vB Testing
 

Any mod can come over and begin testing the functionality of the vB install.

http://vb.twoplustwo.com

There are a couple things you should keep in mind. First, the issue of skins and style is mostly being dealt with last, although Kiera is currently working on a couple skins that approximate popular UBB styles. For now please focus on how the software is working. The sidebar isn't currrent, but that's a minor thing that will be addressed soon enough. There are going to be a couple other small configuration issues you'll notice. Don't assume anything is final.

For today I'd like it if you guys focused mostly on things from a user perspective than anything involving mod powers. It's also probably safe to disregard the few old testing threads that exist in there and start new discussions.

Finally, as the info used for this install is several months old, a few of you may not be able to sign in and view the test forum immediately. The best way to handle that is to contact me privately.


*edit*

Separate login and display names don't exist in vB, so you'll need to use your display name to sign in. I had already planned to announce this to all users in advance of the switch.

Re: vB Testing
 

Ryan,

What sort of feedback are you going for here?

Quote tags don't work and polls don't appear. Obviously these things will be fixed so I'm dumb to even bring them up.

Also, I hope the text column will be much wider and the sidebar much smaller. I'm guessing that's what you're going for.

I could start a thread in the vB test forum about this but as a noob I thought someone else should do it.

Also, it's good to see there's no Travel forum. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

Re: vB Testing
 

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What sort of feedback are you going for here?

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Any you want to give.


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Quote tags don't work and polls don't appear.

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Are you referring to imported posts? Anything that comes over from UBB won't be perfect. In all honestly I'd prefer to import nothing but accounts, but that's not going to be what people want.


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Also, I hope the text column will be much wider and the sidebar much smaller.

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Eh? The width probably won't be too far from what it is now once the ads are given final placement and such. It was actually narrowed a bit the other day when I noticed lots of white space. [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img] The sidebar should also be pushed back to the left. But again anything involving the current look is a subject best left for later when that's the focus.

Re: vB Testing
 

I don't suppose it's possible to put names, avatars, post count, etc. in a column on the left as opposed to this big horizontal bar, is it? I'm not bugged by this solely because I hate change and because I want it to be the old way, but I think that the big horizontal delimiter between posts hinders reading and the flow of the thread.

Re: vB Testing
 

That's a style issue best left for later or possibly even the vB devs.

I'm not sure how feasible that would be, but it's something I've been thinking about too. It would involve custom templates, which can start to get tricky when trying to keep the software updated.

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Eh? The width probably won't be too far from what it is now once the ads are given final placement and such. It was actually narrowed a bit the other day when I noticed lots of white space. The sidebar should also be pushed back to the left. But again anything involving the current look is a subject best left for later when that's the focus.


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I completely agree with tuq. The margins are HUGE! Is this a screen resolution (1600x1200) issue?

http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/8...shotpm7.th.gif
{Thumbnail so it doesn't stretch everyone's page)

Re: vB Testing
 

Ive noticed something which may or may not be relevant.

In the strat forums, when a hand history is posted in its converted format, the HTML tags which control the images ie [ img ] and [ /img ] and fonts and such are now (I assume) obsolete, meaning that instead of an image of a card or whatever, you just get code.

http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/1083/sdfqr4.jpg


This is going to be a huge problem if not rectified as the people who make the HH converters are going to have to completely recode their programs, and all HH posted are going to be corrupt. I am pretty sure that the vB developers can organise a way around this but just thought I would point this out if you hadn't noticed already.

Re: vB Testing
 

Just some quick thoughts.

I like the bigger message box for typing out posts.

While most of us forum pros probably type out the UBB code/smilies, I think it's helpful for most posters that the icons are below the text box.

Mods are still going to be about to use HTML, right?

I'll try to give it another look later.

Re: vB Testing
 

I should clarify this a bit more.

Poke around and see what comes to mind. I'd also like to see most of this discussion take place over there to keep it more or less in one place.

Those who were around for the UBB 7 stuff should note that things will be a bit different here. We actually have much less to discuss beforehand, as last time we were dealing with a total reorganization and new sidebar too. While vB does provide substantially more features, there's nothing that says we need to have every specific ironed out before going forward, like whether a minor setting should 9 or 10.

Re: vB Testing
 

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The margins are HUGE! Is this a screen resolution (1600x1200) issue?

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[img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

I mean this in the nicest way possible...

As I said, anything related to how it looks should come later. If you comment about any of that now you're probably just wasting your time anyway because you aren't viewing what we intend. Having said that a few times now, I'm probably not going to address it again until we're there.

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[img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

I mean this in the nicest way possible...

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OMG WHY ARE YOU FLAMING US?!!?!

Anyway, here's some comments:

- clicking on the "last post by" link no longer takes you to the last post, it takes you to that user's profile. There are a lot of threads I don't want to show up as marked read so I just click on that last post and scroll up, sort of like dipping my toe in the pool. If the thread is not of interest to me, then I don't have to deal with it being marked read and drawing my attention all the time. I may be the only one who does this though.

- it would be nice to have emoticons and URL/image stuff in quick reply, but if that is considered too much clutter then never mind.

- the most recent thread in the test forum is StevieG posting about the ability for all users to embed Youtube videos. I think this would be a terrible idea, particularly if they auto-launch (iron had a self-launching Youtube video embedded in one of these threads that freaked me out). That and the ability to change font size/marquee etc., I hope all that stuff is disabled for regular users (hell, or everyone, but mods seem to use it sparingly and appropriately).

Hopefully that is more of what you are looking for.

Re: vB Testing
 

ryan,

I 2nd entertainme in talking about how HH will work. If you have an idea I think it would be a good idea to PM tickner (he does the lego converter)

That said, I know you dont want look stuff, but avatars, locations and titles are needed.

Also, the who the thread is by needs to be WAY more visable.

Something I just noticed too was that when you click on a users name to send them a PM (or edit them) the option to visit their homepage comes up. Might wanna disable that.

Re: vB Testing
 

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avatars, locations and titles are needed.

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vB has all three? Current avatars and titles won't carry over, though.

Also, since this discussion really should be taking place over there, I'm going to lock and sticky this thread.

Re: vB Testing
 

I can't say I'm a big fan of having to click on a button in someone's post in order to activate quick reply. I'd much rather just have quick reply assume I'm responding to the last post, just like it does now.

Re: vB Testing
 

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I don't suppose it's possible to put names, avatars, post count, etc. in a column on the left as opposed to this big horizontal bar, is it?

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I was being stupid. It does involve a different template but mercifully it's been included. Difference between postbit and postbit legacy. Check it out now. It's almost looking 2+2ish.

Re: vB Testing
 

This would be a good time for anyone else who wants to comment on the current state of vB to give it a look. There have been some changes since this thread was posted.