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ShowUthExit 09-29-2007 02:40 AM

fold QQ pre?
 
shover running 14/6.5

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $236.60
UTG+1: $244.05
CO: $192
Hero: $224.05
SB: $581.80
BB: $200

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises to $8</font>, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to $25</font>, Hero calls, 2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises all-in $244.05</font>, CO folds, Hero ?

rsxpunk 09-29-2007 02:46 AM

Re: fold QQ pre?
 
how many hands are the stats over? If its a good enough sample he's pretty much doing this with AA or KK only, maybe AK sometimes but probably not. gf.

Chicago Twister 09-29-2007 02:47 AM

Re: fold QQ pre?
 
i might not even call the first time, definitely not the 2nd

rsxpunk 09-29-2007 02:48 AM

Re: fold QQ pre?
 
the CO's 3bet range has got to be wide enough to not even think about folding imo.

ShowUthExit 09-29-2007 02:48 AM

Re: fold QQ pre?
 
sry, over 123 hands only

ASPoker8 09-29-2007 02:49 AM

Re: fold QQ pre?
 
played fine imo

AngryJohnny 09-29-2007 02:51 AM

Re: fold QQ pre?
 
Looks like AK trying to squeeze, why would AA or KK try to blast everyone out of the pot? I call and expect to see AK majority of the time with $58 in the pot I think it's + EV

primate 09-29-2007 03:26 AM

Re: fold QQ pre?
 
with those stats your a big dog imo. Any history? Fold IMO.

FishSticks 09-29-2007 03:31 AM

Re: fold QQ pre?
 
A 14/7 will just close the betting and take a flop here with AK very often IMO. I think this is a good fold.

FishSticks 09-29-2007 03:32 AM

Re: fold QQ pre?
 

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 71.476% 68.45% 03.02% 19925974 879980.00 { QQ+, AKs }
Hand 1: 28.524% 25.50% 03.02% 7423234 879980.00 { QdQh }

ManChild 09-29-2007 03:33 AM

Re: fold QQ pre?
 
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A 14/7 will just close the betting and take a flop here with AK very often IMO. I think this is a good fold.

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yeah

angryjohnny, that logic definitely causes you to lose money if you are playing nl200

primate 09-29-2007 03:54 AM

Re: fold QQ pre?
 
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A 14/7 will just close the betting and take a flop here with AK very often IMO. I think this is a good fold.

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yeah

angryjohnny, that logic definitely causes you to lose money if you are playing nl200

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Wait up here. Hero will be CALLING an all in bet. Not pushing with some FE. FE is the difference here. You don't have FE and against villains range, at best you are a 5050. This is a clear fold unless there is history with villain in these spots.

ikestoys 09-29-2007 04:22 AM

Re: fold QQ pre?
 
pretty ez fold given villain

kindju 09-29-2007 11:07 AM

Re: fold QQ pre?
 
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equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 71.476% 68.45% 03.02% 19925974 879980.00 { QQ+, AKs }
Hand 1: 28.524% 25.50% 03.02% 7423234 879980.00 { QdQh }

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Hence the instafold.

Unknown Soldier 09-29-2007 11:29 AM

Re: fold QQ pre?
 
whats co like? because if he isnt retarded. and knows utg+1 image this should be a fold the 1st time round too.

Hince 09-29-2007 12:48 PM

Re: fold QQ pre?
 
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whats co like? because if he isnt retarded. and knows utg+1 image this should be a fold the 1st time round too.

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