There must be a better line... (TT shorthanded again)
 

Don't know what it is with me and TT in the SB [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]. Anyway, don't have to many hands on Villain, but he seems a bit loose, reasonably aggressive preflop, and likes to donk and even double donk TP. Button is very loose and quite aggressive.
.05/.1 game, 5-handed.
Hero in SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

Preflop: Villain raises, 1 fold, Button calls, Hero treys, BB folds, Villain caps, Button calls, Hero calls.

Flop (13 SB): 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
Villain bets, BTN folds, Hero calls.

Turn (7.5 BB): 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
Villain bets, Hero calls.

River (9.5 BB): K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
Villain bets, Hero?

Comments on all postflop streets appreciated.

Re: There must be a better line... (TT shorthanded again)
 

Raise the flop for value/information, making your villains pay for any kind of draw they might be on -- or really you'll find out just how far behind you are here as well, probably. Since you didn't raise the flop and don't know where you really are in the hand, I suppose just calling down to showdown your pocket tens is fine.. though all we are really beating here is AKs/AKo in all liklihood, and even then they just hit on the river.

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We don't beat AK after the river.

r/c flop, fold turn unless a T or 8 hits.

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How agressive is villain preflop ?

You said that he was reasonably agressive, but have you seen him cap pf without having a premium hand. ie QQ+ or AK ?

Without that read, I am inclined to think that you are beaten on the river.

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How agressive is villain preflop ?

You said that he was reasonably agressive, but have you seen him cap pf without having a premium hand. ie QQ+ or AK ?

Without that read, I am inclined to think that you are beaten on the river.

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First time I've seen him cap preflop, but it's only been about 20 hands or so. The river does put me behind his entire range however. Is it worth raising either the flop or turn?

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How agressive is villain preflop ?

You said that he was reasonably agressive, but have you seen him cap pf without having a premium hand. ie QQ+ or AK ?

Without that read, I am inclined to think that you are beaten on the river.

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First time I've seen him cap preflop, but it's only been about 20 hands or so. The river does put me behind his entire range however. Is it worth raising either the flop or turn?

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sure - depending on how aggro the guy is with overs

Re: There must be a better line... (TT shorthanded again)
 

I dont think that you need to raise the flop, once you become heads up.

It will become more expensive to see a showdown if you are behind to JJ+, and you should not mind your opponent continuing to bet into you with OC's.

Dont fold the turn, when you could easily have the best hand.

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I don't think we need to raise the flop for information. We know villain has what he thinks is a super premium hand ... And probably is since op didn't mention an exceptional capping range. I'm pretty happy with this line and I usually fold river unless villain has capped 99 or worse.

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Which street though? I'm thinking about a free showdown raise on the turn, as I'm sure I can fold to a 3-bet. I think it would be harder to do so on the flop as treying with AK unimproved is not unusual, and the pot would be very large by that point.

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Is it worth raising either the flop or turn?

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I dont think so.

You dont know whether he has overcards or a higher pair, so I would just call down.

If the river had been a blank, then I would have bet if checked to, otherwise just call again.

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I'm thinking about a free showdown raise on the turn, as I'm sure I can fold to a 3-bet.

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Are you trying to gain an extra bet from AK calling a turn raise, or else folding and thereby protecting your hand ?

You have position in this hand, and I think that AK might still call a river bet from you unimproved if you dont raise the turn.

However, I doubt whether AK ui would call a river bet if you had raised the turn. So, I dont think that raising the turn would be likely to gain an extra bet if your hand was best and held up.

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*grunch

Villain bets hero raises, villain calls 9 times out of ten if he caps call down.

villain bets hero raises/calls cap.

villain bets hero calls.

its a few more bets than someone who you can trust with having a good hand in a wa/wb situation but over all this wins more money against these guys than the line you took.

Re: There must be a better line... (TT shorthanded again)
 

I actually like this line if you fold the river.

-J

edited to clarify it is the OP's line.

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Raise flop, b/f turn and check behind on the scary river?

It will save you 1/2 BB when you get rivpwnd by AK, you can safely fold to further agression and it gets as much as possible in when you are ahead.

information and value hand in hand.

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I like a flop call, with a turn raise if the board is safe, I dump on the turn if a A or K falls. And take the free showdown if you get the chance.

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I'm thinking about a free showdown raise on the turn, as I'm sure I can fold to a 3-bet.

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Are you trying to gain an extra bet from AK calling a turn raise, or else folding and thereby protecting your hand ?

You have position in this hand, and I think that AK might still call a river bet from you unimproved if you dont raise the turn.

However, I doubt whether AK ui would call a river bet if you had raised the turn. So, I dont think that raising the turn would be likely to gain an extra bet if your hand was best and held up.

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I've made a silly mistake in my post. I'm OOP, it should be me checking first every street. That makes a free showdown raise on the turn a bad idea.

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I've made a silly mistake in my post. I'm OOP, it should be me checking first every street. That makes a free showdown raise on the turn a bad idea.

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LOL, no problem. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

However, I am a bit confused as to the action now. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

Do you need to redo your post ?

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I've made a silly mistake in my post. I'm OOP, it should be me checking first every street. That makes a free showdown raise on the turn a bad idea.

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LOL, no problem. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

However, I am a bit confused as to the action now. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

Do you need to redo your post ?

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It's not that big a difference post-flop. Check-bet-call, Check-bet-call, Check-bet-?

Re: There must be a better line... (TT shorthanded again)
 

Oh I see what happened now.

Should have realised from your post when you said that you were in the SB.

You should have bet the flop.

If your opponent raised your flop bet, then I think that you could probably have safely check/folded the turn unimproved.

Re: There must be a better line... (TT shorthanded again)
 

being OOP I'd probably play it the same way i would if I had something like A9s and CR the flop then play poker from there. I want this guy to be scared of me and I want to test him (early in the session). if you cant fold TT with no overcards then c/c may be ok.

c/c line allows him to extract 2.5 bets with JJ-AA and lets him put in minimal bets with overs.