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20-40 kill:

Prior to this hand, we were short handed 4 and 5 handed. I won approximately 20 hands in a row and now everyone hates me. They still think I have nothing when I raise because I can't have it again. Complete breying donkey UTG who understands the different suits but that's about it. I won most of my $$$ off of him when he failed ot play his hands agressive. i.e. 5 handed, him in the BB, just calls the extra $10 to match the kill with A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]9 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], then just calsl my raise and then proceeds to check/call down on a board of 7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]2 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]2xJx10x to lose to my A7.

Anyway, 8 handed not a kill pot, donkey limps UTG folded to me in the SB and I complete with 2 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]4 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

Flop Q35 rainbow

check, check, he bets, i call, BB folds.

Turn A rainbow

I c/r and we end up going 6 bets

river 5

No more than 1 bet should go in, right?

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actually no more than two, you have to bet this in case he has three pair.

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betcall

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You really think a donkey will go 6 bets without a set on the turn?

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You really think a donkey will go 6 bets without a set on the turn?

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You CANNOT betfold. He might have the same hand as you.
Also, just checkcall this. You're giving him the opportunity to make a raise that you can't fold to by betting, but you're not a 2-1 favorite at all.

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hm yea i guess checkcall is fine; good point

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c/c

a-q, qq, aa don't make sense with his line here. Maybe 33, but I still don't see that going 6 bets unless he really is that mad at you. Tbh, his line looks awfully like aa (had someone do similar and spike the fh on river).

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I fold PF. If BB knows what's going on, his raising range should be pretty wide, and there's no need to get involved in a 3-handed pot with 42.

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You really think a donkey will go 6 bets without a set on the turn?

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You CANNOT betfold. He might have the same hand as you.
Also, just checkcall this. You're giving him the opportunity to make a raise that you can't fold to by betting, but you're not a 2-1 favorite at all.

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of course we're not a 2-1 favorite, that doesn't mean you should check/call. we're a HUGE dog when we check/call.

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You really think a donkey will go 6 bets without a set on the turn?

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You CANNOT betfold. He might have the same hand as you.
Also, just checkcall this. You're giving him the opportunity to make a raise that you can't fold to by betting, but you're not a 2-1 favorite at all.

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of course we're not a 2-1 favorite, that doesn't mean you should check/call. we're a HUGE dog when we check/call.

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yeah but we're an even bigger dog when we get raised. At the very least we are as big of a dog when we get raised as opposed to when we check and he bets and we lose money on even the first bet going in (obv sets are more likely than 2 pair). If you insist on showing down here (which you shouldnt but the pot is so big I don't blame you), then c/c > b/c. I agree that b/f is the best option but obv not good for most people's sanity.

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joker he didn't raise preflop, villain limped utg+1 and hero completed sb with a hand that at best is breakeven (don't see much suited cards hold positive equity).

anyway, as played out, if villain really was steaming, he should be auto raising ace-big, aa, qq. I'd expect him to show up with 5-5 or 3-3 on the river.

results?

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a-q, qq, aa don't make sense with his line here.

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Really?

Donkeys limp with AA and QQ UTG because they're afraid everyone will fold.

Having said that, assuming he's a fool he'd be playing aces up on this board like they were the nuts also.

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in this scenario with the hero killing the table, i don't find it common for a donk to limp with those big hands planning on getting other people to come along.

if that is common, then ignore my 2 cents on the thread.

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also, without knowing preflop line, i stated that his 6bet turn awfully looks like AA.

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I fold PF as well just not in this hand.

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I check-called and he turned over AA.

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You really think a donkey will go 6 bets without a set on the turn?

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You CANNOT betfold. He might have the same hand as you.
Also, just checkcall this. You're giving him the opportunity to make a raise that you can't fold to by betting, but you're not a 2-1 favorite at all.

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of course we're not a 2-1 favorite, that doesn't mean you should check/call. we're a HUGE dog when we check/call.

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jba, if we are a big enough dog when we check and he bets to make caling bad then we should definitely c/f. In fact I think this is the best play.

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I c/c because I'm not good enough to c/f which I think is really the thing to do but I can't make myself do it in a big pot. Even the WORST of the MOST horrible players I play against wise up after the 3rd raise and ask things like 'You make straight?' (pick your accent) and stop raising. I think we have to keep reminding ourselves that just because someone plays horrible poker doesn't mean he's a total imbecile (they're not) and, as they say, 'Even a blind squirrel.......' The guys got something he went 6 bets w/ and the river pairing is a disaster for you, imo.

Anyway, I c/c and expect to lose.

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I fold PF.

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Fold big gamble for less than 1 sb?

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I fold PF.

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Fold big gamble for less than 1 sb?

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I figure you're teasing but if I never see another POS like that again in the SB I'll be satisfied. I don't know how everybody else does w/ them but I wish I had all those half-bets back. And OP was only going to be in a 3-way pot and, who knows?, the BB might raise. Then what? As you can tell I hate the damn hand. [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]

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Just open muck.

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Just open muck.

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Ha! And I'm the nit who yells at ppl who do this. There HAVE been occasions when my cards have flipped over heading to the muck and I really wish they hadn't because they were the types of hands most of my opponents would play. [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]