PokerStars VIP summary
 

I am new to the PokerStars VIP and wanted to know if I am missing any major parts of value in this promotion? I read it here: http://www.pokerstars.com/vip/ and just wanted to know if I am missing anything important.

Basically:
GoldStar at 4000VPP you can buy $285 bonus for 25,000 FPP
PlatinumStar at 10000VPP you can buy $650 bonus for 50,000 FPP
I presume you can do both.

Also, there are the Saturday freerolls.

Also, you earn FPP faster at higher levels.

Any other major aspects to this program?

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You can buy as many bonuses as you want. No reason you would ever buy a lower level bonus once you've qualified for a higher one as the rate of return on the value of FPP gets better as you move up.

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also, u prolly realized this, but u maintain the status u earn for the rest of the current month and then for the following month as well, so u have to keep on earning pts

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SuperNova at 100000VPP/year you can buy $1000 bonus for 100,000 FPP.

As you said, each level accumulates points faster than the previous level.

There are also milestone bonuses for those that play enough to surpass 100,000 VPP in a year. They are:

$2,000 at 200kVPP
$3,000 at 300kVPP
$4,000 at 400kVPP
$5,000 at 500kVPP

and they go up from there. Each milestone bonus costs 50kFPP though, which is basically $750.

There is also the concierge service that allows you to purchase items that are not in the FPP Store. When using this service you actually get a better rate than you would just purchasing the bonuses. Players have gotten such things as watches and big screen TVs amongst other things.

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I see those bonuses I listed aren't the greatest deals at 1.14 cents and 1.3 cents per FPP.

What are my best deals I should go for?

I play mostly NL100 and NL200 and was earning ~$1,500 rakeback monthly at Full Tilt and am not sure how many FPP monthly that translates to at Stars.

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I see those bonuses I listed aren't the greatest deals at 1.14 cents and 1.3 cents per FPP.

What are my best deals I should go for?

I play mostly NL100 and NL200 and was earning ~$1,500 rakeback monthly at Full Tilt and am not sure how many FPP monthly that translates to at Stars.

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How many hands do you play a month normally? Be easier to give you estimate for FPP's off that.

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SuperNova at 100000VPP/year you can buy $1000 bonus for 100,000 FPP.

As you said, each level accumulates points faster than the previous level.

There are also milestone bonuses for those that play enough to surpass 100,000 VPP in a year. They are:

$2,000 at 200kVPP
$3,000 at 300kVPP
$4,000 at 400kVPP
$5,000 at 500kVPP

and they go up from there. Each milestone bonus costs 50kFPP though, which is basically $750.

There is also the concierge service that allows you to purchase items that are not in the FPP Store. When using this service you actually get a better rate than you would just purchasing the bonuses. Players have gotten such things as watches and big screen TVs amongst other things.

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thats a <font color="blue"> </font> $1500 <font color="blue"> </font> bonus for 100,000 FPP's, a typo im sure, but the rest of the info is right

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I think around 50,000 hands at NL100 should be the guesstimate.

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SuperNova at 100000VPP/year you can buy $1000 bonus for 100,000 FPP.

As you said, each level accumulates points faster than the previous level.

There are also milestone bonuses for those that play enough to surpass 100,000 VPP in a year. They are:

$2,000 at 200kVPP
$3,000 at 300kVPP
$4,000 at 400kVPP
$5,000 at 500kVPP

and they go up from there. Each milestone bonus costs 50kFPP though, which is basically $750.

There is also the concierge service that allows you to purchase items that are not in the FPP Store. When using this service you actually get a better rate than you would just purchasing the bonuses. Players have gotten such things as watches and big screen TVs amongst other things.

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thats a <font color="blue"> </font> $1500 <font color="blue"> </font> bonus for 100,000 FPP's, a typo im sure, but the rest of the info is right

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Oops. Typo. Thanks for correcting.

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I think around 50,000 hands at NL100 should be the guesstimate.

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50k hands a month at NL100 probably yield about 22-23k VPP's per month. You would make Platinum of course in less than two weeks, so you would be making 55k+ FPP's a month.

After making Nova, which would take approx. 4 1/2 months, you would be getting 77k+ FPPs/month at that amount of play.

Bad thing about starting there now is you probably won't make it by Dec. 31st and it restarts on 1/1/08. If you mix in a decent amount of NL200 play in, you could probably make it at 50k hands a month.

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I guess I will just go for Platinum this year, because I will still play at Full Tilt as well.

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I keep hearing people talk about getting maximum value out of their FPP's by using them for SnG entries of some kind. I've searched, and can't seem to come up with what they are referring to.

Anyone have any more details on what folks are doing, and in particular, why this is so heavily favored compared to the cash bonuses?

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they're talking about sng satellites to the sunday million. they are 10 person sats for 5400 fpps each, and the top 4 make the "money" and get an entry into the sunday million, but what a lot of people do is unregister for the tourney and take the 215 $T, which can be used in any tourney or sng. if you can make more than 40% ITM theyre a better return, but obviously the time invested counts for something as well, so thats up to you whether its worth it or not.

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they're talking about sng satellites to the sunday million. they are 10 person sats for 5400 fpps each, and the top 4 make the "money" and get an entry into the sunday million, but what a lot of people do is unregister for the tourney and take the 215 $T, which can be used in any tourney or sng. if you can make more than 40% ITM theyre a better return, but obviously the time invested counts for something as well, so thats up to you whether its worth it or not.

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actually i was messing with the math of this today.

100,000fpps for a $1500 cash bonus @ supernova.

u get 18.5 5400fpps sat entries for 100,000fpps

winning 7 seats gets u $1505. thats only a 38% success rate. (7/18.5)

with 4 outta 10 getting seats (40%), u need to be just a break even player to win enough to justify not taking the cash bonus and trying for more.

i'm 8 for 12 in these sats, so unless i owe my bookie $1500 or he's breaking bones, i'm not taking the cash bonus.

as for the time- they are turbos. ~30 min. knock one out while watching an ALF rerun.

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i never understood the logic behind the satellites. why not just give us the money and save us the variance? competing for rakeback seems a bit silly. let us buy the tournament tickets and sell them.

am i missing some super duper obvious concept?

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yes, that Stars doesn't and won't do rakeback.

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On sites that do rakeback can anyone get it or do you only get it if you sign up via a special offer of some kind?

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i never understood the logic behind the satellites. why not just give us the money and save us the variance? competing for rakeback seems a bit silly. let us buy the tournament tickets and sell them.

am i missing some super duper obvious concept?

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You can buy tickets to the Sunday Million with FPPs. I believe tickets to the $215's are 13,500 FPP. Just check the FPP store. I'm not sure if you can sell the tickets though.

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You can't sell or transfer them.