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Maybe on a couple of tables at PS because DN asks, but the sites aren't going to listen to all you whingers who essentially want to ban people who are successful against you. I'm a very successful shortstacker and ratholer. Adjusting to 50bb would be no big deal because I buy-in for 50 live and crush those games. To me, banning people with shortstacks is as ridiculous as forcing people off the table if their stack is too deep. Sites aren't gonna listen anyway, so I'll continue plundering mid-stakes and high-stakes tables. The simple reason sites won't change the buy-in is because recreational players will avoid sites with 50bb minimums. Recreational players don't like the feeling of merely being bait. It's the recreational player that drives poker. If you can't adjust to shortstackers, then you aren't a good player. Do you adjust when you're facing an opponent with a much deeper stack than yours?

As for shortstacking being unethical. Give me a break. If that's unethical, then so is check-raising and bluffing. It's poker you morons. It's a game. It doesn't exist so you can grind out your 4BB/100.

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shortstackers...lol

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If you can't adjust to shortstackers, then you aren't a good player.

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sigh.

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Shortstacking is not unethical, ratholing is, and I'd like to hear you defend it. You sounds like an idiot OP.

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why do so many shorstacks think that not being able to adjust to them is why people don't like them?

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intermediate/advanced shortstacking strategy is unexploitable, nobody can beat a good shortstacker, not even your high stakes heros

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So why not employ shortstacking strategies yourself if it's unbeatable? You are costing yourself money. Oh that's right. It's unethical lol.

An advanced deep stack player is also unbeatable long term. Do we ban long-term winners as well?

Why is ratholing a problem anyway? Doesn't it mean you just lose less?

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omg just lock the thread

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I really chalk this up as a victory of sorts. I've beaten the game. People literally want the rules of NLHE changed to defeat me.

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It's okay MyTurn2Raise you can post on your main account

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It's okay MyTurn2Raise you can post on your main account

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If it was MT2R he would talk about protecting the fish.

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IMSAKIDD GIVE ME BACK MY MONEY YOU BASTARD

*SOB*

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IMSAKIDD GIVE ME BACK MY MONEY YOU BASTARD

*SOB*

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I think youre up on me because you win every flip.

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im so lag

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Hey OP - go to a casino and try ratohling. See what happens!

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It's okay MyTurn2Raise you can post on your main account

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If it was MT2R he would talk about protecting the fish.

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save the fish!

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His reply to FatalError is rofl-worthy

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Hey OP - go to a casino and try ratohling. See what happens!

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You would probably win money and then get stabbed.

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Hey OP - go to a casino and try ratohling. See what happens!

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Unless you live in Sydney

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IMSAKIDD GIVE ME BACK MY MONEY YOU BASTARD

*SOB*

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me 2, also i agree with OP as much as i hate to admit it, he makes a good point about recreational players, and people do suck at adjusting to these shorties.

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Adjusting to 50bb would be no big deal because I buy-in for 50 live and crush those games.

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So why are you crying exactly ?

And I know a lot of retards who are "crushing" live game, this is not a proof that you are a good player or something.

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Adjusting to 50bb would be no big deal because I buy-in for 50 live and crush those games.

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So why are you crying exactly ?

And I know a lot of retards who are "crushing" live game, this is not a proof that you are a good player or something.

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QFT, beating live games just means your slightly less retarded than the drooler next too you

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shortstacks are more enjoyable to play online.

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shortstacks are more enjoyable to play online.

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How can anyone enjoy shortstacking?

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Money. Only reason I play.

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OP is a moron.

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I think these threads are the most +EV thing for the 100BB kids making them. All the shorties just post in them instead of playing, but it makes me wonder if people see them and say "Man, I need to get my hands in today."

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shortstacks are more enjoyable to play online.

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How can anyone enjoy shortstacking?

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ive always thought that about pro short stackers, seems like a really dull way to live. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]



Also, why dont you just play donkaments? are cash games more profitable then sngs or regular tournaments?

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OP, I guess I'll spell it out for you.
There are lots of things that 'cut into our bottom lines' that we don't care about. We care about shortstacking because it makes poker less enjoyable to play. You can't really say that about multitabling, using HUDs, or any other retarded argument you've come up with in the at least 2 threads you decided to start. Have fun winning money, but you're like one of those people that wait at traffic lights to try to clean people's windows.

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you're like one of those people that wait at traffic lights to try to clean people's windows.

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BEST description of short-stacking EVER

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intermediate/advanced shortstacking strategy is unexploitable, nobody can beat a good shortstacker, not even your high stakes heros

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even HU?

or 3handed vs 2shortstacks

well the ratholing sure helps the shortstack

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LOL at those who think that the decisions playing 50BB are substantially different from or more difficult than those at 20BB.

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Shortstackers are like the Carlos Mencia of poker.

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LOL at those who think that the decisions playing 50BB are substantially different from or more difficult than those at 20BB.

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LOL at YOU MORAN!

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shortstackers are annoying because adjusting to them basically means you have to play a shortstacker's strategy, and that's not really a problem when it's HU, I wouldn't mind that much really, but when you are 6-handed with a single short stacker on the table acting behind you, it becomes a problem when you would like to raise hands like 56s against other big stackers

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LOL at those who think that the decisions playing 50BB are substantially different from or more difficult than those at 20BB.

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LOL at YOU MORAN!

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I reg'ed before you, ftw. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Shortstackers are like the Carlos Mencia of poker.

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Carlos Mencia comparisons are like the Carlos Mencia of comparisons.

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you're like one of those people that wait at traffic lights to try to clean people's windows.

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BEST description of short-stacking EVER

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genuine lol

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I've been taking a break from poker for a while and it seems there is an awful lot more whinging about shortstackers these days.
So are they just annoying or are they actually making money?