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too eazy 09-16-2007 08:37 PM

200NL Stat Check Please
 
Hi, I decided to play some full ring (I'm a six max player) just to get a little better at it and to 12-table and rack up some FPP's because I'm moving soon and want a TV. I was wondering if you guys could help dissect some of the stats I've displayed here and let me know if anything here seems crooked or anything. W$WSF and W$SD seem odd to me, how does this compare to the average? Thanks for any input guys, I appreciate it.

http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/6...lringdbut7.jpg

bottomset 09-16-2007 08:42 PM

Re: 200NL Stat Check Please
 
lol

you are a clown

GrandMelon 09-16-2007 08:49 PM

Re: 200NL Stat Check Please
 
http://lolcats.com/images/u/07/22/lo...ktz93zav8f.jpg

illini43 09-16-2007 08:55 PM

Re: 200NL Stat Check Please
 
Win more $ at showdown.

Don't pay so much rake.

BT2 09-16-2007 08:55 PM

Re: 200NL Stat Check Please
 
haha

this is silly

the stats you are showing us are meaningless without all the other stats.

Damntra 09-16-2007 08:56 PM

Re: 200NL Stat Check Please
 
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haha

this is silly

the stats you are showing us are meaningless without all the other stats.

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Ya think? http://www.rhythmism.com/images/smilies/lol.gif

ranka 09-16-2007 09:00 PM

Re: 200NL Stat Check Please
 
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Win more $ at showdown.

Don't pay so much rake.

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LOOOL! ROFL! MORE similar comments! [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

too eazy 09-16-2007 09:25 PM

Re: 200NL Stat Check Please
 
i'm asking out of what shown is anything abnormal.

i dont really get what is so funny about hiding vpip/pfr/aggression it's not really relevant.

coordi 09-16-2007 09:27 PM

Re: 200NL Stat Check Please
 
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i'm asking out of what shown is anything abnormal.

i dont really get what is so funny about hiding vpip/pfr/aggression it's not really relevant.

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Your running hot

chicken10der 09-16-2007 09:31 PM

Re: 200NL Stat Check Please
 
shittalking:gamelevel ratio is pretty high

too eazy 09-16-2007 09:31 PM

Re: 200NL Stat Check Please
 
Listen, all I want to know is what the standard full ring solid W$WSF and Went to SD numbers are and if I'm doing anything nutty.

Sigh.

Thanks for the help.

Can see why this forum attracts so many insightful players.

crunny 09-16-2007 09:33 PM

Re: 200NL Stat Check Please
 
won @ SD seems a little low. I think it should be over 50%.
Perhaps you are attempting to pick off too many bluffs?

Also, I dont get how VPIP is irrelevant to your question yet $ won and ptbb is? Thinly disguised brag post perhaps?

Mr_Donktastic 09-16-2007 09:33 PM

Re: 200NL Stat Check Please
 
I still can't tell if you're leveling.

RyanCMU 09-16-2007 09:41 PM

Re: 200NL Stat Check Please
 
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Thinly disguised brag post perhaps?

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QFT

coordi 09-16-2007 09:49 PM

Re: 200NL Stat Check Please
 
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I still can't tell if you're leveling.

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obv level/brag

too eazy 09-16-2007 09:49 PM

Re: 200NL Stat Check Please
 
i'm not levelling or bragging.

i fail to see how the amount of hands i play or how aggressively relates to what standard numbers are for W$WSF and Went to Showdown.

No matter how many hands I play, the % of hands I win on the flop is still a number relative to the total number of hands I play whether its 50 or 600,000. Same goes for went to showdown %.

Right?

Kos13 09-16-2007 09:51 PM

Re: 200NL Stat Check Please
 
[ QUOTE ]
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Thinly disguised brag post perhaps?

[/ QUOTE ]
QFT

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This is anything but thinly disguised. It's the only reason he made this thread.

too eazy 09-16-2007 09:56 PM

Re: 200NL Stat Check Please
 
i really feel like im in another dimension right now.

a 4.6ptbb 50k hand sample is not a brag at all

GrandMelon 09-16-2007 09:56 PM

Re: 200NL Stat Check Please
 
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Can see why this forum attracts so many insightful players.

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Cmon if you did this in MSNL you would get ripped apart.

too eazy 09-16-2007 09:58 PM

Re: 200NL Stat Check Please
 
Well, that statement wouldn't apply to MSNL so it would be deserved, no?

GrandMelon 09-16-2007 10:04 PM

Re: 200NL Stat Check Please
 
thats not what i meant, nvm

anyway

W$WSF seems ok, cant remember what mine is exactly but its close to yours

W@SD seems kinda low

you're winning at a decent clip so I wouldnt change much

oober 09-16-2007 10:06 PM

Re: 200NL Stat Check Please
 
Looks fine, I run ~22wtsd% and ~58%w$sd...

But why is your PTBB/100 so low? This is FR baby, you should be ~12ptbb/100...

6max ptbb/100 is so funny!!!!!!

too eazy 09-16-2007 10:07 PM

Re: 200NL Stat Check Please
 
thanks melon. what about went to showdown? basically this post isn't a brag but more so wondering if my W$SD is from running poor or from going to showdown too often (via bluffing the wrong people or calling too thin, although i don't bluff often so it is probably the latter if i am indeed seeing showdown too often)

too eazy 09-16-2007 10:07 PM

Re: 200NL Stat Check Please
 
oober i'm a 6m player and this is my shot at full ring. the image is a full ring sample...

oober 09-16-2007 10:09 PM

Re: 200NL Stat Check Please
 
LOL, wow no sense of humor!!!

We roll different here...

PTBB/100 looks good too, no one here would be upset with that #.

too eazy 09-16-2007 10:13 PM

Re: 200NL Stat Check Please
 
ahh im real sorry im not a first language english speaker and i guess im confusing and misunderstanding everyone

holdem2000 09-16-2007 10:20 PM

Re: 200NL Stat Check Please
 
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i fail to see how the amount of hands i play or how aggressively relates to what standard numbers are for W$WSF and Went to Showdown.

No matter how many hands I play, the % of hands I win on the flop is still a number relative to the total number of hands I play whether its 50 or 600,000. Same goes for went to showdown %.

Right?

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VPIP and to a lesser extent PFR are relevant to your showdown stats. If you're seeing every flop with A2C you can't expect to see a showdown 25% of your flops and win half your showdowns.

The stats you displayed seem fine.

oober 09-16-2007 10:34 PM

Re: 200NL Stat Check Please
 
Nah we understand, welcome to the forum!!!!!

Be careful with the use of sorry around here. You will get flamed. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

CalledDownLight 09-17-2007 12:14 AM

Re: 200NL Stat Check Please
 
I'd probably try to up my W$SD to 100% and WTSD to 100% also, but thats only if you like money.

Kos13 09-17-2007 12:46 AM

Re: 200NL Stat Check Please
 
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I'd probably try to up my W$SD to 100% and WTSD to 100% also, but thats only if you like money.

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It took 28 replies, but someone finally said it. Well done, sir.

jetsetboy 09-17-2007 06:16 AM

Re: 200NL Stat Check Please
 
It's allways fun to see that good poker players can have absolutely no clue about stats:
_ I am playing 1/1/165230 (just AA/KK/QQ) my W$SD is 80% because nobody has adjust correctly and my W$wSF is 90%
_ I am playing 90/80/4 my W$SD is 33% and my W$wSF is 20%

Do u understand WHY W$SD, W$WSF and WTSD are strongly related?

Furthermore u should indicate on which site u are playing because metagame can have a huge effect on these stats. For example I can tell u that my stats on PS and my stats on PP are quite different because regulars are much less agro on PP than on PS.

MrBump 09-17-2007 09:05 AM

Re: 200NL Stat Check Please
 
You are too passive on the button.

HTH

RiverMustelid 09-17-2007 09:27 AM

Re: 200NL Stat Check Please
 
Is it just me or does the Game Level stat of NL ($2) reveal quite a lot here?

I'm also intrigued by a bad beat jackpot contribution of $0. My main comment is that you will be sad if your quad 8s get beaten.

I also find it strange that English is not your first language, but you don't play at party poker (as revealed by the 2 stats above). yet you are a 6 max player. You may be missing value here.

too eazy 09-17-2007 10:17 AM

Re: 200NL Stat Check Please
 
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Is it just me or does the Game Level stat of NL ($2) reveal quite a lot here?

I'm also intrigued by a bad beat jackpot contribution of $0. My main comment is that you will be sad if your quad 8s get beaten.

I also find it strange that English is not your first language, but you don't play at party poker (as revealed by the 2 stats above). yet you are a 6 max player. You may be missing value here.

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What does game level $2 reveal quite a lot mean?

And it is possible I'm fairly sure to be living in USA but not having English as your primary language.

Also; party is rigged.

boston 09-17-2007 10:40 AM

Re: 200NL Stat Check Please
 
http://www.amazon.com/Rosetta-Stone-Engl...9925&sr=8-1

Frank Zappy 09-17-2007 11:38 AM

Re: 200NL Stat Check Please
 
It's obvious that you're a Poker God so I suggest you:

1. Write a book called "Win Like a Poker God"

2. See if you can open for Led Zeppelin at the Ahmet Tribute in November


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