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JbruNation 09-16-2007 11:27 PM

monday night game?
 
Anyone have advice for the Monday night game? need to make up some ground after that saints lose. Need some help.

psuasskicker 09-16-2007 11:48 PM

Re: monday night game?
 
I don't like it enough to bet it but I like u38.5 in this one.

- C -

rjp 09-17-2007 12:37 AM

Re: monday night game?
 
Get a hooker instead. You're likely to end up with more satisfaction.

IggyWH 09-17-2007 12:51 AM

Re: monday night game?
 
If I "had" to, I'd take Washington getting the points (+7 on Sportsbook). The under does look somewhat nice also. However, I'm staying away from this one.

YTD : 7-3 +6.0u

oooLostkid 09-17-2007 01:31 PM

Re: monday night game?
 
Im thinking the same thing i need to make up from this past weekend!
I dont like the points spread at all
I like the UNDER i believe but also i see on Bodog that if i take The Redskins to win striaght up its +250

But i cant decide if im better off going with the Under on the game or Reskins for the Win forgetting the points

psuasskicker 09-17-2007 02:04 PM

Re: monday night game?
 
This thread looks like slowly but surely it's turning into a "how not to manage your bankroll" thread...

Very seriously, you two newbies need to think about going straight here. You both sound like you got in over your heads this weekend and are desperate to get out from a hole so you're looking to take bad bets for the quick fix.

Almost no one on this board which is filled with both BSPs and sharps has mentioned any line in this game they feel is worth betting. That's a pretty clear indication there's no real EV+ to be found, and I shouldn't have to be the one saying that betting to try to force your way even or at least start making up a loss is a horrible, horrible idea.

Seriously, get yourself REAL help. Real help is not suggestions on which team to bet to make up for huge losses.

- C -

Alzee 09-17-2007 02:12 PM

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This thread looks like slowly but surely it's turning into a "how not to manage your bankroll" thread...

Very seriously, you two newbies need to think about going straight here. You both sound like you got in over your heads this weekend and are desperate to get out from a hole so you're looking to take bad bets for the quick fix.

Almost no one on this board which is filled with both BSPs and sharps has mentioned any line in this game they feel is worth betting. That's a pretty clear indication there's no real EV+ to be found, and I shouldn't have to be the one saying that betting to try to force your way even or at least start making up a loss is a horrible, horrible idea.

Seriously, get yourself REAL help. Real help is not suggestions on which team to bet to make up for huge losses.

- C -

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Wow, could you come across a little more arrogant? lol

livin_a_lie 09-17-2007 02:17 PM

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Almost no one on this board which is filled with both BSPs and sharps has mentioned any line in this game they feel is worth betting. That's a pretty clear indication there's no real EV+ to be found

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That's pretty ridiculous.

ActionTodd 09-17-2007 02:25 PM

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If I "had" to, I'd take Washington getting the points (+7 on Sportsbook). The under does look somewhat nice also. However, I'm staying away from this one.

YTD : 7-3 +6.0u

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I'm with you on this one
if I "had" to I'll take 'skins +7 & u39

but will stay away the same

I had NYG/DAL o44 last MN

David BB 09-17-2007 02:32 PM

Re: monday night game?
 
Partybets has a no juice moneyline bet on this game.

Eagles 1.37 (-270)
Redskins 3.70 (+270)

Down from 1.35/3.80 last night.

Must be some value here?

patrickf3 09-17-2007 02:40 PM

Re: monday night game?
 
reds +250 is ok i think...i may lay 1u on it

johnnylovescandy 09-17-2007 03:43 PM

Re: monday night game?
 
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Anyone have advice for the Monday night game? need to make up some ground after that saints lose. Need some help.

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settling up with your bookie tomorrow???

CutCreator 09-17-2007 04:01 PM

Re: monday night game?
 
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This thread looks like slowly but surely it's turning into a "how not to manage your bankroll" thread...

Very seriously, you two newbies need to think about going straight here. You both sound like you got in over your heads this weekend and are desperate to get out from a hole so you're looking to take bad bets for the quick fix.

Almost no one on this board which is filled with both BSPs and sharps has mentioned any line in this game they feel is worth betting. That's a pretty clear indication there's no real EV+ to be found, and I shouldn't have to be the one saying that betting to try to force your way even or at least start making up a loss is a horrible, horrible idea.

Seriously, get yourself REAL help. Real help is not suggestions on which team to bet to make up for huge losses.

- C -

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lol @ link to gamblers anonymous. classic.

i got owned this weekend and i dont like the game so im not betting. in fact i am reading Wong's book before betting another game. should be here soon.

TJL 09-17-2007 04:19 PM

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For the record...

I bet the Eagles and the over because it seems like everyone is on the redskins and the under.....

I guess tonight will make an interesting message board

Tyler Durden 09-17-2007 04:26 PM

Re: monday night game?
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
This thread looks like slowly but surely it's turning into a "how not to manage your bankroll" thread...

Very seriously, you two newbies need to think about going straight here. You both sound like you got in over your heads this weekend and are desperate to get out from a hole so you're looking to take bad bets for the quick fix.

Almost no one on this board which is filled with both BSPs and sharps has mentioned any line in this game they feel is worth betting. That's a pretty clear indication there's no real EV+ to be found, and I shouldn't have to be the one saying that betting to try to force your way even or at least start making up a loss is a horrible, horrible idea.

Seriously, get yourself REAL help. Real help is not suggestions on which team to bet to make up for huge losses.

- C -

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Wow, could you come across a little more arrogant? lol

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It didn't seem arrogant to me. I thought his message was 100% spot on.

rush66 09-17-2007 04:27 PM

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For the record...

I bet the Eagles and the over because it seems like everyone is on the redskins and the under.....

I guess tonight will make an interesting message board

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Umm, the majority is not on the redskins. 67% according to SI and 60% according to covers. About even on the O/U.

Skins would be the play in my book.

27offsuit 09-17-2007 04:28 PM

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Anyone have advice for the Monday night game? need to make up some ground after that saints lose. Need some help.

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That's what the Patriots were for.
That ship has sailed, however. Flip a coin or fade Indiana.

Actually, I like WSH straight up, but that is a tough bet to make as a bailout play. Even getting 6-7.

I just don't see PHI winning by more than 7 if they win at all.

TJL 09-17-2007 04:29 PM

Re: monday night game?
 
since when is 67% and 60 % not a majority?

And I was talking about the " majority of posters"

But thanks for the stats

coolmoedee 09-17-2007 04:30 PM

Re: monday night game?
 
If the eagles cover 7.5 I win my 15 man pool for the week (vs spread) I'm going to win it with 8 correct picks so you know it was a tough week on everyone.

27offsuit 09-17-2007 04:31 PM

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I don't like it enough to bet it but I like u38.5 in this one.

- C -

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Either bet the over on SNF and MNF or lay off completely, IMO.
Regardless of the line.

MicroBob 09-17-2007 04:42 PM

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since when is 67% and 60 % not a majority?

And I was talking about the " majority of posters"

But thanks for the stats

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I just checked covers.
60% is on Philly which I guess is what he meant.

Cammoonacashun skillllzzz ftw!!!

Austiger 09-17-2007 04:50 PM

Re: monday night game?
 
Welcome back Indiana.

MicroBob 09-17-2007 04:56 PM

Re: monday night game?
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
This thread looks like slowly but surely it's turning into a "how not to manage your bankroll" thread...

Very seriously, you two newbies need to think about going straight here. You both sound like you got in over your heads this weekend and are desperate to get out from a hole so you're looking to take bad bets for the quick fix.

Almost no one on this board which is filled with both BSPs and sharps has mentioned any line in this game they feel is worth betting. That's a pretty clear indication there's no real EV+ to be found, and I shouldn't have to be the one saying that betting to try to force your way even or at least start making up a loss is a horrible, horrible idea.

Seriously, get yourself REAL help. Real help is not suggestions on which team to bet to make up for huge losses.

- C -

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Wow, could you come across a little more arrogant? lol

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It didn't seem arrogant to me. I thought his message was 100% spot on.

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me too fwiw.
All the talk of "have to make it back tonight" etc etc is completely contrary to what we should want this forum to be about imo which mostly is discussion of +EV opportunities and methods in sports-betting.
Maybe that kind of silly talk is okay for the chatter thread though.

kaboshedx 09-17-2007 05:00 PM

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If the eagles cover 7.5 I win my 15 man pool for the week (vs spread) I'm going to win it with 8 correct picks so you know it was a tough week on everyone.

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it was a tough week for the public, [censored] incredible week for sharps

Morphling29 09-17-2007 06:28 PM

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If the eagles cover 7.5 I win my 15 man pool for the week (vs spread) I'm going to win it with 8 correct picks so you know it was a tough week on everyone.

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it was a tough week for the public, [censored] incredible week for sharps

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Waiting for someone to say this.

Great week for people that love getting 7.5 to 11 points againts average teams.

rush66 09-17-2007 06:35 PM

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since when is 67% and 60 % not a majority?

And I was talking about the " majority of posters"

But thanks for the stats

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I just checked covers.
60% is on Philly which I guess is what he meant.

Cammoonacashun skillllzzz ftw!!!

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Yea, thanks...Im a moron.

On Wash +4 1h, officially.

David BB 09-17-2007 07:07 PM

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Umm, the majority is not on the redskins. 67% according to SI and 60% according to covers. About even on the O/U.

Skins would be the play in my book.

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Where do you get those numbers from?

IggyWH 09-17-2007 07:21 PM

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[ QUOTE ]
For the record...

I bet the Eagles and the over because it seems like everyone is on the redskins and the under.....

I guess tonight will make an interesting message board

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Umm, the majority is not on the redskins. 67% according to SI and 60% according to covers. About even on the O/U.

Skins would be the play in my book.

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I saw in my spam folder that Sportsbook sent me an email claiming that 75% was on the under. Is this just a ploy to get more money on the under or is this legit?

CutCreator 09-17-2007 07:23 PM

Re: monday night game?
 
i assume covers.com or wagerline.com.

so im not betting the game, however i am trying to learn how the sharps think.

so here is what i am wondering: the line opened at 6, got bet up to 7, and then back down to 6.5. based on covers.com at 7:19pm 59.75% are on the eagles. if the odds makers thought the redskins would not cover wouldn't the line have gone up or is 59.75% not enough to warrant that since 40% or so are on the skins?

sanmarcosrun1 09-17-2007 07:25 PM

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It is a ploy. They are huge on giving out false info to get squares to take the worst of it.

rush66 09-17-2007 07:44 PM

Re: monday night game?
 
I get what I consider reliable info from Sportsinsights. I just check covers/wagerline to make sure they arent claiming some [censored]...like 75% on the under.

David BB 09-17-2007 08:18 PM

Re: monday night game?
 
Skins are up to 3.85 (+285) at Party now.

MicroBob 09-17-2007 08:31 PM

Re: monday night game?
 
I really like the Skins on that ML.
PHI isn't exactly a SB contender and WAS does seem to be getting a little better and certainly has a fighting chance in this game.

PropPlayer 09-17-2007 08:32 PM

Re: monday night game?
 
Options:
Moneyline: Skins have best value.
Point Spread: Eagles have most value

Also this is a case where if you like the Eagles teasing a 6.5 point favorite down to -0.5 has some argument for being a good bet. Its a lot better than betting the Eagles ML as well as its better than the consensus odds. If you can get +100 on 2 team 6 point teasers (BetPop etc.) then its not a bad play.

The bets I think are silly are Eagles ML and Skins +6.5 or even +7. +7.5 buying the points not so bad if at a decent price. I see 5 Dimes has them shaded to +106 I haven't tried to see the pricing on 1/2 points right now there but +7.5 -116 would not be bad either.

livin_a_lie 09-17-2007 08:34 PM

Re: monday night game?
 
Westbrook over 88.5 rushing yards

Why?

Just cuz

alwardc4 09-17-2007 08:37 PM

Re: monday night game?
 
Randle El u3.5 catches.

Westbrook o5.5 catches

IggyWH 09-17-2007 10:14 PM

Re: monday night game?
 
'Skins +5.5 second half? Hmmmmmm

NajdorfDefense 09-17-2007 10:16 PM

Re: monday night game?
 
Skins +6/-110 2nd half

sanmarcosrun1 09-17-2007 10:17 PM

Re: monday night game?
 
Yeah "WTF" was my first thought then it was "place bet or wait for public to jump on Eagles to push it to +6?" I am waiting minute now to see if it happens...so far so good.

NajdorfDefense 09-17-2007 10:18 PM

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I really like the Skins on that ML.

PHI isn't exactly a SB contender ....

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It's the NFC, every non 0-2 team is a SB contenda.


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