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eyedol 09-21-2007 05:37 AM

25/50 FR - Sick spot with AA
 
Got in a tricky spot with AA on partypoker. FI is a solid regular as far as I know. I have only 300 hands on him with 8-10 players, 30/16/2.5 (total stats 1100 hands 34/23/3)
I've been playing tight, something like 16/10.



Hero (SB): $11,757.00
BB: $5,320.00
UTG: $5,000.00
UTG+1: $6,508.66
UTG+2: $6,426.00
MP1: $9,482.50
MP2: $760.00
MP3: $5,000.00
CO: $2,660.00
BTN: $20,484.46

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (10 Players)
3 folds, <font color="red">MP1 raises to $175.00</font>, MP2 folds, MP3 calls $175.00, CO folds, BTN calls $175.00, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1,000.00</font>, BB folds, MP1 calls $825.00, MP3 folds, BTN calls $825.00

Flop: ($3225) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $2,500.00</font>, MP1 calls $2,500.00, BTN folds

Turn: ($8225) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero ?

HedonismBot 09-21-2007 06:56 AM

Re: 25/50 FR - Sick spot with AA
 
This is a sweet spot he probly has QQ

DJ Sensei 09-21-2007 07:04 AM

Re: 25/50 FR - Sick spot with AA
 
bet little, call shove. if he's got kings its a cooler

HeheOkok 09-21-2007 07:15 AM

Re: 25/50 FR - Sick spot with AA
 
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bet little, call shove. if he's got kings its a cooler

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that sounds pretty horrible.

MDMA 09-21-2007 07:45 AM

Re: 25/50 FR - Sick spot with AA
 
I check the turn pretty much 100% here.

stephenNUTS 09-21-2007 07:53 AM

Re: 25/50 FR - Sick spot with AA
 
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I check the turn pretty much 100% here.

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I check the turn here also
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ttgirl 09-21-2007 08:09 AM

Re: 25/50 FR - Sick spot with AA
 
wtf were not 100 bbs deep. villain definitely isnt going broke here with qq

AcidKnight 09-21-2007 10:23 AM

Re: 25/50 FR - Sick spot with AA
 
Villain has ~$6K left in an $8K+ pot. I think that betting small makes our hand look too much like KK. I'd prefer a check than a bet here I think.

Christophers 09-21-2007 01:02 PM

Re: 25/50 FR - Sick spot with AA
 
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bet little, call shove. if he's got kings its a cooler

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that sounds pretty horrible.

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AAismyfriend 09-21-2007 03:11 PM

Re: 25/50 FR - Sick spot with AA
 
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I check the turn pretty much 100% here.

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EmpireMaker2 09-21-2007 04:39 PM

Re: 25/50 FR - Sick spot with AA
 
I dont know why this is sick id be happy to have AA here everytime, check turn ai river

gman06 09-21-2007 06:40 PM

Re: 25/50 FR - Sick spot with AA
 
clear check IMO, and the rare times that he pushes the turn I'm not folding. I push river if it checks through

FiSheYe 09-21-2007 08:12 PM

Re: 25/50 FR - Sick spot with AA
 
I really don't like a bet on the turn unless you have a history.. checking the turn seems to be the best play...
I cannot see him having AK or KQ here so he either has you crushed by now (trips, 33, KK, flush) or he is way behind..
so check the turn and decided from there.

eyedol 09-22-2007 01:33 AM

Re: 25/50 FR - Sick spot with AA
 
Ok we seem to agree that this is a check.

Turn: ($8225) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, MP1 checks

River: ($8225) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero

Do we also agree that river is a shove?
I just have a hard time to see which worse hands that will call here..
If we check, fold to a shove?

raptor517 09-22-2007 02:01 AM

Re: 25/50 FR - Sick spot with AA
 
i check turn and bet like 3850 on the river assuming he checks behind.

Nielsio 09-22-2007 07:09 PM

Re: 25/50 FR - Sick spot with AA
 
Bet the river for value. He seems like a monkey.

Too bad you got coolered. BBV etc etc

imabigdeal 09-22-2007 10:37 PM

Re: 25/50 FR - Sick spot with AA
 
i don't see like any worse hands that pay us off with a river bet

duck_butter 09-23-2007 01:54 AM

Re: 25/50 FR - Sick spot with AA
 
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FI is a solid regular as far as I know.

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I dont know why this is sick id be happy to have AA here everytime, check turn ai river

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I push river if it checks through

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And what % of the time he calls the river AI are we ahead? I don't like pushing river like this at all.

praios 09-23-2007 04:54 PM

Re: 25/50 FR - Sick spot with AA
 
check turn bet river

AB_illusive 09-25-2007 04:36 AM

Re: 25/50 FR - Sick spot with AA
 
Wtf is going on with all the turn checks?

K[h] is an optimal card to bet, as hero is -hopefully- bluffing that card a lot if he squeezed with rags, or holding the A[h]x.

I'd shove turn most of the time, and expect to get called by QQ-TT (and the hands, that have AA beat ofc, esp. KK).
Maybe this doesn't apply all that much to the 16/10 hero, unless he knowns how to work his image (then he should really be shoving this turn aaaaall the time).

- AB

Bill King 09-25-2007 10:21 AM

Re: 25/50 FR - Sick spot with AA
 
i think checking the turn and then shoving is pretty pointless if we're going to call a river shove anyhow, since we're shoving for value.

i like making a nice vb like raptor said hoping to induce a thin call by villain, and in the case that he shoves we're probably behind but its probably pretty bad to fold correctly at that point


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