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bicyclekick 10-01-2007 08:26 PM

October general thread
 
Pretty much every other forum has a general thread, so after getting fed up with pokerbob and daryn's [censored] flinging taking over good threads I decided to create this so people can post low-content stuff without cluttering everything else up.

daryn 10-01-2007 09:30 PM

Re: October general thread
 
pokerbob sucks

haha just kidding

tongni 10-01-2007 10:46 PM

Re: October general thread
 
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pokerbob sucks

haha just kidding


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hoppscot22 10-01-2007 10:50 PM

Re: October general thread
 
i miss pokerbob

baronzeus 10-02-2007 12:06 AM

Re: October general thread
 
poker has been so easy the last 7 months, i dont even know what to say anymore. anyone wanna take up PLO or NLHE with tme?

HOWMANY 10-02-2007 12:09 AM

Re: October general thread
 
I'll make you as good as I am at PLO if you make me as good as you are at LHE.

bugstud 10-02-2007 01:11 AM

Re: October general thread
 
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I'll make you as good as I am at PLO if you make me as good as you are at LHE.

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bicyclekick 10-02-2007 03:10 AM

Re: October general thread
 
I'm in for the PLO lesssons. I've played about 4k hands in the last 4 days or it and I suck really bad. Teach me.

allstaryou 10-02-2007 03:24 AM

Re: October general thread
 
bk, i like ur blog

SteveL91 10-02-2007 03:35 AM

Re: October general thread
 
I've played ~120,000 hands of PLO, but no higher than 2/4 for any length of time. I've done ok, but I'm definitely not an expert. I wouldn't mind getting in on this.

tongni 10-02-2007 03:39 AM

Re: October general thread
 
This thread is now the offical "Solicitation for coaching of non-holdem games because LHE is dying" thread.

I'd like someone who plays in the big stud hi games myself.

allstaryou 10-02-2007 04:29 AM

Re: October general thread
 
how much could a winning player make a year playing 5/10 6 max these days? assume 6 hrs./day 5 days/wk. 3 or 4 tabling.

kahntrutahn 10-02-2007 04:36 AM

Re: October general thread
 
You all stole my idea...

I started PLO about 2 weeks ago...

Its obvious that word was leaked...

/end big ego trip

hoppscot22 10-02-2007 05:02 AM

Re: October general thread
 
i played some plo recently... too me it is still boring kinda like nl unless you have 4+ tables going.

as for limit holdem dying... are we sure about that ive seen some pretty sick 50 100 games going in the last 2 weeks.

MrGatorade 10-02-2007 06:03 AM

Re: October general thread
 
Who wants some HU Limit Hold'em LIVE Freezeout action?

-Crazy Mike

eviljeff 10-02-2007 10:33 AM

Re: October general thread
 
more dramabombs plz

kahntrutahn 10-02-2007 03:07 PM

Re: October general thread
 
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i played some plo recently... too me it is still boring kinda like nl unless you have 4+ tables going.


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I think its a "fun" gamblers game despite the fact that I play it for peanuts b/c I suck at it.

HOWMANY 10-02-2007 03:52 PM

Re: October general thread
 
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This thread is now the offical "Solicitation for coaching of non-holdem games because LHE is dying" thread.

I'd like someone who plays in the big stud hi games myself.

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Wait for some of the terrible 30 Stud 8 players to sit 30 Stud Hi on Stars. Profit.

I honestly wish I could play this game more but basically I refuse to play 10/20 because of the terrible ante size + don't want to play 10/20 and the 30 game is always super short with nobody playing blatantly awful.

StrictlyStrategy 10-02-2007 04:05 PM

Re: October general thread
 
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i played some plo recently... too me it is still boring kinda like nl unless you have 4+ tables going.


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I think its a "fun" gamblers game despite the fact that I play it for peanuts b/c I suck at it.

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What is peanuts to you?

I'm gonna tilt so hard at the answer I know it.

TeeJayOrTJ 10-02-2007 07:34 PM

Re: October general thread
 
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You all stole my idea...

I started PLO about 2 weeks ago...

Its obvious that word was leaked...

/end big ego trip

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I made a post about it a month or two ago before that limit-->NL forum was made. Variance is crazy. I am thinking 40-50 BI roll is needed.

stinkypete 10-02-2007 10:52 PM

Re: October general thread
 
[ QUOTE ]
pokerbob sucks

haha just kidding

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wait... does that mean you no longer think he sucks?

bicyclekick 10-02-2007 11:43 PM

Re: October general thread
 
[ QUOTE ]
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pokerbob sucks

haha just kidding

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wait... does that mean you no longer think he sucks?

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i was gonna say that but erased my post haha

yourface 10-03-2007 12:20 AM

Re: October general thread
 
watching schneids latest cr vid, he mentions that Ian Johns (sp?) is going to be making some vids. apparently a guy that plays lhe with a more passive style. is that baronzeus?

bicyclekick 10-03-2007 12:22 AM

Re: October general thread
 
no, his name is ian j here on the forums. Ian is super good at poker. I attribute a lot of my latest success to that guy. Schneider I suppose too, but I hate publicly giving him any credit :P

yourface 10-03-2007 12:29 AM

Re: October general thread
 
ahh cool
lately I've been experimenting with passive play with mediocre hands, mostly OOP in unraised pots and IP in reraised pots without the initiative

looking forward to the vids

Adebisi 10-03-2007 01:40 AM

Re: October general thread
 
Is David Benyamine really good at HU limit holdem? I've seen him sitting alone at 1k/2k quite a bit lately (sometimes for hours at a time) and always think, WTF?

I know these stakes are beyond the bankroll of all but a very few players, but I would think people would be jumping over eachother to get a piece of someone playing this guy heads up.

What gives?

nycballer 10-03-2007 02:01 AM

Re: October general thread
 
[ QUOTE ]
Who wants some HU Limit Hold'em LIVE Freezeout action?

-Crazy Mike

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will you be at foxwoods for the wpt in november? if so i will be there and will play you, what kind of stakes are u looking for, i'd do something like 50/100 or 100/200 for 50 BBs

Enon 10-03-2007 04:18 AM

Re: October general thread
 
Still can't get over the crazy swings in the stars 1/2 but I'm trying to persevere.

MattSuspect 10-03-2007 05:00 AM

Re: October general thread
 
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no, his name is ian j here on the forums. Ian is super good at poker. I attribute a lot of my latest success to that guy. Schneider I suppose too, but I hate publicly giving him any credit :P

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He has a fancy bracelet too.

hoppscot22 10-03-2007 06:22 AM

Re: October general thread
 
ranting post

this session really pissed me off because i should have won so much money but found myself blowing pot after pot after pot. there were others, but this was just a frustrating session because it was short and everytime i felt like i was going to go on a huge run and win a ton something happened like the following, 3 handed they were both playing so bad... ughhhhhh

Full Tilt Poker 30/60 Hold'em (3 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

Preflop: Hero is BB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (4 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, SB calls.

Turn: (7 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, SB calls.

River: (13 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 15 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
SB has Jh 8d (full house, eights full of jacks).
Hero has 6s 7h (straight, nine high).
Outcome: SB wins 15 BB. </font>


Full Tilt Poker 30/60 Hold'em (3 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls.

Flop: (7 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, Button calls.

Turn: (6.50 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, Hero calls.

River: (10.50 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 12.50 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has Jh Jc (one pair, jacks).
Button has 5d 6d (two pair, sixes and fives).
Outcome: Button wins 12.50 BB. </font>



Full Tilt Poker 30/60 Hold'em (6 handed)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls.

Flop: (10 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls, CO calls.

Turn: (6.50 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls, CO folds.

River: (8.50 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 12.50 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
SB has Th Qc (straight, ace high).
Hero has As Tc (two pair, aces and fours).
Outcome: SB wins 12.50 BB. </font>


Full Tilt Poker 30/60 Hold'em (3 handed)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (4 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (5 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (7 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 9 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
SB has Qc 4d (two pair, queens and fours).
Hero has 6d As (high card, ace).
Outcome: SB wins 9 BB. </font>

baronzeus 10-03-2007 07:03 AM

Re: October general thread
 
i have already played 4700 hands this month in the first two days. sick, right? 12 hrs,mostly at 30/60 and 50/100, +2.9BB/100, +10,505. Month looking good so far [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

hoppscot22 10-03-2007 07:09 AM

Re: October general thread
 
fricken baronzeus... im at 9000 hands (some nl you can play a lot of nl hands 8 tabling), +8k, teach me?

btw... what did you have this hand?

*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to LIVELETDIE22 [Qs 6s]
FREDRIK312 - Folds
bz - Raises $75 to $100
LIVELETDIE22 - Calls $50
*** FLOP *** [Kd 2d Qh]
bz - Bets $50
LIVELETDIE22 - Calls $50
*** TURN *** [Kd 2d Qh] [Jc]
bz - Bets $100
LIVELETDIE22 - Calls $100
*** RIVER *** [Kd 2d Qh Jc] [8h]
bz - Checks
LIVELETDIE22 - Bets $100
bz - Raises $200 to $200

DcifrThs 10-03-2007 10:48 AM

Re: October general thread
 
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fricken baronzeus... im at 9000 hands (some nl you can play a lot of nl hands 8 tabling), +8k, teach me?

btw... what did you have this hand?

*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to LIVELETDIE22 [Qs 6s]
FREDRIK312 - Folds
bz - Raises $75 to $100
LIVELETDIE22 - Calls $50
*** FLOP *** [Kd 2d Qh]
bz - Bets $50
LIVELETDIE22 - Calls $50
*** TURN *** [Kd 2d Qh] [Jc]
bz - Bets $100
LIVELETDIE22 - Calls $100
*** RIVER *** [Kd 2d Qh Jc] [8h]
bz - Checks
LIVELETDIE22 - Bets $100
bz - Raises $200 to $200

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i raise the flop there. makes late street play vs. bz a bit easier i think (unless of course if you know he'll give up quick to early aggression and will put in bets with far weaker hands later and isn't too tricky...i don't think that describes bz though lol)

i don't think bz would go into this without a strong read as a bluff. it would make sense though w/ a low pair type hand since he can now rep a far large hand than 66 and you appear to have some pair, possibly K/Q weak kicker or JT type hand that picked up a pair. he could now expect to fold out the weak kicker J/Q/K since at this point they are essencially the same hand (nice c'r here for bz w/ KT given your play).

additionally, he could have a diamond draw or just absolute air.

but those are his bluff hands in the extreme.

more realistically it looks like K8/Q8/AT/KQ/KJ/anyset/T9dd.

if i hadn't played w/ bz a ton before and i were you i'd call this c'r for half value and half info. if he is capable of this with air i have to know (similarly if he is capable of c'r 66 to fold out a Q/J then i also have to know). if i pay off one of the good hands here then so be it. getting 8:1 on the call i don't mind so much.

if i had to guess i'd say bz had K8/Q8/J8 for the 2pair.

EDIT: just to clarify, the raise looks exactly like he wants you to pay off with what you very likely have and a 3 bet here is getting called every time b/c there is basically nothing (other than 88 which prob raises by now) that the 8 gives you that can have to 3 bet here. so i think a fold here makes sense if you play w/ him. on a first hand or without any other info i'd lean towards a call though.

Barron

kahntrutahn 10-03-2007 01:33 PM

Re: October general thread
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
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i played some plo recently... too me it is still boring kinda like nl unless you have 4+ tables going.


[/ QUOTE ]


I think its a "fun" gamblers game despite the fact that I play it for peanuts b/c I suck at it.

[/ QUOTE ]

What is peanuts to you?

I'm gonna tilt so hard at the answer I know it.

[/ QUOTE ]

Doubtful... .5/1 - 2/4

daryn 10-03-2007 02:40 PM

Re: October general thread
 
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pokerbob sucks

haha just kidding

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wait... does that mean you no longer think he sucks?

[/ QUOTE ]

i was gonna say that but erased my post haha

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truthfully i don't really hate pokerbob, i am a nice guy in real life but i do hate the way he posts and think he is in general annoying and often misunderstands easy concepts.

dangerfish 10-03-2007 04:45 PM

Re: October general thread
 
Good that you can end with saying a few nice things about him.

haha just kidding

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wait... does that mean you no longer think he sucks?

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i was gonna say that but erased my post haha

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truthfully i don't really hate pokerbob, i am a nice guy in real life but i do hate the way he posts and think he is in general annoying and often misunderstands easy concepts.

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Enon 10-03-2007 04:49 PM

Re: October general thread
 
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i have already played 4700 hands this month in the first two days. sick, right? 12 hrs,mostly at 30/60 and 50/100, +2.9BB/100, +10,505. Month looking good so far [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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So all that open limping is working out for you? Maybe you are onto something.

hoppscot22 10-03-2007 04:57 PM

Re: October general thread
 
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i have already played 4700 hands this month in the first two days. sick, right? 12 hrs,mostly at 30/60 and 50/100, +2.9BB/100, +10,505. Month looking good so far [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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So all that open limping is working out for you? Maybe you are onto something.

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i also started noticing this in a 3 handed game he was limping the button, first time i thought he misclicked then it continued... i was kinda confused

tmfs 10-03-2007 05:25 PM

Re: October general thread
 
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Still can't get over the crazy swings in the stars 1/2 but I'm trying to persevere.

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This is easy to fix play some 2/4, then the swings at 1/2 don't seem so bad.

kahntrutahn 10-03-2007 05:58 PM

Re: October general thread
 
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Still can't get over the crazy swings in the stars 1/2 but I'm trying to persevere.

[/ QUOTE ]

This is easy to fix play some 2/4, then the swings at 1/2 don't seem so bad.

[/ QUOTE ]

QFMFT


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