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Butcho22 09-27-2007 11:41 PM

How big of a gambling/sports betting problem does Barry G really have?
 
So I realize Barry is as off limits as anyone around here when it comes to threads that may potentially be looked at as slandering his name.
I am not trying to do that.

In the cardplayer video, barry starts to talk about betting sports. He quickly reminds us, and himself it sounded like, that he doesn't bet sports anymore because he has to bet at least 6 figures to get any rush.
The way he talked about it, it certainly sounded like he may have gone pretty deep before quitting.

Also,

Last Sunday Barry played DN in the heads up 10k showdown on stars. Apparently Daniel had told stars that Barry would be playing. Barry didn't register until pretty close towards the start of the tournament, and Daniel was talking about how stars was asking him where he was. Daniel then joked to Barry that he was going to tell stars that Barry wasn't playing because he wouldn't stake him.

Barry then responded, and I don't remember the exact quote but this is pretty close for sure, "I wish that were further from the truth."

Now I thought that comment was very odd coming from someone like Barry, but decided against making a thread because it could've been an inside joke or something. But then yesterday I saw the cardplayer interview, and my curiosity got the best of me.

I know that Barry has donated more money to charity then I'll probably ever see in my lifetime, and I applaud him for that. I also have no doubt that if he was ever to go completely broke, he would have plenty of friends bending over backwards to help him get back on his feet.
So let's not take this as me calling him busto or a degenerate scumbag.

But it appears Barry has a bit of T.J. in him, I just don't know to what degree. I used to have a blackjack issue, and listening to the way Barry talked about sports betting gave me the feeling that he took a pretty big hit before giving it up.

Thread worthy?
Ban Butcho?

Stay away from the sportsbooks, Barry!

Ganjasaurus Rex 09-27-2007 11:48 PM

Re: How big of a gambling/sports betting problem does Barry G really h
 
If you have $100, is betting $1 "going pretty deep"?

It's all relative. Barry has the money to make those big bets without feeling the losses.

ImsaKidd 09-28-2007 12:07 AM

Re: How big of a gambling/sports betting problem does Barry G really h
 
I have a feeling Barry has a little extra dough to spend on sports and whatnot.

KSOT 09-28-2007 12:10 AM

Re: How big of a gambling/sports betting problem does Barry G really h
 
Instead of that whole silly OP you should have just said "Barry G Busto?" Would've been received far better.

phiphika1453 09-28-2007 12:13 AM

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Any amount of money that get your juices going when you bet it has to be a noticeable amount of your net worth. Lets face it would 100k get his juices goin if he was a billionaire? Probably not.

shane88888 09-28-2007 12:43 AM

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Barry then responded, and I don't remember the exact quote but this is pretty close for sure, "I wish that were further from the truth."

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Yes, this is completely inconsistent with Barry's well-known self-deprecating humor.

Ugh.

Victor 09-28-2007 12:44 AM

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proly not too big a problem considering he said in the vid that he hasnt been betting lately.

Dima2000123 09-28-2007 12:51 AM

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proly not too big a problem considering he said in the vid that he hasnt been betting lately.

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He hasn't been betting lately because he hasn't got the money to risk.

sapol 09-28-2007 01:20 AM

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I don't think he has a problem at all. The guy can definitely afford to lose big sums so he's able to make big bets. As he said in the video he doesn't bet what he doesn't have.

salesbeast 09-28-2007 01:32 AM

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Your talking about a group of elite degen gamblers...these guys have $10k prop bets on how many ice cubes a delivered drink will have. He is on a totally different planet when it comes to betting and I think he prob got cooled on some big bets and thought to stay with poker...just a thought.

Ganjasaurus Rex 09-28-2007 01:40 AM

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Any amount of money that get your juices going when you bet it has to be a noticeable amount of your net worth. Lets face it would 100k get his juices goin if he was a billionaire? Probably not.

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I make $120k a year and i still find it entertaining to make a $10 bet on something. It's all relative.

Dan87 09-28-2007 01:44 AM

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Any amount of money that get your juices going when you bet it has to be a noticeable amount of your net worth. Lets face it would 100k get his juices goin if he was a billionaire? Probably not.

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I make $120k a year and i still find it entertaining to make a $10 bet on something. It's all relative.

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Highly doubt this is true. You may find it "entertaining", but if it were a $100 or $1000 bet it would be more entertaining

Victor 09-28-2007 01:46 AM

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proly not too big a problem considering he said in the vid that he hasnt been betting lately.

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He hasn't been betting lately because he hasn't got the money to risk.

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Hotel Detect 09-28-2007 01:50 AM

Re: How big of a gambling/sports betting problem does Barry G really have?
 
Eli took a sizable amount off him @ the WSOP in props im pretty sure, so that with a downswing and he could be hurting right now.

I also noticed his comments on the cardplayer vid.

It is not like these guys are worth 20 mil + so they gamble way beyond their means. Luckily, Barry has tons of earning potential and about 1000 willing backers so it'd be hard for him to go permabust.

Ganjasaurus Rex 09-28-2007 01:50 AM

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Any amount of money that get your juices going when you bet it has to be a noticeable amount of your net worth. Lets face it would 100k get his juices goin if he was a billionaire? Probably not.

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I make $120k a year and i still find it entertaining to make a $10 bet on something. It's all relative.

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Highly doubt this is true. You may find it "entertaining", but if it were a $100 or $1000 bet it would be more entertaining

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No, it wouldn't. That's why i don't make $1000 bets. I know i can lose $10 without feeling any loss, but the win is still entertaining because it's a win and then i can go to Starbucks and buy an outrageously expensive pair of coffees for me and my wife. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

realjaydub 09-28-2007 02:00 AM

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So many people lost the value to money,,,,but Barry donates so much, I doubt he has a problem...just a very smart guy.

nath 09-28-2007 02:24 AM

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Any amount of money that get your juices going when you bet it has to be a noticeable amount of your net worth. Lets face it would 100k get his juices goin if he was a billionaire? Probably not.

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I make $120k a year and i still find it entertaining to make a $10 bet on something. It's all relative.

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Highly doubt this is true. You may find it "entertaining", but if it were a $100 or $1000 bet it would be more entertaining

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No, it wouldn't. That's why i don't make $1000 bets. I know i can lose $10 without feeling any loss, but the win is still entertaining because it's a win and then i can go to Starbucks and buy an outrageously expensive pair of coffees for me and my wife. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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You're just not a real gambler.

Alobar 09-28-2007 02:27 AM

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proly not too big a problem considering he said in the vid that he hasnt been betting lately.

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He hasn't been betting lately because he hasn't got the money to risk.

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that about sums it up

Pudge714 09-28-2007 02:32 AM

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Any amount of money that get your juices going when you bet it has to be a noticeable amount of your net worth. Lets face it would 100k get his juices goin if he was a billionaire? Probably not.

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I make $120k a year and i still find it entertaining to make a $10 bet on something. It's all relative.

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Highly doubt this is true. You may find it "entertaining", but if it were a $100 or $1000 bet it would be more entertaining

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No, it wouldn't. That's why i don't make $1000 bets. I know i can lose $10 without feeling any loss, but the win is still entertaining because it's a win and then i can go to Starbucks and buy an outrageously expensive pair of coffees for me and my wife. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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luckyjimm 09-28-2007 02:46 AM

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From the video, I would say Barry G has precisely NO gambling/sports betting problem.
He seems a man in complete control.

Rootabager 09-28-2007 03:09 AM

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I think it's hilarious he decorated his house like a casino. That's the best part of the vid.

sapol 09-28-2007 04:56 AM

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It is not like these guys are worth 20 mil +

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yes they are. That's probably the size of their bankrolls only.

Hotel Detect 09-28-2007 05:51 AM

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It is not like these guys are worth 20 mil +

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yes they are. That's probably the size of their bankrolls only.

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Jooka 09-28-2007 06:02 AM

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i heard barry just put up his house as collateral for a sports bet this weekend. good luck barry.

NicksDad1970 09-28-2007 06:10 AM

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If you have $100, is betting $1 "going pretty deep"?

It's all relative. Barry has the money to make those big bets without feeling the losses.

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That may be true but if BG1 made the comment about "wish it was further from the truth" about a 10k tourney then who knows.

I hope it was just a joke by Barry since he seems like such a good guy with donations etc.

Also great thread

Bolivia 09-28-2007 06:27 AM

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I don't really know how Barry had his big downswing cuz I haven't heard anything about that. A handful of people told me that he was getting staked either before or around this year's WSOP. I'm pretty sure it was by Ivey.

These guys never really go bust tho. In the higher circles ur roll is as big as your circle of friends. I know plenty of top players who've borrowed loads of cash with as little as a fone call (while it sounds crazy I've heard of loans as big as $1MM). While I didn't witness it, I know of one time that Eli Elizra loaned MadCaddy $200k+ in the big game. Caddy was running bad and Eli just passed him chips as he was leaving without really even knowing the kid at all away from the table. Caddy won that session and showed up at his room later and returned the cash. Still a pretty sick story.

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isapistola 09-28-2007 10:18 AM

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now that the NVG retardation has started ill throw out the question thats on everybodys mind: how much money does barry g have?

ill set the O/U at 10 milliunz.

davidlong14 09-28-2007 10:21 AM

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...we all should have such a "problem"...BG has a super-high degree of self-awareness

Bulletproof Monk 09-28-2007 10:27 AM

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Any amount of money that get your juices going when you bet it has to be a noticeable amount of your net worth. Lets face it would 100k get his juices goin if he was a billionaire? Probably not.

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I make $120k a year and i still find it entertaining to make a $10 bet on something. It's all relative.

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Highly doubt this is true. You may find it "entertaining", but if it were a $100 or $1000 bet it would be more entertaining

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No, it wouldn't. That's why i don't make $1000 bets. I know i can lose $10 without feeling any loss, but the win is still entertaining because it's a win and then i can go to Starbucks and buy an outrageously expensive pair of coffees for me and my wife. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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fnord_too 09-28-2007 10:48 AM

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I think he has been on a cooler lately. There was talk a while ago about him running bad in the big game for about a year, and he has stated repeatedly that he is hard on money. So it certainly wouldn't surprise me if he was strapped atm.

BrandiFan 09-28-2007 11:06 AM

Re: How big of a gambling/sports betting problem does Barry G really h
 
He addressed this last night on the wcoop broadcast and said that he occasionally bets with other poker players and thinks he is about even.
Maybe the DN comment was because he didn't have much in his Stars account...

SGspecial 09-28-2007 11:49 AM

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From the video, I would say Barry G has precisely NO gambling/sports betting problem.
He seems a man in complete control.

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From your perspective, John Daly seems like a man in complete control.

FatRed 09-28-2007 12:03 PM

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Over / Under on how long b4 Barry comes in and shuts us all up?

onoble 09-28-2007 02:55 PM

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Over / Under on how long b4 Barry comes in and shuts us all up?

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infinity

dogdrool 09-28-2007 09:52 PM

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Just to back up the OP a bit, I also was struck by Barry saying that he needs to bet six figures, but he can't afford to lose six figures right now. He said it in a bit of a forlorn way that seemed a bit curious.

I'm not claiming Barry is busto. I'm just saying that part of the video really struck me, and I've thought about it a few times in the past day.

TheOneWizard 09-28-2007 10:10 PM

Re: How big of a gambling/sports betting problem does Barry G really h
 
What Cardplayer video are you talking about? I can't find any vid made by him.

Butcho22 09-28-2007 10:32 PM

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What Cardrunners video are you talking about? I can't find any vid made by him.

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Here ya go (not a rickroll)

Butcho22 09-28-2007 10:44 PM

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From the video, I would say Barry G has precisely NO gambling/sports betting problem.
He seems a man in complete control.

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Barry does seem in control, but that doesn't mean he didn't lose it for a period of time.

People don't talk about it like Barry did imo unless their life has become affected by the problem at some point, even if it was small and quickly fixed/solved.

Obviously he can recover from even going complete busto and the amount of money he's lost is larger than say, what I've lost playing blackjack,...but he talks about it the same way I would talk about it. Like he's been touched by the evil that is degen gambling. And you don't feel that evil until it really hurts in the bank.

Hope that makes some sense, I'm pretty baked.

LonesomeFugitive 09-28-2007 10:46 PM

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I think he has been on a cooler lately. There was talk a while ago about him running bad in the big game for about a year, and he has stated repeatedly that he is hard on money. So it certainly wouldn't surprise me if he was strapped atm.

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Is "strapped" the right word here? to Barry being strapped is not being able to bet 6 figures for fun. For an average joe like myself it is having 50 bucks left in your checking account after paying rent.

SuperUberBob 09-29-2007 06:23 AM

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If Barry is capable of staying within his bankroll or income and can control his desires for action, then he is not a pathological gambler.


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