez jersey at any souvenir shop in the Swallows' stadium. And the cheers for these guys were noticably quieter than for Japanese hitters.

Anyway, thanks to Bobby Valentine, the Marines seem to play a more "American" style of baseball than most other Japanese teams, and the fans seemed really into their Western players. Unfortunately, I missed the on-field ballroom dancing exhibition that Bobby Valentine puts on (in tuxedo) before home games, but here's a picture of him on the Jumbotron.

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Marine Stadium is pretty close to Tokyo Disneyland, and the team has adopted Donald Duck as its mascot.

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The pre-game festivities were pretty elaborate. The featured Donald and what was apparently his duck girlfriend beating a huge traditional Japanese drum in the outfield, while a crew of kimono-clad women and little kids surrounded him in a circle and did a dance.

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A bunch of other guys in traditional attire were stationed over the home dugout and beating drums, and then a troop of Western-style cheerleaders took the field and did some cheers.

After this, a car drove out to the pitcher's mound and unloaded two spaceman looking guys -- one with a yellow head that looked like a condom, and another who looked vaguely familiar.

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So condom-head stood in the batter's box while Japanese El D, flanked by Donald and Mrs. Duck, threw out the first pitch. I know this makes no sense reading it, but it made even less sense if you were there.

The game was a sell-out, and Mrs. Weir and I had unreserved tickets, which means we climbed to the top of the grandstand and looked for two open seats. We ended up sitting on the edge of the oendan -- organized cheering group -- section, which had overflowed from the right field bleachers into the regular seats. Mrs. Weir was wearing a Yankees cap and keeping score, and two different people asked if she was a Major League scout.

The game itself was pretty exciting -- close most of the way through, with some great defensive plays and timely hitting. What really made the game memorable, though, were the fans. With the full stadium, the noise level was pretty high, and being in the midst of the cheering section was awesome.

Here's a long-distance view of the main home cheering section -- note the coordinated costumes. You can't really see it in this picture, but they were doing some kind of choreographed waving cheer at the time:

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And here's a view from the middle of the action:

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Each player had at least two personalized cheers, which were in a combination of Engrish and Japanese. Many of them had accompanying dances, arm movements, etc. After about two innings, I started getting the hang of the chants and cheering along -- pretty loudly. At first people were laughing, like it was kind of a novelty (and I'm sure I was mangling the Japanese). But after a couple more innings, I was really getting into it and the two guys behind us -- who seemed like the informal "section bosses" for our seats -- started encouraging me and teaching me some more cheers.

They didn't speak English and I didn't speak Japanese, but we managed to communicate through pantomime, pointing and pressing into service another guy further down the row who spoke a little English. Anyway, they bought us beers and shared some of their dried squid jerky with us, and I gave them my business card and invited them to Yankee Stadium if they ever made it to NYC. Here's my new friend doing a pose he called the "samurai":

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The highlight came at the 7th inning stretch, where instead of singing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame," the whole crowd sings the team song, entitled -- I'm not kidding -- "We Love Marines." Before the song starts, everybody blows up these three-foot long white ballons, which you hold and wave while singing (my friends in the back row gave me my own balloon). At the end of the song, the crowd releases thousands of balloons, which shoot all over the field. Here's some video I shot of the event.

About 3/4 of the way through the clip, you can hear Mrs. Weir say "Good work, Chris!" This is the point where I, being so enchanted by the flying balloons, accidentally dumped my beer all over the quiet Japanese guy sitting next to me. It was only half full, but somehow got his entire body and hair soaking wet. I felt terrible and spent the next 20 minutes saying "sumimasen, sumimasen" (Japanese for "excuse me" -- one of the five or so words I knew). The guy was pretty stoic and cool about it, but my cheering section buddies thought the whole thing was hilarious.

Here are a couple of the player cheers; the video's pretty crappy, but the audio's ok.

* This was for a guy named Jose Ortiz, and it basically consists of singing "Jose, Jose, Jose" over and over again to the tune of "I've Been Working on the Railroad"/"Battle Hymn of the Republic". Note the horn and synchronized clapping.

* This was is the "Let's Go Saburo" song for outfielder Saburo Omura; it also seems to be one of the more melodically complex cheers.

* I don't remember who this was for, but it involves synchronized hopping and the Japanese version of the tomahawk chop.

Chiba ended up dropping the game 5-4, but staged a near-rally in the ninth when they got the tying run to third. The stadium really woke up for this, with lots of un-organized cheering.

The post-game festivities were pretty surreal, with more dancing and drum playing by giant ducks, joined by the Seibu Lion and more kimono chicks.

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Here are two of the Chiba Lotte geishas posing for me:

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And Mrs. Weir chilling with the Seibu Lion:

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And finally, bonus pic of Marine Stadium beer girl:

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CLIFF NOTES: Bobby V. leaves Flushing for Land of Rising Sun; I get named honorary member of cheering section and spill beer on innocent bystander.

hanimal 10-03-2007 09:05 PM

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I wanna marry a beer girl and this TR is awesome!

BretWeir 10-03-2007 09:10 PM

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Please post more trip report.

How accessible is Japan for someone who only speaks English?

How ridic awesome is the food?

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I found it pretty accessible for day-to-day sightseeing. The subways all have English translations, and most signs are also in English. Most Japanese know enough English so that you can get by ordering food, etc. through a combination of pointing, English, and ten or so basic Japanese phrases. Obviously, TV doesn't make much sense (not sure if it makes much more if you speak Japanese, honestly), and you're at a disadvantage in museums and places like that, but it's definitely do-able.

I think it would be strange traveling alone; there aren't many people you can sit down and have a conversation with. In our 2 weeks there, Mrs. Weir and I had in-depth conversations (in English) with maybe 5 Japanese people. So there is something of a feeling of being a stranger in a strange land.

It helps tremendously to have a good hotel concierge who can make reservations for you; communication was much, much harder over the phone than in person.

I'll be posting some food stuff later. Short answer is that most of the food was either ridiculously great, or completely screwed up. Not much middle ground.

Kintamayama 10-03-2007 09:11 PM

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Awesome trip report, which has me even more psyched up for my own trip to Japan a couple weeks from now.

BTW, as another poster mentioned, there's nothing to feel guilty about in using the Japanese pronunciation for the many borrowed words they use. It sounds perfectly correct to them!

daryn 10-03-2007 09:16 PM

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excellent

Chrisman886 10-03-2007 09:25 PM

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I thoroughly enjoyed all of this. Thanks for taking the time to share.

theclock 10-03-2007 09:35 PM

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Good read, totally agree with:

"I think it would be strange traveling alone; there aren't many people you can sit down and have a conversation with. In our 2 weeks there, Mrs. Weir and I had in-depth conversations (in English) with maybe 5 Japanese people. So there is something of a feeling of being a stranger in a strange land."

I get that feeling all the time in Japan.

BretWeir 10-03-2007 09:37 PM

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BW,

Post more random pictures of men and women living their life.

Fav picture so far is those two cute vendors working the counter.

thanks

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Here's one random, on-the-street pic. A couple of times a day, you'd see women in formal kimono walking down the street or on the subway; I guess some jobs still require traditional dress. Anyway, here's a kimono-wearing woman we walked past standing outside a pachinko parlor smoking a cig.

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I'll look for some more "day in the life" type stuff.

slimon 10-03-2007 11:59 PM

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So Japan would be a terrible place to go by yourself kind of like lost in translation where you feel kind of lonely and isolated?

BretWeir 10-04-2007 12:03 AM

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So Japan would be a terrible place to go by yourself kind of like lost in translation where you feel kind of lonely and isolated?

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Not terrible, necessarily -- there's still lots of stuff to see and do. But there's some truth to the Lost in Translation comparison. If you're looking to mingle with the locals, there's not a lot of that going on (and we tried). I imagine I would have gone stir-crazy after a week or so if Mrs. Weir wasn't there to talk to. Which is why I think a lot of expats there for the medium- to long-term tend to spend most of their time around each other in the "Western" parts of the city (like Roppongi).

Incidentally, we stayed at the Lost In Translation hotel in Tokyo and it was awesome in every way.

M2d 10-04-2007 02:14 AM

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It helps tremendously to have a good hotel concierge who can make reservations for you; communication was much, much harder over the phone than in person.


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most service industry people we found in Tokyo had a very good command of english. (minor brag coming) that all didn't matter much to my wife and I, though, because we had my two english speaking cousins (spend a year in NZ learning english, so their command of the language was awesome) taking us almost everywhere for three stright days.

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How ridic awesome is the food?

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I'll be posting some food stuff later. Short answer is that most of the food was either ridiculously great, or completely screwed up. Not much middle ground.

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because of the aforementioned cousins, we really didn't hit up any "tourist" type of restaurants. we hit up places that they (locals) liked to go to, themselves. One evening, my cousin took us to a tremendous upscale fusion type restaurant that she had worked in where every dish was done to perfection and every dish's presentation was completely on point (sashimi course was served inside a 3/4 globe of ice about 6" in diameter. from that restaurant, we went bar hopping and ended up in my cousin's friend's bar in shinjuku, further stuffing ourselves on roasted kabocha, perfect yakitori, sashimi platters and other down home bar type food. the joints we hit that night were on complete opposite ends of the culinary spectrum, but both were amazingly good.

later dining ventures on our weekend included the best tempura I've ever eaten (It was my favorite food growing up and is currently one of my japanese benchmark dishes, so i've eaten a lot of tempura in my day) and the best sashimi/sushi I've ever eaten (and I've eaten toro straight off of a freshly fileted ahi tuna that had been swimming an hour earlier). it was so good for dinner that we went back for breakfast (yes, sushi for breakfast) the next two mornings, since we discovered that the restaurant was a 24 hour place.
for the record, it's been three weeks since i've been back and I haven't had japanese food yet (I usually eat japanese at least three times a week, between dinners out, dinners cooked at home and lunch at work). I just can't bring myself to eat the pale comparison that we have here in california.

M2d 10-04-2007 02:21 AM

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damn, I wanted to go to a Lotte game when I was there, but we didn't have enough time. Ben's my homeboy and I played with and against him from little league up to college. he's done very well there and seems to like the atmosphere in Japan, even though he was very aprehensive when he first considered going over there.

BretWeir 10-04-2007 01:34 PM

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Benny seemed to be a real fan favorite when I was there. Outside the stadium, there's a monument to commemorate the team winning the 2005 Asia Championship, with all the players' handprints and signatures. Here's his:

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Dominic 10-04-2007 01:47 PM

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wait a minute...Bobby Valentine does WHAT before the games???

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So I just looked this up to make sure I had it straight: Apparently, Bobby V was a high school ballroom dancing champion growing up in Connecticut. The Japanese got wind of this, so he now does dancing exhibitions at the Stadium before Saturday home games (according to this article, he "teaches the cha-cha to Marines fans") as part of an effort more female fans to the park. Nothing about the tux-clad on-field dancing in the article, but I'm pretty sure I saw it on SportsCenter about a year ago.

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This place has a scary looking clown as it's mascot, right?

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So I just looked this up to make sure I had it straight: Apparently, Bobby V was a high school ballroom dancing champion growing up in Connecticut. The Japanese got wind of this, so he now does dancing exhibitions at the Stadium before Saturday home games (according to this article, he "teaches the cha-cha to Marines fans") as part of an effort more female fans to the park. Nothing about the tux-clad on-field dancing in the article, but I'm pretty sure I saw it on SportsCenter about a year ago.

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This is awesome. Your trip report is awesome. [censored] dude, this is the best trip report EVER and this is just the baseball part of the report. I'm looking forward to the rest. You've made me nostaligic for my childhood and adolescent trips to Japan.

Dominic 10-04-2007 07:00 PM

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So I just looked this up to make sure I had it straight: Apparently, Bobby V was a high school ballroom dancing champion growing up in Connecticut. The Japanese got wind of this, so he now does dancing exhibitions at the Stadium before Saturday home games (according to this article, he "teaches the cha-cha to Marines fans") as part of an effort more female fans to the park. Nothing about the tux-clad on-field dancing in the article, but I'm pretty sure I saw it on SportsCenter about a year ago.

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this is perhaps the most awesomest sports story ever. I'm tickled pink by this. Could you imagine if Bill Parcell taught yoga or something before Giants games back in the 80s?

effang 10-04-2007 08:29 PM

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that noodle girl is smoking.

BretWeir 10-04-2007 09:56 PM

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A few people have asked about the food in Japan, so here are some random thoughts and a bunch of pics.

Japanese Food: Tokyo

You can get Western-style food in Japan, and if you go to a really nice place, it can be really good. Like this smoked salmon and poached shrimp in dill sauce that we had at the Fujiya Hotel in Hakone, one of the oldest Western-style restaurants in Japan:

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But at less fancy places, Japanese execution of Western food is hit-or-miss. Japanese McDonalds', for example, have fried shrimp burgers and something called "McPork." And this Tokyo fast food place appeared to feature a double cheeseburger with a fried egg and a huge scoop of potato salad on top:

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And occassionally, things go very, very wrong, producing stuff like this:

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We generally avoided Western food and stuck with Japanese style places. Most of the restaurants (at least the good ones) are unbelievably specialized. If you go to a tempura place, you can't order noodles or sushi -- just tempura. There are restaurants dedicated to grilled chicken, pork cutlets, specific types of fish, etc.

Here are a few of our favorite places:

Daiwa Sushi

We had sushi breakfast at this famous hole-in-the-wall sushi shop located in Tokyo's Tsukiji Fish Market. I posted a longer report with some pics in the sushi thread; suffice it to say that this was the freshest, best sushi I've ever had. Here's a sample:

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Kondo

This was a small, really good tempura place on the 8th floor of a Ginza commercial building. (Bars and restaurants in Tokyo are often located on higher floors; the buildings have high vertical signs listing the occupants of each floor. It's not unusual to have, for example, a hairdresser on the third floor, a sushi place on the fourth, and a massage parlor on the fifth.)

Tempura is pieces of vegetables or seafood that are battered and flash-fried. Chef Kondo manned the fryer while his assistant cut and prepped the food:

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We had a set menu that included 5 or 6 different vegetable tempura (bell peppers, okra, eggplant, radish, and some others), two kinds of fish, two pieces of shrimp, and then a rice dish served with tea and fried scallops.
The only adornments were sea salt, lime juice and soy sauce. Here's an example:

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Chef Kondo really was an artist. He had a different type of batter for each kind of food, and worked the fryer like an expert. The tempura was fresh, totally not greasy and very delicate. And the seafood was ridiculously fresh. The shrimp were kept in a tank and still wiggling when they went into the fryer. I didn't get a picture of the fried shrimp head (it was crunchy and not bad), but here's one of the pieces of fish tempura:

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Maisen

This Tokyo restaurant serves nothing but tonkatsu -- fried pork cutlets. These were nothing like heavy, greasy American pork chops; they made from a special Chinese "red pig," cut thin and breaded with panko breadcrumbs. This is Japanese comfort food, and so delicious. It's served with a homemade sauce that tasted a little like Peter Luger sauce

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Jojoen

This was a yakiniku -- Korean barbecue -- place on the 54th floor of one of the tallest buildings in the city. The view was amazing:

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We started with some raw beef and kimchi, then they brought out a big plate of sliced beef, chicken, shrimp and veggies that you grilled yourself on a burner build into your table:

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The really old-school yakiniku places use charcoal grills, which probably tastes better but is kind of impractical on the 54th floor.

New York Grill

We decided to try some Japanese beef at the Tokyo Park Hyatt's steakhouse restaurant. Mrs. Weir had a traditional, well-marbled cut of Kobe beef, and I had some beef from Kanazawa prefucture that was less marbled but recommended by the chef. Both had a really mild, buttery taste (neither was cooked in butter). Unlike an American steakhouse, the Japanese cut their steaks very thin (maybe 3/4 of an inch thick); they were really tender and could be cut with just a fork. Overall, an interesting experience, but I prefer good U.S. sirloin or porterhouse, which just has more beefy flavor. Sorry, no beef pics from here, but here's one of the Park Hyatt bar, where Bill Murray met Scarlett J. in Lost in Translation. I had a Suntory here, and it truly was relaxing times.

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Random Noodle Place

This was lunch at a noodle place in a nice mall whose name I forget. Basically, Japanese mall food:

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One other great, tangentially food-related, thing about Tokyo: the beer vending machines lining the streets. When I went back through our Japan pictures, I realized that I was holding a brew in literally every picture Mrs. Weir took of me in Tokyo.

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Next I'll post a few pics of our food experience in Kyoto, where we had a chance to try a multi-course kaiseki feast at a traditional Japanese inn.

BretWeir 10-04-2007 10:00 PM

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You got it.

M2d 10-04-2007 11:12 PM

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I walked into the one on Takeshita dori intending to grab a coffee. I looked up and saw a big ad for a "McPork". had to have one. since i was at McD's, I decided to try the fries to see if they were the same as back home (they were). McPork was ok-kind of like the sausage from the breakfast menu, but not as spiced. if I could do it again, i'd have tried the fliet-o-shrimp, but I saw it too late and never got the chance to order one later. that actually looked like it had potential.


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