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Anybody know if there is any prelimminary events for fallsview? there is nothing about it on the site

Anybody going? ANybody know how high they spread nl games during the events

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They didn't have any last year, just the WPT events. Last year the also ran a 2nd WPT event, but it was not a prelim. Don't expect any large MTTs outside the main event.

They will spread NL games as high as they have players. Last year 25/50nl ran around the clock, and I believe they ran higher games when Eli and Daniel were playing. I'd expect a good selection of games, but get there early. Last year getting in a game at 8pm would take 3-4 hours.

I'll be there.

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Thayer told me there's a $2.5k event 4 days before the WPT at the same casino, but I haven't been able to find information on it.

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Last year the also ran a 2nd WPT event, but it was not a prelim. Don't expect any large MTTs outside the main event

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This was the event last year...

I think it was a quasi-preliminary event, starting before the main but ending after. Did the WPT film it? I didn't think so...anyway, glad to be of no help.

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I believe they filmed that event to air on Canadian TV.

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I'm pretty sure that $2500 event is not happening this year.

Ryan

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I email fallsview to ask, they told me that there will just be the 10k WPT this year, no smaller tournies going on during the week besides sats.

I live nearby, gonna try to sat in. if not I will probably be around most of the week anyways

info:

http://www.fallsviewcasinoresort.com/Def...Description+WPT

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Considering trying a satellite or two for the $10k tourney at Fallsview.

I'm not experienced with large tourneys like this so I was wondering if anyone could comment on a few questions I have.

There's a $90 satellite, 1 table. Winner gets entry into $640 satellite (2 tables, winner of that gets entry into main event, 2nd gets entry into another higher satellite, 3rd gets re-entry into $640).

My question involves the blind structure in the $90. You start with $1000, blinds go up every 10 minutes. So after ten minutes, you're already at 50-100 = 10 BBs. This seems ridiculous to me; do most satellites function like this? Live hands seem to take 2-3 minutes so is there really any point in trying to play poker instead of just pushing with decent hands and hoping to get lucky?

Any insight is appreciated.

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Just booked the suite in the Hilton.

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Considering trying a satellite or two for the $10k tourney at Fallsview.

I'm not experienced with large tourneys like this so I was wondering if anyone could comment on a few questions I have.

There's a $90 satellite, 1 table. Winner gets entry into $640 satellite (2 tables, winner of that gets entry into main event, 2nd gets entry into another higher satellite, 3rd gets re-entry into $640).

My question involves the blind structure in the $90. You start with $1000, blinds go up every 10 minutes. So after ten minutes, you're already at 50-100 = 10 BBs. This seems ridiculous to me; do most satellites function like this? Live hands seem to take 2-3 minutes so is there really any point in trying to play poker instead of just pushing with decent hands and hoping to get lucky?

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I've played the 90s, the 160s and the 1200s at Fallsview for the wpt event.

The competition is ridiculously soft, for the most part, so that's something to note to start. The 90s and 160s are designed to be over in a couple hours and ARE crapshoots, but definitely with a little bit of an edge towards the better players. The same guys consistently play them all day (grinders just building their roll) and there's so many repeat winners beating up on tourists that there's a small market for the 1200s and 10k seats, already.

If you want a slow structure, you're going to have to jump straight to the 1200s or the step2 for the 90s, atleast.

They run the big tournament only on saturdays for now, but come 1 week before the event I hear they run the 1200s pretty much 24/7 until it begins.

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If you win the satellite, do you get an actual entry ticket, or 10k in cash?

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If i'm flying into Buffalo, then driving to Niagra Falls, do i need a passport to cross the border? I've heard that a Drivers License and B.C. will be sufficient.

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I am pretty sure Drivers License will be sufficient until Jan 08.

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Sweet, thanks. I'll take my birth Certificate just in case

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It would be great to see a strong showing at this year's North American Poker Championship at Fallsview Casino Resort in Niagara Falls on October 26th.

There are only 2 days left to play Step 1 $90 satellites (Oct 15 + 16)!
There are only 2 days left to play Step A $160 satellites (Oct 17 +18)!
There is only 1 day left to play the Step 2 $640 satellites (Oct 19)!

$1200 single table SNG satellites will run round-the-clock from Oct 20 till the start of the NAPC on Oct 26.

We are on pace to seat 250-300 players just through our satellites alone. This looks like it will be a popular event on this season's World Poker Tour.


So..... who's playing? Who's railing?

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From the WPT Website:

CROSSING THE BORDER

About 30 million visitors cross the border every year from the United States into Canada and an additional 18 million visitors arrive by boat or airplane from the USA and every other nation on earth. Visit the Canada Customs website for more information to make the crossing easier.

If you are a citizen of the United States, you do need a passport to enter Canada. You should also carry proof of your citizenship, such as a birth certificate, certificate of citizenship or naturalization, as well as a photo ID. If you are a permanent resident of the U.S., you should bring your Permanent Resident Card (i.e. green card) with you.

U.S. citizens returning to the U.S. from Canada are currently exempt from passport requirements.

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If you win the satellite, do you get an actual entry ticket, or 10k in cash?

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You will recieve a voucher worth $10,300. The voucher does NOT have your name or PAC number on it. Therefore, it is transferable. You may give it away, trade it, sell it, whatever you like. The voucher CANNOT be exchanged for cash with casino. You will need to present a voucher for the 2007 North American Poker Championship, along with valid government issued photo ID (all players must be 19 years of age) and your PAC card (all players MUST be enrolled in the Players Advantage Club)when you register to play.

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Can I buy 2 entry's with the same credit card?

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If i'm flying into Buffalo, then driving to Niagra Falls, do i need a passport to cross the border? I've heard that a Drivers License and B.C. will be sufficient.

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From the WPT Website:

CROSSING THE BORDER

About 30 million visitors cross the border every year from the United States into Canada and an additional 18 million visitors arrive by boat or airplane from the USA and every other nation on earth. Visit the Canada Customs website for more information to make the crossing easier.

If you are a citizen of the United States, you do need a passport to enter Canada. You should also carry proof of your citizenship, such as a birth certificate, certificate of citizenship or naturalization, as well as a photo ID. If you are a permanent resident of the U.S., you should bring your Permanent Resident Card (i.e. green card) with you.

U.S. citizens returning to the U.S. from Canada are currently exempt from passport requirements.

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The homeland security website says that as long as you arent going in by air or sea, you don't need a passport until January of 08.. I really hope this is the case. I'm flying up with only my drivers liscense and birth cert.

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The Seneca Niagara casino (on the U.S. side of the border - only about 2 miles from Fallsview) is holding October Pokerfest at the same time as the Fallsview WPT event. This will consist of:

- $ 330 buyin NLHE on Sat. Oct.27 (I'm playing that)
- $ 550 buyin NLHE on Sun. Oct. 28
- $ 1000 buyin NLHE from Oct. 29 through 31

I really like the Seneca Poker room - it has the feel of a Vegas room.

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I have a question about registration. I sent an email asking them some questions and now I am even more confused.

The email said this

"I am accepting limited pre-registration choice of starting day until tomorrow night, otherwise you need to register on Friday

Regards,

Jason"

The representative on the phone told me that they don't have a limit to how many ppl can play on each day. So why am I not allowed to just show up Sunday morning register pay and play?

Can some enlighten me, because I thought that was fine, but now this email and an unsure WPT rep on the phone is making me think otherwise and this tournament director seems to be the only one to know anything and is difficult to reach.

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Unless you are Jason's list of pre-registration players, you MUST register tomorrow or Friday.

The rep saying "they don't have a limit to hom many ppl can play" is not 100% accurate; every live tournament has a physical limit to the number of players that can play (these limits set by the # of seats, # of tables, # of staff, # of days). There is a limit for each day to keep the days balanced (we cannot have 100 people show up to play on Friday and the 400 people on Sunday).

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Unless you are Jason's list of pre-registration players, you MUST register tomorrow or Friday.

The rep saying "they don't have a limit to hom many ppl can play" is not 100% accurate; every live tournament has a physical limit to the number of players that can play (these limits set by the # of seats, # of tables, # of staff, # of days). There is a limit for each day to keep the days balanced (we cannot have 100 people show up to play on Friday and the 400 people on Sunday).

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So if I show up Sunday Morning at 11 with $10K, what are the odds that I will be able to play?

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Unless you are Jason's list of pre-registration players, you MUST register tomorrow or Friday.

The rep saying "they don't have a limit to hom many ppl can play" is not 100% accurate; every live tournament has a physical limit to the number of players that can play (these limits set by the # of seats, # of tables, # of staff, # of days). There is a limit for each day to keep the days balanced (we cannot have 100 people show up to play on Friday and the 400 people on Sunday).

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So if I show up Sunday Morning at 11 with $10K, what are the odds that I will be able to play?

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So if I show up Sunday Morning at 11 with $10K, what are the odds that I will be able to play?

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Slim to nil

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I am trying to contact the tournament ppl at Fallsview and somehow put my name on the reserve list or something. But most of the ppl on the phone don't really know. Yes it is for 600 ppl, but then some of them say something different.

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Unless you are Jason's list of pre-registration players, you MUST register tomorrow or Friday.

The rep saying "they don't have a limit to hom many ppl can play" is not 100% accurate; every live tournament has a physical limit to the number of players that can play (these limits set by the # of seats, # of tables, # of staff, # of days). There is a limit for each day to keep the days balanced (we cannot have 100 people show up to play on Friday and the 400 people on Sunday).

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So if I show up Sunday Morning at 11 with $10K, what are the odds that I will be able to play?

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Slim to nil

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I appreciate the advanced registration policy, but I don't really get all the rest--even if there is a logistical need to keep the days balanced (why is that?), the aim of the registration process should still be to accommodate the maximum number of interested players, period--that's the beauty of having three starting days to begin with!

I'm just curious and trying to understand the reasons for the policy. Assuming max capacity is 400, and if Friday and Saturday get 200 people each and there is a sudden demand on Sunday for 400 players, why would you want to shut anyone out?

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Last year you were allowed to register on the final Day 1, and Daniel Negreaneau threw a huge fit saying how unfair it was. He basically argued people could see how Day 1a ended up, and then one could deside whether or not it was +EV to play in the tourney.

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Hypothetical situation:

3 day ones with 30 tables playing 9 handed (but able to go 10 if needed).

Play on Day 1a will determine how long to play on Days 1b and 1c as everyone left must combine for Day 2 with 30 tables playing 9 handed AT THE SAME LEVEL.

So.... 7 levels of play on Day 1a means the same for Day 1b and 1c. There must be only 100 people left (MAX) on each day one to seat everyone on Day 2.

If we played with only 150 people on Day 1a, we could be under 100 players in 4 levels. If Day 1b morning 250 people show up to register to play that day we could only play 4 levels and may well have 200 people left (that makes 300 already without playing Day 1c!! Uh oh). Now, Sunday morning another 200 people show up to register and play that day, we only play 4 levels again and there is 150 people left. Now for Day 2 (with 30 tables) there are 450 people to play. What can you do? Make two Day 2s? Maybe... but it would reguire playing loooooong day 3, day 4, day 5 as the Final Table day CANNOT be changed to a different day.

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There HAS to be a cutoff-point in registration to avoid unneccessary problems. With 3 day ones, there must be a balance (somewhat) with Day 1a having more than either other day 1 to be sure we attain correct numbers to combine on day two.

Does any of that make sense???

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Does any of that make sense???

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It makes more sense now, but I don't understand one thing: Are you playing 7 levels on day 1a or only as many as are required to reach 100 players or less?

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Does any of that make sense???

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It makes more sense now, but I don't understand one thing: Are you playing 7 levels on day 1a or only as many as are required to reach 100 players or less?

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We need to have less than 100 players remaining on Day 1a. However long that takes (my guess is 7 levels) we then play that many levels on each of Day 1b and Day 1c. However many players remain after Day 1c will combine and play Day 2 starting at the next level (my guess is level 8). If there is more than 300 people, there might be issues. Balancing the days but having Day 1a slightly fuller makes this less likely to occur and therefore the best way to run things.

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You should play a set amount of time, not until a set amount of players are left.

Make the length however long you think is apropriate to have 1 Day 2.


I hope you can see the huge problem there could be if you played down to x amount each day.

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Does any of that make sense???

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It makes more sense now, but I don't understand one thing: Are you playing 7 levels on day 1a or only as many as are required to reach 100 players or less?

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Pretty sure they are going to try to load Day 1 and fill it up then play as long as it takes to get to X amount of players then replicate the same length in B and C.

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I hope you can see the huge problem there could be if you played down to x amount each day.

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I hope you can see the huge problem there would be if we played a set amount of levels each day and not down to numbers that, when combined on day 2, can actually be seated.

If we said we play 6 levels no matter what each of the three day ones, and that left us with a total of more players than we have seats for Day 2, what would we do then?

Let's say we get last year's numbers, 500 to make it easy. We play 200 on Day 1a, 150 Day 1b, 150 Day 1c. With extra players on Day 1a, it will take longer to get under 100 players remaining (let's say 7 levels). That pretty much assures that by playing 7 levels on each of Day 1b and Day 1c, we should have less than 300 total players remaining to play on Day 2 and everyone starts where they left off, beginning on Level 8.

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I hope you can see the huge problem there could be if you played down to x amount each day.

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I hope you can see the huge problem there would be if we played a set amount of levels each day and not down to numbers that, when combined on day 2, can actually be seated.

If we said we play 6 levels no matter what each of the three day ones, and that left us with a total of more players than we have seats for Day 2, what would we do then?

Let's say we get last year's numbers, 500 to make it easy. We play 200 on Day 1a, 150 Day 1b, 150 Day 1c. With extra players on Day 1a, it will take longer to get under 100 players remaining (let's say 7 levels). That pretty much assures that by playing 7 levels on each of Day 1b and Day 1c, we should have less than 300 total players remaining to play on Day 2 and everyone starts where they left off, beginning on Level 8.

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I think what he is suggesting is to just play a longer day 1. If you play to 400/800, level 8, you will be under 100 every day, and about 2/3s of the field would be eliminated. This would allow any number of players under 250 every day and would remove this silly issue.

We already have 6(8) days as is, might as well allow the field to be as big as possible.

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I just don't like limiting the field to 3 * number of people on Day 1a, nor the possibility of each day playing a different length.

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Anybody know if there is any prelimminary events for fallsview? there is nothing about it on the site

Anybody going? ANybody know how high they spread nl games during the events

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Im heading out the door in an hour or so to play in the tournament. GL to all but not TOO much [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Day 1 is always longer than every other day when there are multiple starting days. Day 1 should be an extra level or two. Just like in the WSOP ME, Day 1 was like 13 hours or something. If they need to make it longer, then go ahead.

I don't see the problem with have more on one starting day as long as on day 2 everyone can be seated.

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Does anyone have any extra cash they could trade for online (any site)?? I'm in Niagara headed to Fallsview right now, if anyone can helpp a brother out, PLZZZ send a PM. GL everyone in the trny.

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Does anyone have any extra cash they could trade for online (any site)?? I'm in Niagara headed to Fallsview right now, if anyone can helpp a brother out, PLZZZ send a PM. GL everyone in the trny.

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