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JDalla 09-23-2007 11:33 PM

another \"Who is DN talking about\"
 
In his video blog when he's talking about the rule against showing hole cards...

"I don't think anyone who really knows anything about poker supports this rule... not going to say who I'm talking about because he'll get all mad and we'll have a big fight on the internet"

(not direct quote but that's the gist)

fraac 09-23-2007 11:36 PM

Re: another \"Who is DN talking about\"
 
Ivey.

Lurker. 09-23-2007 11:38 PM

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ebepse 09-23-2007 11:40 PM

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BrandiFan 09-23-2007 11:41 PM

Re: another \"Who is DN talking about\"
 
probably Matt Savage

acseif 09-24-2007 12:05 AM

Re: another \"Who is DN talking about\"
 
sklanksy??

Kirbynator 09-24-2007 12:07 AM

Re: another \"Who is DN talking about\"
 
samuel l jackson

sapol 09-24-2007 12:23 AM

Re: another \"Who is DN talking about\"
 
the cheating, card viewing players at absolute ?

Stellastarr 09-24-2007 01:02 AM

Re: another \"Who is DN talking about\"
 
Raymer.. obvs

kleath 09-24-2007 01:29 AM

Re: another \"Who is DN talking about\"
 
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probably Matt Savage

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yup

john voight 09-24-2007 01:45 AM

Re: another \"Who is DN talking about\"
 
Raymer

[Phill] 09-24-2007 02:18 AM

Re: another \"Who is DN talking about\"
 
Which rule against showing holecards?

osh 09-24-2007 02:23 AM

Re: another \"Who is DN talking about\"
 
Snakes. It's all about the snakes. On the plane.

john voight 09-24-2007 02:31 AM

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Which rule against showing holecards?

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if you show 1 card, you need to flip over second one, imo.

so you cant just flip your ace of hearts, and keep your 3 of clubs mucked. dealer will make you show both, imo.

DN says the rule is to prevent "needeling", imo.

[Phill] 09-24-2007 02:43 AM

Re: another \"Who is DN talking about\"
 
Aah, they had a bit of a convo bout this on HSP.

Its right that its a stupid rule and whoever believes in it is an idiot.

Jzo19 09-24-2007 03:20 AM

Re: another \"Who is DN talking about\"
 
here's the link of the matt savage vs DN discussion a couple months ago

matt savage vs DN

selurah 09-24-2007 03:38 AM

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probably Matt Savage

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yup

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holla

john voight 09-24-2007 03:52 AM

Re: another \"Who is DN talking about\"
 
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here's the link of the matt savage vs DN discussion a couple months ago

matt savage vs DN

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cliffs?

whoisthedrizzle 09-24-2007 03:58 AM

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isanig

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qfldo

but seriously racist ban

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Honestly guys, a note on tone.

silver book 09-24-2007 05:17 AM

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doyle?

Bonified 09-24-2007 06:05 AM

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Cliffs are quite difficult. IMO, Daniel, and people like Jamie Gold (which should tell you enough) want to show card(s) during a hand [for psychological reasons][to show off and get more camera time]. Matt Savage, and people like me, say that it people could do the same thing as a form of collusion and that the floor-people don't want to have to make a bunch of subjective decisions as to what is what.

Daniel then ignores this and/or confuses things by conflating this issue with the completely separate issue of showing one or both cards after the hand.

Those are my (admittedly biased) cliff notes :-)

Bonified 09-24-2007 06:13 AM

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if you show 1 card, you need to flip over second one, imo.

so you cant just flip your ace of hearts, and keep your 3 of clubs mucked. dealer will make you show both, imo.

DN says the rule is to prevent "needeling", imo.


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This needs complete clarification. Hardly anyone has a problem with showing one card after the hand, as above. I don't have a problem with it. That is a silly rule.

But DN also wants to show cards during a hand. When he says "everyone agrees with me on this", he means the first (after the hand) case, however he often seems to be implying (inadvertently perhaps) that everyone agrees about the second (during the hand) case, which they (we) most definitely do not.

yaaam1484 09-24-2007 11:44 AM

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Cliffs are quite difficult. IMO, Daniel, and people like Jamie Gold (which should tell you enough) want to show card(s) during a hand [for psychological reasons][to show off and get more camera time]. Matt Savage, and people like me, say that it people could do the same thing as a form of collusion and that the floor-people don't want to have to make a bunch of subjective decisions as to what is what.

Daniel then ignores this and/or confuses things by conflating this issue with the completely separate issue of showing one or both cards after the hand.

Those are my (admittedly biased) cliff notes :-)

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That's just stupid. If people want to collude they can do gestures with their face, hand, whatever.

JJBuffone 09-24-2007 12:34 PM

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Vince Van Patten

shane88888 09-24-2007 12:55 PM

Re: another \"Who is DN talking about\"
 
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Vince Van Patten

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Please, stop.

Every time I see that name, I get the douche chills.

NicksDad1970 09-24-2007 01:04 PM

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probably Matt Savage

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Agreed....I believe they already did.

illegit 09-24-2007 01:12 PM

Re: another \"Who is DN talking about\"
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
if you show 1 card, you need to flip over second one, imo.

so you cant just flip your ace of hearts, and keep your 3 of clubs mucked. dealer will make you show both, imo.

DN says the rule is to prevent "needeling", imo.


[/ QUOTE ]

This needs complete clarification. Hardly anyone has a problem with showing one card after the hand, as above. I don't have a problem with it. That is a silly rule.

But DN also wants to show cards during a hand. When he says "everyone agrees with me on this", he means the first (after the hand) case, however he often seems to be implying (inadvertently perhaps) that everyone agrees about the second (during the hand) case, which they (we) most definitely do not.

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Yeah. The after-the-hand rule is clearly retarded though. And I'm pretty sure it originated from someone misinterpretting the phrase "show-one-show-all" to mean "show one card, show all cards" when it initially meant "show one player, show all players".

PLO8FaceKilla 09-24-2007 01:14 PM

Re: another \"Who is DN talking about\"
 
it's clearly Tomer Benvenisti

mocky 09-24-2007 01:18 PM

Re: another \"Who is DN talking about\"
 
Andy Beal LDO

ocdscale 09-24-2007 01:31 PM

Re: another \"Who is DN talking about\"
 
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Andy Beal LDO

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Does he even play poker?

Dimitzu 09-24-2007 01:59 PM

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samuel l jackson

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Enough is enough. I`ve had it with these mothaf*cking stupid answers in this mothaf*ucking forum!

LearnedfromTV 09-24-2007 03:32 PM

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I don't understand how anyone can think showing a card during a hand in tournament poker should be allowed.

Results of a hand affect everyone, not just the players in the hand, so the amount and type of information available to players in a hand should be as consistent as possible.

yaaam1484 09-24-2007 03:34 PM

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I don't understand how anyone can think showing a card during a hand in tournament poker should be allowed.

Results of a hand affect everyone, not just the players in the hand, so the amount and type of information available to players in a hand should be as consistent as possible.

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And if a hand goes to "show"down, we should have the tournament director come over, check the hands and say who got the best hand, without showing it.

LearnedfromTV 09-24-2007 03:36 PM

Re: another \"Who is DN talking about\"
 
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I don't understand how anyone can think showing a card during a hand in tournament poker should be allowed.

Results of a hand affect everyone, not just the players in the hand, so the amount and type of information available to players in a hand should be as consistent as possible.

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And if a hand goes to "show"down, we should have the tournament director come over, check the hands and say who got the best hand, without showing it.

[/ QUOTE ]

Your analogy is broken.

redCashion 09-24-2007 04:05 PM

Re: another \"Who is DN talking about\"
 
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Snakes. It's all about the snakes. On the plane.

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I had to check the date on this post.

SuperUberBob 09-24-2007 07:55 PM

Re: another \"Who is DN talking about\"
 
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probably Matt Savage

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yup

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holla

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Exactly who I thought it was.


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