Two Plus Two Newer Archives

Two Plus Two Newer Archives (http://archives1.twoplustwo.com/index.php)
-   Micro Stakes (http://archives1.twoplustwo.com/forumdisplay.php?f=71)
-   -   Video: Help me please to finally becoming a winning player (http://archives1.twoplustwo.com/showthread.php?t=511417)

oli1980 09-28-2007 04:24 PM

Video: Help me please to finally becoming a winning player
 
MSNL,

I never really get the transition from FR to SH. I am playing SH for 9 months now and loose at every limit up to nl300 and can only continue because of rakeback and bonuses.

It kind of frustrating because i am a highly intelligent person but cant even beat nl50. That would be ok, but I don't understand why...

Thats me: www.bigoliver.de/graph.png

It not about the money any more. It is personal. I want to prove to myself that i can beat a limit.

So, MSNL, please watch the video (23 min) an give me a hint. It is most of the time preflop but I think that was my problem all the time (playing 16/13) only defend blinds in 90% of the time.

Here the link: Please comment: http://www.megaupload.com/de/?d=6SKRPX09

And please look at bet sizes etc.

Thanks
Oli

DaycareInferno 09-28-2007 04:35 PM

Re: Video: Help me please to finally becoming a winning player
 
i haven't looked at the video yet, but i doubt the problem is preflop. i maen, 16/13 is pretty tight, but its not that big of a difference between that and 19/16. you're playing a few less marginal hands/trash from late position, and that's about it. 16/13 won't lock you into losing at these limits, even though it wouldn't be my personal choice.

traz 09-28-2007 04:36 PM

Re: Video: Help me please to finally becoming a winning player
 
heh you're lucky, I have nothing to do at work this afternoon, so I'm dling now and I'll post comments in a short bit.

What stakes were graphed for the one linked?

edit-- nm, megaupload seems to think i already downloaded something today. So I'll check it out when I'm at home

oli1980 09-28-2007 04:54 PM

Re: Video: Help me please to finally becoming a winning player
 
The start is nl300 and until hand 60k is nl200. Everything since then nl100. i just recentyl moved to nl50 to work on my game. doesn't really make sense to me play nl100 right now.

oli1980 09-28-2007 04:58 PM

Re: Video: Help me please to finally becoming a winning player
 
[ QUOTE ]
i haven't looked at the video yet, but i doubt the problem is preflop. i maen, 16/13 is pretty tight, but its not that big of a difference between that and 19/16.

[/ QUOTE ]

I have lost -0.17 and -.15 PTBB per Hand from the blind. I didn't defend and called for set value against steals because I was uncomfortable raising... nobody I know has such a blindleak in PTBB

Prodigy54321 09-28-2007 05:00 PM

Re: Video: Help me please to finally becoming a winning player
 
about to start watching it...do you have PT stats we can see?

oli1980 09-28-2007 05:10 PM

Re: Video: Help me please to finally becoming a winning player
 
http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/6202/pt01yt5.th.png

http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/8220/pt02zh1.th.png

Gelford 09-28-2007 05:16 PM

Re: Video: Help me please to finally becoming a winning player
 
What's up with your turn aggression ???

traz 09-28-2007 05:20 PM

Re: Video: Help me please to finally becoming a winning player
 
You might be completing too often from the SB, but I highly doubt that's your major problem.

It's hard to tell from stats, but your flop AF is pretty high and your turn/river AF's are pretty low especially when looked at in relationship to each other. This is increasingly true as you go up in stakes, which really doesn't make much sense to me.

It's possible you're just too aggressive on the flop, causing you to leak too much value against hands you're behind and lose too much value against hands you beat.

That's mostly speculation though, it's alot easier to tell by watching your play.

oli1980 09-28-2007 05:20 PM

Re: Video: Help me please to finally becoming a winning player
 
It is to low. until now i was only valuebetting at partypoker because i was always thinking the call down with everthing.

Gelford 09-28-2007 05:24 PM

Re: Video: Help me please to finally becoming a winning player
 
[ QUOTE ]
It is to low. until now i was only valuebetting at partypoker because i was always thinking the call down with everthing.

[/ QUOTE ]

[img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

flameboy 09-28-2007 05:52 PM

Re: Video: Help me please to finally becoming a winning player
 
I've watched the video and as a general comment: I don't think being "too tight" preflop is that big a deal (excluding extremly tight players). 15/13 is certainly not optimal for 6-max but I do think 15/13 can play profitably.

One interesting spot I'd like to comment on is the Q8 hand around 00:19. What's up with calling down with top two when the bottom card pairs on the turn? Are you more afraid of him limping preflop and calling your bet on the flop with bottom pair so that the turn beats you now than giving a free river card to 2 opponents on a medium-drawy board? Your later comment that you would've folded to a PSB on the river. Readless that seems a little weak to me. You showed weakness on the turn and a flush draw might try to bet you off an 8. You basically only lose to an unlikely six, pocket eights or an overpair when other queens, lower pocketpairs and flush draws make up most of his range. (limp pf, call on the flop after a bet and a call).

[edit: i just remembered and rewatched the AT hand against a shortstack]
I would've just pushed the flop. Yes, you might've scared him with a push and he might fold midpair or worse but on the other hand any spade might kill your action (or kill your hand). There's nothing wrong with getting it in against a pf limper or taking a small pot down uncontested.
Letting opponents bluff of their stack is something you might want to do with a read, but not against an unknown.

AmonRaa 09-28-2007 06:16 PM

Re: Video: Help me please to finally becoming a winning player
 
Dont raise Q2 in SB. On the other hand you could raise a pp like 33 in sb with one limper.

Gelford 09-28-2007 06:36 PM

Re: Video: Help me please to finally becoming a winning player
 
In typical uNL everybody is focusing on pf ranges, when in reality that doesn't matter much

DonManuel 09-28-2007 07:14 PM

Re: Video: Help me please to finally becoming a winning player
 
Can't see the video. Can you upload it in mpg or wmv formats?

hurtchow 09-29-2007 01:54 AM

Re: Video: Help me please to finally becoming a winning player
 
I think you play fine based on this video. Although, don't feel so bad about calling PF once in a while. You seem to have a raise/fold mentality, which I think is a slight problem at $50 NL. Play those suited connectors more often! Against the right opponent, they can rake in some nice pots.

traz 09-29-2007 03:12 PM

Re: Video: Help me please to finally becoming a winning player
 
ok, I watched your video. There weren't many big things since the video was short and that's just how the session went.

- At some point you make a comment that you wouldn't call 33 oop for set value...this doesn't make much sense and you shouldn't fold 33 to a standard raise
- You talked about cbetting IP but not oop...I'm more inclined to cbet OOP than IP. This is so people can't take the initiative away from me, and also if i'm in position, I can cbet on the turn if he checks twice.
- Your Q8 two-pair hand is pretty bad. You need to bet the turn and not be so scared. I wouldn't fold to a river bet there, and you said you would.

Repeatedly throughout the video you talked about how you think your biggest leak is in the blinds/preflop...I spoke on this before I even saw the video, and I definitely feel the same way now. The blinds are not your problem. Preflop isn't your problem. In fact, I think some of your raises are too loose preflop (k4o and that kind of garbage, ick). But I'm a nit, so if you wanna do that go ahead.

If you have a problem it's post flop. I'm 99.9999% sure. Concentrate on working on your postflop play and stop thinking that your postflop is great and your preflop is weak.

I couldn't really see enough from the vid to come up with any other comments...gl ;o


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:25 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.