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pricedin 09-28-2007 09:08 AM

Phil Ivey vs. Jman 300/600
 
Jman up on both tables gogogo

pricedin 09-28-2007 09:13 AM

Re: Phil Ivey vs. Jman 300/600
 
boom

Full Tilt Poker Game #3695359278: Table Halbert (heads up) - $300/$600 - No Limit Hold'em - 9:11:44 ET - 2007/09/28
Seat 1: OMGClayAiken ($87,898.50)
Seat 2: Phil Ivey ($32,098.50)
OMGClayAiken posts the small blind of $300
Phil Ivey posts the big blind of $600
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
OMGClayAiken raises to $1,800
Phil Ivey calls $1,200
*** FLOP *** [Td 6h 6c]
Phil Ivey checks
OMGClayAiken bets $3,000
Phil Ivey has 15 seconds left to act
Phil Ivey raises to $9,600
OMGClayAiken has 15 seconds left to act
OMGClayAiken calls $6,600
*** TURN *** [Td 6h 6c] [8c]
Phil Ivey bets $20,698.50, and is all in
OMGClayAiken calls $20,698.50
Phil Ivey shows [7c 6s]
OMGClayAiken shows [Th As]
*** RIVER *** [Td 6h 6c 8c] [9s]
Phil Ivey shows a straight, Ten high
OMGClayAiken shows two pair, Tens and Sixes
Phil Ivey wins the pot ($64,196.50) with a straight, Ten high
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $64,197 | Rake $0.50
Board: [Td 6h 6c 8c 9s]
Seat 1: OMGClayAiken (small blind) showed [Th As] and lost with two pair, Tens and Sixes
Seat 2: Phil Ivey (big blind) showed [7c 6s] and won ($64,196.50) with a straight, Ten high

killsadie 09-28-2007 09:14 AM

Re: Phil Ivey vs. Jman 300/600
 
bold and aggressive

4drugmoney 09-28-2007 09:20 AM

Re: Phil Ivey vs. Jman 300/600
 
ohh this is sick

allstaryou 09-28-2007 09:23 AM

Re: Phil Ivey vs. Jman 300/600
 
random person after finding out phil plays poker: cool, so have you heard of phil ivey?

phil: uh, yeah

rpafoppp: cool, have you like, played him?

phil: yeah

rpafoppp: so how much did you lose?

phil: you mean him?

rpafoppp: uh, yeah

phil: i dunno, how much is your house worth?

rpafoppp: oh wow, awesome. really?

phil: yeah

rpafoppp: cool, but how much did you lose?

phil: [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]



i really hope phil doesn't lose.

metalfdoom 09-28-2007 09:26 AM

Re: Phil Ivey vs. Jman 300/600
 
PA's on waiting list

pricedin 09-28-2007 09:28 AM

Re: Phil Ivey vs. Jman 300/600
 
nooooooo clay Full Tilt Poker Game #3695414702: Table Halbert (heads up) - $300/$600 - No Limit Hold'em - 9:26:00 ET - 2007/09/28
Seat 1: OMGClayAiken ($88,796.50)
Seat 2: Phil Ivey ($35,994.50)
Phil Ivey posts the small blind of $300
OMGClayAiken posts the big blind of $600
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Phil Ivey raises to $1,800
OMGClayAiken calls $1,200
*** FLOP *** [2s 9d 4h]
OMGClayAiken checks
Phil Ivey bets $2,400
OMGClayAiken calls $2,400
*** TURN *** [2s 9d 4h] [6d]
OMGClayAiken checks
Phil Ivey bets $7,200
OMGClayAiken has 15 seconds left to act
OMGClayAiken calls $7,200
*** RIVER *** [2s 9d 4h 6d] [7s]
OMGClayAiken checks
Phil Ivey bets $24,594.50, and is all in
OMGClayAiken has 15 seconds left to act
OMGClayAiken has requested TIME
OMGClayAiken calls $24,594.50
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Phil Ivey shows [Qd Qs] a pair of Queens
OMGClayAiken mucks
Phil Ivey wins the pot ($71,988.50) with a pair of Queens
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $71,989 | Rake $0.50
Board: [2s 9d 4h 6d 7s]
Seat 1: OMGClayAiken (big blind) mucked
Seat 2: Phil Ivey (small blind) collected ($71,988.50)

4drugmoney 09-28-2007 09:35 AM

Re: Phil Ivey vs. Jman 300/600
 
this is so sick

pricedin 09-28-2007 09:39 AM

Re: Phil Ivey vs. Jman 300/600
 
love Phil but I gotta say I'm rooting for jman. There hasn't been much action this high lately and I want the internet player to end on top.

allstaryou 09-28-2007 09:41 AM

Re: Phil Ivey vs. Jman 300/600
 
[ QUOTE ]
this is so sick

[/ QUOTE ] http://z.about.com/d/poker/1/7/i/6/phillaak.JPG http://top2bottom.net/gussandantonio.jpg http://www.gambling911.com/Phil-Hellmuth-Girls.jpg http://images.poquer-red.com/noticia...nu-profile.jpg

pricedin 09-28-2007 09:50 AM

Re: Phil Ivey vs. Jman 300/600
 
booooooom

Full Tilt Poker Game #3695509729: Table Journey (heads up) - $300/$600 - No Limit Hold'em - 9:49:06 ET - 2007/09/28
Seat 1: OMGClayAiken ($110,889.50)
Seat 2: Phil Ivey ($10,589.50)
OMGClayAiken posts the small blind of $300
Phil Ivey posts the big blind of $600
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
OMGClayAiken raises to $1,400
Phil Ivey raises to $4,200
OMGClayAiken raises to $12,600
Phil Ivey calls $6,389.50, and is all in
OMGClayAiken shows [Kd Ks]
Phil Ivey shows [Ts Ad]
Uncalled bet of $2,010.50 returned to OMGClayAiken
*** FLOP *** [2h 8s 4h]
*** TURN *** [2h 8s 4h] [9h]
*** RIVER *** [2h 8s 4h 9h] [5c]
OMGClayAiken shows a pair of Kings
Phil Ivey shows Ace Ten high
OMGClayAiken wins the pot ($21,178.50) with a pair of Kings
Phil Ivey is sitting out
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $21,179 | Rake $0.50
Board: [2h 8s 4h 9h 5c]
Seat 1: OMGClayAiken (small blind) showed [Kd Ks] and won ($21,178.50) with a pair of Kings
Seat 2: Phil Ivey (big blind) showed [Ts Ad] and lost with Ace Ten high

humP 09-28-2007 09:50 AM

Re: Phil Ivey vs. Jman 300/600
 
Full Tilt Poker Game #3695496804: Table Journey (heads up) - $300/$600 - No Limit Hold'em - 9:46:09 ET - 2007/09/28
Straight French (Observer): that guy does 20k flips
Seat 1: OMGClayAiken ($91,391)
Seat 2: Phil Ivey ($30,089.50)
Phil Ivey posts the small blind of $300
OMGClayAiken posts the big blind of $600
The button is in seat #2
Swifty77 (Observer): call the deposit office and get ur limit increased
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Phil Ivey raises to $1,800
OMGClayAiken calls $1,200
*** FLOP *** [5d 9c Th]
OMGClayAiken checks
DGHDHJK (Observer): he does more than 20k flips
Phil Ivey bets $2,400
iambadplayer (Observer): do i send them like a 10k cashiers check?
OMGClayAiken calls $2,400
*** TURN *** [5d 9c Th] [Kh]
K30 (Observer): someone send me 1 bigblind? ;D
RxCowBell83 (Observer): mail it in cash to my apartment and i'll drive it over to ftp for you
OMGClayAiken checks
Phil Ivey checks
*** RIVER *** [5d 9c Th Kh] [4c]
shipthepeps (Observer): wire transfer it
AshtrayBroom (Observer): that's probably as degen as it gets
DGHDHJK (Observer): lol
OMGClayAiken has 15 seconds left to act
shipthepeps (Observer): wire transfer
OMGClayAiken bets $6,000
Phil Ivey calls $6,000
*** SHOW DOWN ***
OMGClayAiken shows [Ah 9s] a pair of Nines
shipthepeps (Observer): is the way
Phil Ivey mucks
OMGClayAiken wins the pot ($20,399.50) with a pair of Nines
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $20,400 | Rake $0.50
Board: [5d 9c Th Kh 4c]
Seat 1: OMGClayAiken (big blind) collected ($20,399.50)
Seat 2: Phil Ivey (small blind) mucked

Poker monkey 09-28-2007 09:54 AM

Re: Phil Ivey vs. Jman 300/600
 
Yarr I was going to post this one - Jman must have thought he was bluffing though....?

Melchiades 09-28-2007 09:55 AM

Re: Phil Ivey vs. Jman 300/600
 
So how much are they in for? Who is winning?

luckyjimm 09-28-2007 10:00 AM

Re: Phil Ivey vs. Jman 300/600
 
Is it still going on? Pls post hands

Game selection FTW!!!

brutalBeater 09-28-2007 10:01 AM

Re: Phil Ivey vs. Jman 300/600
 
Full Tilt Poker Game #3695554041: Table Halbert (heads up) - $300/$600 - No Limit Hold'em - 9:59:06 ET - 2007/09/28
Seat 1: OMGClayAiken ($59,099.50)
Seat 2: Phil Ivey ($103,780.50)
Phil Ivey posts the small blind of $300
OMGClayAiken posts the big blind of $600
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Phil Ivey raises to $1,800
OMGClayAiken raises to $6,600
Phil Ivey calls $4,800
*** FLOP *** [2s 4d Ts]
OMGClayAiken has 15 seconds left to act
OMGClayAiken bets $9,000
Phil Ivey has 15 seconds left to act
Phil Ivey raises to $25,800
OMGClayAiken has 15 seconds left to act
gwaihir (Observer): smell weakness
OMGClayAiken has requested TIME
jaschka (Observer): oh oh
dusttaker (Observer): set
OMGClayAiken raises to $52,499.50, and is all in
Phil Ivey calls $26,699.50
OMGClayAiken shows [Qs 8s]
Phil Ivey shows [Tc Qc]
*** TURN *** [2s 4d Ts] [Td]
*** RIVER *** [2s 4d Ts Td] [Th]
OMGClayAiken shows three of a kind, Tens
Phil Ivey shows four of a kind, Tens
Phil Ivey wins the pot ($118,198.50) with four of a kind, Tens
OMGClayAiken is sitting out
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $118,199 | Rake $0.50
Board: [2s 4d Ts Td Th]
Seat 1: OMGClayAiken (big blind) showed [Qs 8s] and lost with three of a kind, Tens
Seat 2: Phil Ivey (small blind) showed [Tc Qc] and won ($118,198.50) with four of a kind, Tens

Daddy Warbucks 09-28-2007 10:01 AM

Re: Phil Ivey vs. Jman 300/600
 
[ QUOTE ]
So how much are they in for? Who is winning?

[/ QUOTE ]

I think Ivey was in for 30 on each table.

Poker monkey 09-28-2007 10:04 AM

Re: Phil Ivey vs. Jman 300/600
 
^^^ hmmm, isn't this a fold on the flop? With the raise Ivey is already pot committed unless he has complete air... Do you think you played this one OK Jman?

schummlalala 09-28-2007 10:08 AM

Re: Phil Ivey vs. Jman 300/600
 
omg

Full Tilt Poker Game #3695585928: Table Halbert (heads up) - $300/$600 - No Limit Hold'em - 10:06:22 ET - 2007/09/28
Seat 1: OMGClayAiken ($77,397.50)
Seat 2: Phil Ivey ($145,478.50)
Phil Ivey posts the small blind of $300
OMGClayAiken posts the big blind of $600
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Phil Ivey has 15 seconds left to act
Phil Ivey raises to $1,800
OMGClayAiken raises to $6,600
Phil Ivey calls $4,800
*** FLOP *** [9d 7d Ad]
OMGClayAiken checks
Phil Ivey has 15 seconds left to act
Phil Ivey bets $10,800
OMGClayAiken calls $10,800
*** TURN *** [9d 7d Ad] [Tc]
OMGClayAiken checks
Phil Ivey has 15 seconds left to act
Phil Ivey bets $27,600
OMGClayAiken has 15 seconds left to act
OMGClayAiken has requested TIME
OMGClayAiken raises to $59,997.50, and is all in
Phil Ivey calls $32,397.50
OMGClayAiken shows [9c 7c]
Phil Ivey shows [8h Jh]
*** RIVER *** [9d 7d Ad Tc] [Qh]
OMGClayAiken shows two pair, Nines and Sevens
Phil Ivey shows a straight, Queen high
Phil Ivey wins the pot ($154,794.50) with a straight, Queen high
OMGClayAiken is sitting out
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $154,795 | Rake $0.50
Board: [9d 7d Ad Tc Qh]
Seat 1: OMGClayAiken (big blind) showed [9c 7c] and lost with two pair, Nines and Sevens
Seat 2: Phil Ivey (small blind) showed [8h Jh] and won ($154,794.50) with a straight, Queen high

brutalBeater 09-28-2007 10:08 AM

Re: Phil Ivey vs. Jman 300/600
 
nice one phil!

CASHius-Clay 09-28-2007 10:09 AM

Re: Phil Ivey vs. Jman 300/600
 
Game's Over

pricedin 09-28-2007 10:09 AM

Re: Phil Ivey vs. Jman 300/600
 
wtf is he doing just calling on that flop?

Jman28 09-28-2007 10:10 AM

Re: Phil Ivey vs. Jman 300/600
 
Sigh.

Up 30 buyins this week at 25/50, but can't pull it out when it counts.

Jman28 09-28-2007 10:11 AM

Re: Phil Ivey vs. Jman 300/600
 
To answer questions, A9 was a vb, Q8ss is standard, and I think the 97 hand was non-standard but fine.

CASHius-Clay 09-28-2007 10:12 AM

Re: Phil Ivey vs. Jman 300/600
 
Phil is now playing Ziigmund at 200/440 PLO

pricedin 09-28-2007 10:13 AM

Re: Phil Ivey vs. Jman 300/600
 
I'll admit you did get very unlucky on the last hand and a diamond would shut him down almost every time.

Daddy Warbucks 09-28-2007 10:13 AM

Re: Phil Ivey vs. Jman 300/600
 
[ QUOTE ]
To answer questions, A9 was a vb, Q8ss is standard, and I think the 97 hand was non-standard but fine.

[/ QUOTE ]

Hole cards for the QQ hand?

davidlong14 09-28-2007 10:15 AM

Re: Phil Ivey vs. Jman 300/600
 
too many Phils...

luckyjimm 09-28-2007 10:20 AM

Re: Phil Ivey vs. Jman 300/600
 
JMan, why play Phil Ivey at 300/600 in the first place?
What goes through your head?

Serious question - do you think you're +EV? Does anyone?

In particular, his stop-loss strategy and tendency to buy in short means you're VERY unlikely to take him for a big score. He quits as soon as he starts to lose.

So why does anyone play him?

luckyjimm 09-28-2007 10:21 AM

Re: Phil Ivey vs. Jman 300/600
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
To answer questions, A9 was a vb, Q8ss is standard, and I think the 97 hand was non-standard but fine.

[/ QUOTE ]

Hole cards for the QQ hand?

[/ QUOTE ]

This hand makes me think of Phil G's recent article about making hero calls, where he says the ones which work get all the attention and people forget the ones which didn't. I guess this was one of those ones which didn't work!

Melchiades 09-28-2007 10:42 AM

Re: Phil Ivey vs. Jman 300/600
 
[ QUOTE ]
In particular, his stop-loss strategy and tendency to buy in short means you're VERY unlikely to take him for a big score. He quits as soon as he starts to lose.

So why does anyone play him?

[/ QUOTE ]
You're right. Ivey has figured out a stop loss strategy that makes it -EV to play him. Unexploitable.

martenJ 09-28-2007 10:46 AM

Re: Phil Ivey vs. Jman 300/600
 
link to the article pls

luckyjimm 09-28-2007 11:24 AM

Re: Phil Ivey vs. Jman 300/600
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
In particular, his stop-loss strategy and tendency to buy in short means you're VERY unlikely to take him for a big score. He quits as soon as he starts to lose.

So why does anyone play him?

[/ QUOTE ]
You're right. Ivey has figured out a stop loss strategy that makes it -EV to play him. Unexploitable.

[/ QUOTE ]


If you're being ironic, I don't care.

The guy quits when he's down at most 100k , what you going to do? Your losses will be bigger than your wins.

Jman28 09-28-2007 11:32 AM

Re: Phil Ivey vs. Jman 300/600
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
In particular, his stop-loss strategy and tendency to buy in short means you're VERY unlikely to take him for a big score. He quits as soon as he starts to lose.

So why does anyone play him?

[/ QUOTE ]
You're right. Ivey has figured out a stop loss strategy that makes it -EV to play him. Unexploitable.

[/ QUOTE ]


If you're being ironic, I don't care.

The guy quits when he's down at most 100k , what you going to do? Your losses will be bigger than your wins.

[/ QUOTE ]

Stop loss strategy's are only good if you play worse when losing. There's no other benefit to them EV-wise.

Yes, I think I'm +EV vs. Ivey.

inyourface 09-28-2007 11:44 AM

Re: Phil Ivey vs. Jman 300/600
 
[ QUOTE ]
Yes, I think I'm +EV vs. Ivey.

[/ QUOTE ]

I've got a feeling he's happy you think you are +Ev too [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Stake Monster 09-28-2007 12:03 PM

Re: Phil Ivey vs. Jman 300/600
 
lol @ people acting like Phil Ivey is unbeatable.

Pudge714 09-28-2007 12:10 PM

Re: Phil Ivey vs. Jman 300/600
 
Jman,
Phil Ivey plays on TV and has won tournaments. Please explain how you are +EV vs him?

yaaam1484 09-28-2007 12:15 PM

Re: Phil Ivey vs. Jman 300/600
 
I'm sure Jman thinks he's +EV against Ivey because of the stakes, 300/600 doesn't bother Ivey that much and it often reflects in his play. If they played in another setting and higher stakes I think Jman would be more humble about his EV. Nevertheless I'm not saying he would be -EV.

luckyjimm 09-28-2007 12:20 PM

Re: Phil Ivey vs. Jman 300/600
 
[ QUOTE ]

Stop loss strategy's are only good if you play worse when losing. There's no other benefit to them EV-wise.

Yes, I think I'm +EV vs. Ivey.

[/ QUOTE ]

Does Ivey ever tilt? Seems he often quits when he loses a buy-in to an outdraw, to preclude the possibility of tilt before it happens. In comparison to Benyamine and Gus he doesn't play super-long sessions, though he will stay for the kill when he's winning big. And he always buys in short, quits when down a few, so doesn't risk much of his own money. He seems in every way the nightmare opponent.

adi 09-28-2007 12:21 PM

Re: Phil Ivey vs. Jman 300/600
 
isn't ivey a live player lol? forget 300/600, i bet he couldn't beat 3/6 online... much like nergranu..


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