PS 60$ - AK hits top pair vs a regular
Villain is a decent regular.
I dont think I am ahead of anything and at best I am hoping for a split, too weak? PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums) Hero (t1500) MP3 (t1470) CO (t1540) Button (t1120) SB (t1240) BB (t1500) UTG (t1420) UTG+1 (t1630) MP1 (t2080) Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to t100</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls t100, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>. Flop: (t230) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets t150</font>, Hero calls t150. Turn: (t530) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets t310</font>, Hero folds. Final Pot: t530 |
Re: PS 60$ - AK hits top pair vs a regular
preflop is ok, flop call is okay, folding in fear of two pair/set is okay I mean he probably had KQ, 99, 66 and maybe even a AJ suited hand i like this line.
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Re: PS 60$ - AK hits top pair vs a regular
I dont think a 'decent r egular' has KQ, 66, 99, or AJ in that spot.... I would lean closer towards AA, KK, QQ or AK (with or without A of hearts) ... I think if villian knows what he is doing , he isnt double-barreling weakish bet sizes here with a hand you are ahead of - if he WAS on the flop then he just hit a queen on the turn. I think this is a good laydown
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Re: PS 60$ - AK hits top pair vs a regular
you should've raised the flop to find out where you're at
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Re: PS 60$ - AK hits top pair vs a regular
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you should've raised the flop to find out where you're at [/ QUOTE ] Why not do this with 44 or something? You almost certainly need to fold against a re-raise and you don't figure to get called in this spot. He is drawing to two or less outs if he folds to your raise so you are better off just letting him stab at it with JJ or AQ. Basically your hand doesn't matter when you raise (assuming you don't call a shove) so there is no point doing it with hands that have showdown value. Hand is well played imo. The Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] is the worst card in the deck. |
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you should've raised the flop to find out where you're at [/ QUOTE ] Raising the flop with the intention of folding to a shove is really bad IMO. |
Re: PS 60$ - AK hits top pair vs a regular
This is all villian dependant. I would need a read the dude is a winning regular to not raise the flop and call any RR. If he's a 2p2 clone this line seems ok.
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[ QUOTE ] you should've raised the flop to find out where you're at [/ QUOTE ] Raising the flop with the intention of folding to a shove is really bad IMO. [/ QUOTE ] |
Re: PS 60$ - AK hits top pair vs a regular
interesting hand luis.
i take your line a lot and am wondering a couple of things: 1) would it be bad to just fold preflop? i mean, you call 100, and really the best you can ever do is hit TPTK, and then you can pickoff a c-bet. thats the best you can do. a winning regular is not gonna give you any more chips, and most winning regulars probably know who you are. you never stack villian. i guess you can hope for callers behind, but that can also create a problem if you get three or four of them. 2) i always call flop here vs winning regular. but i wonder if it is better to just raise. not many winning players are gonna put in any more chips without at least AK, so calling only gives a worse hand a chance to catch up. i know villian is probably only drawing to two outs most of the time if behind, but still, giving free cards when you cant extract more value on a later street is not a great idea. idk, this always is a messy spot for me. anyone think a fold preflop is terrible? |
Re: PS 60$ - AK hits top pair vs a regular
I like the laydown, and the call on the flop. WP
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Re: PS 60$ - AK hits top pair vs a regular
For a winning regular I think a PF range of QQ+, maybe AK is good for a 5xBB raise in EP. So a PF fold seems ok?
As played is much tougher. Seems like turn is laydown as he is unlikely to fire two barrels with anything that you beat as said b4. |
Re: PS 60$ - AK hits top pair vs a regular
It depends on what you consider a "decent regular," i.e. range of JJ+,AK, also considering how his set is going if he is a multlitabler. I know you don't know the answer to this, but I generally lean towards they could be tilting from one bad beat. Even "decent regular's," make a raise with 66-TT in this spot. When he makes that bet on the flop you need to raise and get it all-in now or on the turn.
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[ QUOTE ] you should've raised the flop to find out where you're at [/ QUOTE ] Why not do this with 44 or something? You almost certainly need to fold against a re-raise and you don't figure to get called in this spot. He is drawing to two or less outs if he folds to your raise so you are better off just letting him stab at it with JJ or AQ. Basically your hand doesn't matter when you raise (assuming you don't call a shove) so there is no point doing it with hands that have showdown value. Hand is well played imo. The Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] is the worst card in the deck. [/ QUOTE ] this is the answer, everyone read this. |
Re: PS 60$ - AK hits top pair vs a regular
Except there's a big gap between "decent regular" and "big winner". I need to know it's the latter before I let this go on the flop.
But then again, if he's too big a winner, and knows me, he could be capable of firing a pot-building-looking 2nd barrel. But he'd have to think I'm capable of either floating with JJ, or some trickeration, or of folding AK. Possible, but not likely. |
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