200NL: Middle set vs monkey 150BB deep on UGLY board
 

Monkey is 63/6/2.7 and has played tricky. Obviously a huge aggrotard postflop, but seriously has shown up with some crazy hands...

Input on all streets appreciated (including bet sizes)....

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $198.00
BB: $654.55
UTG: $196.95
SFC (MP): $314.40
CO: $231.95
BTN: $258.65

Preflop: SFC is dealt J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">SFC raises to $8.00</font>, 3 folds, BB calls $6.00

Flop: ($17) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $17.00</font>, <font color="red">SFC raises to $48.00</font>, BB calls $31.00

Turn: ($113) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">SFC bets $68.00</font>, BB calls $68.00

River: ($249) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, SFC wants to valuebet, but....


edited to fix title, sorry.

Re: 200NL: Middle set vs monkey 300BB deep on UGLY board
 

you aren't that deep.

raise flop harder.

bet turn harder.

value bet his river please.

Re: 200NL: Middle set vs monkey 300BB deep on UGLY board
 

Yeah, in retrospect, I HATE my flop raise size.

But the diamond on the turn locked to me, tbh...

Re: 200NL: Middle set vs monkey 300BB deep on UGLY board
 

he has kx/whatever so much more than diamonds. i guess qt/diamonds are in the equation as well, but meh.

Re: 200NL: Middle set vs monkey 300BB deep on UGLY board
 

shrug, flops fine, turn's meeeeeehhh, but whatever, river's an easy shove

Re: 200NL: Middle set vs monkey 300BB deep on UGLY board
 

If we get c/r'd on turn, we call and fill up on river right?

Re: 200NL: Middle set vs monkey 300BB deep on UGLY board
 

... we shove and say thank you for the money sir

Re: 200NL: Middle set vs monkey 300BB deep on UGLY board
 

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... we shove and say thank you for the money sir

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I figured he'd c/r enough to put me all in, but yeah, same same....

Re: 200NL: Middle set vs monkey 300BB deep on UGLY board
 

I'm confused...how is this an UGLY board? Shove river followed by fist pump

-edit I just the flush hit...still shove the river tho

Re: 200NL: Middle set vs monkey 300BB deep on UGLY board
 

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you aren't that deep.

raise flop harder.

bet turn harder.

value bet his river please.

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!!!!!!!

Re: 200NL: Middle set vs monkey 300BB deep on UGLY board
 

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he has kx/whatever so much more than diamonds. i guess qt/diamonds are in the equation as well, but meh.

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Maybe so but I think 2 diamonds are well and truly in villains range here. Not enough of the time to stop me getting it in tho.

Re: 200NL: Middle set vs monkey 300BB deep on UGLY board
 

Basically the fact that he can possibly have diamonds here isn't enough reason not to value bet. His calling range is so much wider than that.

He obviously sucks, push river now plz

Re: 200NL: Middle set vs monkey 300BB deep on UGLY board
 

How much should he reraise to on the flop, and how much should he bet on the turn if villain checks? If villain just open shoves turn is he still calling?

Re: 200NL: Middle set vs monkey 150BB deep on UGLY board
 

valuebet because the dude is a fish and his calling range includes many Kx hands here, which are more likely than flush draws

Re: 200NL: Middle set vs monkey 150BB deep on UGLY board
 

against a guy with these stats, i don't hate the flop bet sizing, but i'm guessing he'd probably call a bit more with anything with which he potdonks it.

just keep betting and be happy if he assists, regardless of what peels

Re: 200NL: Middle set vs monkey 150BB deep on UGLY board
 

raise more on the flop since you're deep
bet more on the turn so we can shove the river without it being an overbet.

Re: 200NL: Middle set vs monkey 150BB deep on UGLY board
 

Noted fellas, thanks. I think sometimes I see monsters under the bed too often. Maybe this is just what the doctor ordered to cure that.


Thanks for the feedback fellas.

Re: 200NL: Middle set vs monkey 150BB deep on UGLY board
 

Results then?

Re: 200NL: Middle set vs monkey 150BB deep on UGLY board
 

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Results then?

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I checked behind, God killed a kitten, and he showed AKo and MHIG, but I felt dirty [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

Re: 200NL: Middle set vs monkey 150BB deep on UGLY board
 

Are we willing to continue on turn with AKo if they CR?