NL25 AK
 

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

Hero (SB): $24.75
BB: $50.25
UTG: $69.45
MP: $22.55
CO: $7.90
BTN: $20.75

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 Players)
4 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1.00</font>, BB calls $0.75

Flop: ($2) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $1.50</font>, <font color="red">BB raises all-in to $49.25</font>, Hero ...

No reads on Villain. Fold in this spot?

Re: NL25 AK
 

With no reads I fold here but I am unhappy about it. TPTK and drawing to the nuts is tough to lay down but I think this is an easy fold.

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instacall for me. tptk with a redraw to the nuts against a ridiculous line. all day baby.

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I call this every time. It's worth the rest of my stack just to see what the hell he has lol. You do have outs if he has a real hand.

Re: NL25 AK
 

lol instacall

are u kidding me.

Re: NL25 AK
 

Call. There is no hand against which you're drawing to worse than seven outs, and the hands that really kill you - better flushes, sets - seem pretty unlikely. There's a strong chance he does this with a combo draw of his own, which you are obviously putting a serious hurt on.

Re: NL25 AK
 

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lol instacall

are u kidding me.

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Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

28,710 games 0.062 secs 463,064 games/sec

Board: Ah 3h Jh
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 58.262% 51.46% 06.80% 14774 1953.00 { AcKh }
Hand 1: 41.738% 34.94% 06.80% 10030 1953.00 { AA, JJ, 33, AJs+, 8h7h, 8h6h, AJo+ }

Re: NL25 AK
 

lol at pokerstoving all hands that beat us without considering opponents actual range given preflop and flop line.

Re: NL25 AK
 

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lol at pokerstoving all hands that beat us without considering opponents actual range given preflop and flop line.

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wait...were u laughing at the instacall comments or agreeing? I thought you were laughing saying its a bad idea. Thats why I stoved all hands that beat us and a few others in his range. rofl.

Re: NL25 AK
 

don't fold this ever. He's flopped the flush rarely in these situations and more often than not he is trying to protect his hand.

He might also have a hand like yourse - Ax x= h

call all day and night

Re: NL25 AK
 

callcallcallcall

Re: NL25 AK
 

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callcallcallcall

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Yesyesyesyes. I made it.

Re: NL25 AK
 

I'd call. TPTK. Nut flush draw.

Re: NL25 AK
 

Snap-call.

Re: NL25 AK
 

Wow this thread was a real eye opener for me. Is there no one else that thinks this could be a marginal fold?

Maybe I am too tight.

Re: NL25 AK
 

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Wow this thread was a real eye opener for me. Is there no one else that thinks this could be a marginal fold?

Maybe I am too tight.

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Yes, I think you're too tight. TPTK + drawing to the nut flush + villains line doesn't look like he's got QJh + you've got outs to improve + villains possible range.

If you factor all of that in it's too tight to fold.

Re: NL25 AK
 

i think he has a set or better, but i call here everytime because when you draw out at him you can yell at him for making a ridonkulous bet and thank him for teh monies.

Re: NL25 AK
 

I can see what you are saying and somewhat agree. I just find that at the micros you are up against 2 suited cards a lot and behind. All this dialogue really helps. I just got PT a little over 6 weeks ago and have a little over 5k hands and am trying to go from a marginally winning player at the micros to a consistent winner. I am only at 6ptbb/100 overall. Maybe the leak I am looking for is being too passive, however PT rates me as loose-agressive-agressive. Go figure.

Re: NL25 AK
 

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i think he has a set or better, but i call here everytime because when you draw out at him you can yell at him for making a ridonkulous bet and thank him for teh monies.

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LMAO

Re: NL25 AK
 

*grunch*

I fold here are disgusting as it is. Yeah you might be getting bluffed on a draw heavy board, but most likely he has something. AJ, 33 maybe JJ / AA are possibilities. We'd assume that a solid player would do that to protect his hand, rather then a maniac. Against those hands we haven't got the pot odds to call for drawing to the flush.

About the only hand that might do this is AQh, but you're pretty much behind his range for doing this at the odds he is laying.

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*grunch*

I fold here are disgusting as it is. Yeah you might be getting bluffed on a draw heavy board, but most likely he has something. AJ, 33 maybe JJ / AA are possibilities. We'd assume that a solid player would do that to protect his hand, rather then a maniac. Against those hands we haven't got the pot odds to call for drawing to the flush.

About the only hand that might do this is AQh, but you're pretty much behind his range for doing this at the odds he is laying.

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Is BB flat calling PF with AA - JJ? I don't think AA, KK, QQ, JJ are in villains range unless he's some super tricky player or super passive player.