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Mark Seif 09-17-2007 05:04 AM

The truth behind the Absolute & Togni fiascos
 
I am appalled at the accusations regarding me lately.
People saying I am embroiled in a "high stakes cheating controversy", all because of a stupid game between me and Togni a while back. WELL ALL YOUR ACCUSATIONS ARE FALSE, AND I HAVE <u>PROOF</u>.

When me and Togni we playing that now infamous game, I had a small bad streak that put me on tilt. Laugh away if you wish, but that's the truth, and yes, I was clearly mad. I knew I needed a break for a hand or two, and needed to regain my composure. So I did what I usually do to alleviate my tilt, I switched my video camera on, and recorded myself play. I've noticed this has helped me tremedously in online play, as it has:

a) Plugged multiple leaks in my game.
and
b) Reduced severe tilt, as I know I'll be scrutinizing my play later on.

I HAVE MY WHOLE $120k RETURN HEATER ON VIDEO-
the quality is decent, at some times the bet amounts aren't 100% clear, but my hole cards, and ONLY my hole cards, can clearly be shown. Video.

Take it for what it's worth, but this is going to be my one and ONLY post here. I don't have to explain myself to anyone here any further.

Thanks to all my fans &amp; believers, FU to the haters,
-MS

ASPoker8 09-17-2007 05:05 AM

Re: The truth behind the Absolute & Togni fiascos
 
lame

FoldEqu1ty 09-17-2007 05:07 AM

Re: The truth behind the Absolute & Togni fiascos
 
Wow I didn't even click the link, but I'm 99% sure that's just a really bad rickroll.

F---

Insta-ban.

N 82 50 24 09-17-2007 05:11 AM

Re: The truth behind the Absolute & Togni fiascos
 
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Wow I didn't even click the link, but I'm 99% sure that's just a really bad rickroll.

F---

Insta-ban.

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There's no way Mark Seif either

a) records sessions on video
b) knows how to put it up on youtube
c) would put it up on youtube if he had it

Python49 09-17-2007 05:11 AM

Re: The truth behind the Absolute & Togni fiascos
 
Ban/Lock

BowToYourSensei 09-17-2007 05:13 AM

Re: The truth behind the Absolute & Togni fiascos
 
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x...ightee/her.jpg

Conspire 09-17-2007 05:15 AM

Re: The truth behind the Absolute & Togni fiascos
 
I wish u could only have 1 account on 2p2......So many retarded gimmicks......

mugatu668 09-17-2007 05:19 AM

Re: The truth behind the Absolute & Togni fiascos
 
gayh

ASPoker8 09-17-2007 05:19 AM

Re: The truth behind the Absolute & Togni fiascos
 
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1st page in legendary thread

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[x] no

mugatu668 09-17-2007 05:21 AM

Re: The truth behind the Absolute & Togni fiascos
 
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1st page in legendary thread

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[x] no

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god damnit, i wasted my 1,000 post on that

xTheKidx 09-17-2007 05:26 AM

Re: The truth behind the Absolute & Togni fiascos
 
Can anybody please post a Link of the "Absolute Fiasco"?I read a couple Times about that,but I dont know nothing about that.

Thx

btmagnetw 09-17-2007 05:30 AM

Re: The truth behind the Absolute & Togni fiascos
 
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Thanks to all my fans &amp; believers

[/ QUOTE ]this is the part that gave it away

Gospy 09-17-2007 05:31 AM

Re: The truth behind the Absolute & Togni fiascos
 
Yea, this had potential until the last line.

keikiwai 09-17-2007 05:35 AM

Re: The truth behind the Absolute & Togni fiascos
 
[ QUOTE ]
Wow I didn't even click the link, but I'm 99% sure that's just a really bad rickroll.

F---

Insta-ban.

[/ QUOTE ]

Reading the OP didn't convince, but I'll have to say that after watching the video, I think he is telling the truth.

lippy 09-17-2007 06:01 AM

Re: The truth behind the Absolute & Togni fiascos
 
This is so bad. Not remotely funny/entertaining. Bleh.

"When me and Togni"

...

NobleNobleNoble 09-17-2007 09:00 AM

Re: The truth behind the Absolute & Togni fiascos
 
This is probably not Mark Seiff,

but if it was that would be the dumbest thing he could do..
"So I did what I usually do to alleviate my tilt, I switched my video camera on, and recorded myself play."

What other player does this? They can look at their hand histories even record the video on computer if need be.
The only reason to record yourself actually playing on the computer would be so that you could use it as evidence that you werent cheating?

"at some times the bet amounts aren't 100% clear, but my hole cards, and ONLY my hole cards, can clearly be shown"

Clearly bet amounts are unlikely to be clear from a video camera recording a computer screen, hence the uselesness of using this as method of reviewing and scrutinizing play or controlling tilt. The only reason to record it would be - "my hole cards, and ONLY my hole cards, can clearly be shown"

To try to prove that you werent cheating at a later date.
(Though of course the regulars doubt this is Mark Seiff, which is probably right)

TheWorm967 09-17-2007 09:06 AM

Re: The truth behind the Absolute & Togni fiascos
 
how did i not see that coming [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

McSeafield 09-17-2007 09:34 AM

Re: The truth behind the Absolute & Togni fiascos
 
Sorry, I canīt find any truth behind something ...

PJo336 09-17-2007 09:37 AM

Re: The truth behind the Absolute & Togni fiascos
 
lol at people acting serious about this

McSeafield 09-17-2007 09:46 AM

Re: The truth behind the Absolute & Togni fiascos
 
You got Rick (rigged) rolled. Or not?

Jackal69 09-17-2007 09:46 AM

Re: The truth behind the Absolute & Togni fiascos
 
did anyone click on that link yet? cmon, take one for the team!

PJo336 09-17-2007 09:47 AM

Re: The truth behind the Absolute & Togni fiascos
 
im on a lab comp, im going in

XCEO 09-17-2007 09:48 AM

Re: The truth behind the Absolute & Togni fiascos
 
[ QUOTE ]
This is probably not Mark Seiff,

but if it was that would be the dumbest thing he could do..
"So I did what I usually do to alleviate my tilt, I switched my video camera on, and recorded myself play."

What other player does this? They can look at their hand histories even record the video on computer if need be.
The only reason to record yourself actually playing on the computer would be so that you could use it as evidence that you werent cheating?

"at some times the bet amounts aren't 100% clear, but my hole cards, and ONLY my hole cards, can clearly be shown"

Clearly bet amounts are unlikely to be clear from a video camera recording a computer screen, hence the uselesness of using this as method of reviewing and scrutinizing play or controlling tilt. The only reason to record it would be - "my hole cards, and ONLY my hole cards, can clearly be shown"

To try to prove that you werent cheating at a later date.
(Though of course the regulars doubt this is Mark Seiff, which is probably right)

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lol

Gildwulf 09-17-2007 09:49 AM

Re: The truth behind the Absolute & Togni fiascos
 
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This is probably not Mark Seiff,

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nice deductive powers, Sherlock

ClubChamp04 09-17-2007 09:49 AM

Re: The truth behind the Absolute & Togni fiascos
 
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im on a lab comp, im going in

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LOL, let us know what it is.

PJo336 09-17-2007 09:51 AM

Re: The truth behind the Absolute & Togni fiascos
 
im not sure i want to admit i was rickrolld, but cmon, how amazing would it be if it really was mark seif and he rickrolld people?

McSeafield 09-17-2007 09:52 AM

Re: The truth behind the Absolute & Togni fiascos
 
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You got Rick (rigged) rolled. Or not?

[/ QUOTE ]

Imrahil 09-17-2007 09:54 AM

Re: The truth behind the Absolute & Togni fiascos
 
I clicked and got rickrolled but it takes so long to load up that I can exit without seeing Rick Astley.

PJo336 09-17-2007 09:56 AM

Re: The truth behind the Absolute & Togni fiascos
 
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I clicked and got rickrolled but it takes so long to load up that I can exit without seeing Rick Astley.

[/ QUOTE ]

beat: [censored] internet?

variance: same here

xjimraketex 09-17-2007 10:09 AM

Re: The truth behind the Absolute & Togni fiascos
 
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This is probably not Mark Seiff,


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stopped reading, started laughing
http://www.magicdragon.com/SherlockH...rlockSmall.gif
edit: damn you gildwulf!
note to myself: start reading last page before posting!

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im not sure i want to admit i was rickrolld, but cmon, how amazing would it be if it really was mark seif and he rickrolld people?

[/ QUOTE ]
haha oh yeah, yu are so damn right!
that would be gold!

Daddy Warbucks 09-17-2007 10:09 AM

Re: The truth behind the Absolute & Togni fiascos
 
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[ QUOTE ]
This is probably not Mark Seiff,

[/ QUOTE ]

nice deductive powers, Sherlock

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Easy for you to say when you can just use your mod powers to check IP's, we still have to rely on our street smarts!

McSeafield 09-17-2007 10:10 AM

Re: The truth behind the Absolute & Togni fiascos
 
Some people need a bit longer, some others do it thisway:

[img=http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/de/thumb/1/17/Nikko_drei_Affen.jpg/800px-Nikko_drei_Affen.jpg[/img]

xjimraketex 09-17-2007 10:12 AM

Re: The truth behind the Absolute & Togni fiascos
 
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Some people need a bit longer, some others do it thisway:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...drei_Affen.jpg

Stake Monster 09-17-2007 10:13 AM

Re: The truth behind the Absolute & Togni fiascos
 
Even if it was him and the video of him playing was legit it wouldn't prove anything. The other players' hole cards could very likely be shown in another format, in another window on the side.

And if it was in text format it could easily explain the weird calls (misreads) those players made when they were clearly losing. It would also explain the 5 seconds those players took preflop to make decisions each time.

SlowHabit 09-17-2007 10:20 AM

Re: The truth behind the Absolute & Togni fiascos
 
Dammmmmmmmmmmmnnnnnnnnn itttttttttttttt.

Ganjasaurus Rex 09-17-2007 10:30 AM

Re: The truth behind the Absolute & Togni fiascos
 
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This is probably not Mark Seiff,



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http://drinkingliberally.org/blogs/o...sh%20laugh.jpg
"At last! Someone who is dumberer than me!"

xjimraketex 09-17-2007 10:31 AM

Re: The truth behind the Absolute & Togni fiascos
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
This is probably not Mark Seiff,



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http://drinkingliberally.org/blogs/o...sh%20laugh.jpg

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nah thats one of the monkeys from above?

ImsaKidd 09-17-2007 10:36 AM

Re: The truth behind the Absolute & Togni fiascos
 
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This is probably not Mark Seif

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But his account name is Mark Seif? Can you just lie on the internet like that?

Gildwulf 09-17-2007 10:46 AM

Re: The truth behind the Absolute & Togni fiascos
 
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[ QUOTE ]
This is probably not Mark Seif

[/ QUOTE ]

But his account name is Mark Seif? Can you just lie on the internet like that?

[/ QUOTE ]

lol yours was better

Under dog 09-17-2007 10:51 AM

Re: The truth behind the Absolute & Togni fiascos
 
Did anyone notice when they clicked on the link that it was one of those Rick Roll videos that were doing the rounds for a while there?

I thought it was going to be a vidoe of Mark playing cards on the internet


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