10-20 gross turn spot
 

Player seems decent never seen him before, but he seems to be agressive and good. Should I be checkraising QQ ai everytime here or is this a turn you fold without the Q of spades.


PokerStars Game #12384690505: Hold'em No Limit ($10/$20) - 2007/10/01 - 20:47:02 (ET)
Table 'Handahl II' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: EmpireMaker2 ($2551 in chips)
Seat 2: Mr. Larry M ($2185 in chips)
Seat 4: J_soldier ($670 in chips)
Seat 5: Shankar825 ($4270 in chips)
Seat 6: LittleZen ($380 in chips)
LittleZen: posts small blind $10
EmpireMaker2: posts big blind $20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to EmpireMaker2 [Qd Qh]
Mr. Larry M: folds
J_soldier: folds
Shankar825: raises $40 to $60
kitty97 has returned
LittleZen: folds
EmpireMaker2: raises $160 to $220
Shankar825: calls $160
*** FLOP *** [4h Ts 5s]
EmpireMaker2: bets $355
Shankar825: calls $355
*** TURN *** [4h Ts 5s] [6s]
EmpireMaker2: checks
Shankar825: bets $800

Re: 10-20 gross turn spot
 

easy shove

i went to high school w this kid - he won a WSOP event and is just an insane lag spewtard now in cash games

Re: 10-20 gross turn spot
 

i would get it in, he's more likely to have the As than a flush imo

Re: 10-20 gross turn spot
 

[ QUOTE ]
easy shove

i went to high school w this kid - he won a WSOP event and is just an insane lag spewtard now in cash games

[/ QUOTE ]

Re: 10-20 gross turn spot
 

hes bad
dont fold

Re: 10-20 gross turn spot
 

http://gallery.pokerpages.com/galler...3/IRG_9012.jpg

Re: 10-20 gross turn spot
 

oh that's him? lol
good to know, ty guys

Re: 10-20 gross turn spot
 

Anyone else prefer bet/call to check/shove? Don't fold in any case.

Re: 10-20 gross turn spot
 

Sidenote:

Against a spewtard does anyone like a shove instead of a C/R on this turn to make your hand look like a desperate AK/AQ with a big spade as well as protect from, and put pressure on: 77, 88, 99, JJ with a spade?

EDIT: Just saw that you were deeper than 100bbs, thus I agree with the post directly above mine about bet/call AI instead of open-shoving... make sure to leave behind enough of your stack so that he thinks he still has FE tho...

Re: 10-20 gross turn spot
 

what is the best line given that em2 didn't know who he is and that he's a spewtard?

Re: 10-20 gross turn spot
 

hes from my hometown. fun to hear about the kid 'pro' who won the world series from 98% of the idiots who talk about him.

Re: 10-20 gross turn spot
 

lol played with this guy at borgata but had no idea who he was, he would constantly make the craziest bluffs and show, and every time I think everyone was thinking "ok this time he HAS to have it," but it just never ended.

Anyway moral of the story is you should shove

Re: 10-20 gross turn spot
 

check shove

Re: 10-20 gross turn spot
 

against a lagtard i really prefer bet/callshove

Re: 10-20 gross turn spot
 

I think u should check flop, and halfpot turn and river like u usually do.

Re: 10-20 gross turn spot
 

vs a bad lag/spewtard i think betting the turn small, and obv. calling a shove is the best line

Re: 10-20 gross turn spot
 

[ QUOTE ]
http://gallery.pokerpages.com/galler...3/IRG_9012.jpg

[/ QUOTE ]

Haha the WSOP event he won I was railing. Teddy FBI was in it. You can see me when Shankar triples up on the ESPN broadcast. I look like im on a 40 hour coke binge, prolly cuz its true.

Re: 10-20 gross turn spot
 

This kid had like one of the most embarassing hands on ESPN in quite a while. He folded getting 45:1 or something ridiculous on a Hellmuth all in.

Re: 10-20 gross turn spot
 

[ QUOTE ]
This kid had like one of the most embarassing hands on ESPN in quite a while. He folded getting 45:1 or something ridiculous on a Hellmuth all in.

[/ QUOTE ]

and yet you cant beat 200nl i think that is worse.

Re: 10-20 gross turn spot
 

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
This kid had like one of the most embarassing hands on ESPN in quite a while. He folded getting 45:1 or something ridiculous on a Hellmuth all in.

[/ QUOTE ]

and yet you cant beat 200nl i think that is worse.

[/ QUOTE ]

lol burn

Re: 10-20 gross turn spot
 

I can't believe you folded you nit.

Re: 10-20 gross turn spot
 

I like bet/call more if he is coming over the top a lot.

Re: 10-20 gross turn spot
 

[ QUOTE ]
I can't believe you folded you nit.

[/ QUOTE ]

Yes I folded because I had played a whole 20 hands with him, and had no clue how he played in the future I would be folding top pair ever 2 him.

Re: 10-20 gross turn spot
 

[ QUOTE ]
easy shove

i went to high school w this kid and still don't know who the hell he is

[/ QUOTE ]

Did he actually graduate from CHS or leave and go somewhere else?

Re: 10-20 gross turn spot
 

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
This kid had like one of the most embarassing hands on ESPN in quite a while. He folded getting 45:1 or something ridiculous on a Hellmuth all in.

[/ QUOTE ]

and yet you cant beat 200nl i think that is worse.

[/ QUOTE ]

I can say I play way better than the villain in this hand and you have no idea how I play so way to act like a tough guy.