Flopped nut flush
Villain is 41/12/.5 after 30 hands
PokerStars 0.50/1.00 Hold'em (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums) Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises</font>, Hero calls, Button calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls, UTG+1 calls. Flop: (10.50 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, MP3 folds, Hero calls, Button folds, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 caps</font>, Hero calls, BB calls. I called to encourage people to stay and to pop them on the turn. When 3-bet came my thought was worse flush out there. Turn: (11.25 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, BB calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 caps</font>, Hero calls, BB calls $1 (All-In). Turn is not scary for me so I do as planned. When capped I still figure someone made a flush too. River: (23.25 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 1 all-in)</font> <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero ??? |
Re: Flopped nut flush
Dude, you need to quit slowplaying hands where everyone will pay to draw anyway.
River is an obvious raise. Why would you put him on a better hand? He's more likely to given all this action with a flush than a set, and those are really the only hands he's likely to have. |
Re: Flopped nut flush
raise and cap. he has a K-hi flush like 95%
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Re: Flopped nut flush
raise and cap. With a set he would not have gone crazy on flop and turn because of the flush board.
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Re: Flopped nut flush
pf: i 3-bet if MP3 isn't passive pf
f: don't slow play flush with this action, because they can slow down if the 4th diamond come out t: good r: i think you are beaten here by BB, but you beat utg+1 so cap it |
Re: Flopped nut flush
I'm glad the turn got capped.
raise/call river. 88 and 99 are in his preflop raising range so unless it's 22, I think you are good. |
Re: Flopped nut flush
I understand the flop error now, thanks.
Betting was capped on the river (river-spew problem raising its head again...should I cap river only if I have the absolute nuts?), and villain had 8c8s. |
Re: Flopped nut flush
3-bet pf. Villain raise from late position so u have likely have the best hand. Cold-calling AQs is agaisnt an early raiser. I raise call the river. If he capped a set after u suddenly raised after an obvious flop slow-play he is retarded.
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I understand the flop error now, thanks. Betting was capped on the river (river-spew problem raising its head again...should I cap river only if I have the absolute nuts?), and villain had 8c8s. [/ QUOTE ] Silly turn cap by villain. |
Re: Flopped nut flush
Ulkis, a little bit of advice is that you gotta stop announcing what villian had whilst the thread is still active in threads you start. it is much more fun for us when we dont know the results and its better for you to because youll get unbiased responses. ozi.
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Re: Flopped nut flush
'Grunch'
Fold pf. Even if AQs suited somtetimes hits a flush it almost allways lose to a fh on the river. Don't play that junk! |
Re: Flopped nut flush
i see what you did there
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Re: Flopped nut flush
*grunch
looks like someone just hit their ten outer. call. |
Re: Flopped nut flush
unless vil is completely and utterly braindead/randomly misclicking he doesnt have a set when he caps the turn.
cooler. capping the river is still correct. |
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unless vil is completely and utterly braindead/randomly misclicking he doesnt have a set when he caps the turn. cooler. [/ QUOTE ] I don't think he caps the turn but if he does then yes capping river makes the most sense. |
Re: Flopped nut flush
Sorry I spilled the beans too early on both hands I posted today. Next time I'll wait for traffic to die or someone ask.
Even though I'm too smart to blame anything else except my poor play this past week, I still feel like Hitler in that video saying "I just can't seem to catch a god damned break". |
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Betting was capped on the river (river-spew problem raising its head again...should I cap river only if I have the absolute nuts?) [/ QUOTE ] Capping this river is great. The thing is, if he has a boat on the river, he was aggressive enough to put in 4 bets on flop and turn with less than a flush despite the monotone board, which means he's aggressive enough to keep going with a flush now. To not cap the river you would have to think that 99 would give all this action not caring about the flush, but on the river he'll suddenly be too scared that he won't 3bet without a boat. That's kind of contradictory if you think about it. Paradoxically I'd be more afraid of his line if he didn't cap the turn. |
Re: Flopped nut flush
I am seriously puking on this river. The probability that there are 3 flushes out is not very high. It is equally probable that someone overplayed a set on the turn. I don't think flop is all that bad.
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Re: Flopped nut flush
Should we not be 3betting preflop??
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Re: Flopped nut flush
As played, I would raise the river and take my lumps (in this case).
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Re: Flopped nut flush
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Sorry I spilled the beans too early on both hands I posted today. Next time I'll wait for traffic to die or someone ask. [/ QUOTE ] here is a better approach: http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n...esultsDog2.jpg and believe me, fellas, i'm a lot more tired of posting it than you are of seeing it. |
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As played, I would raise the river and take my lumps (in this case). [/ QUOTE ] Agree. Monsters under the bed and all that.... |
Re: Flopped nut flush
well you misplayed earlier streets, but i'm ignoring them and just talking about the river.
raise call the river imo. when he 3-bets it is just more likely that he overplayed a bit on the turn than he is now overplaying very badly on the river when the board pairs. hopefully that makes sense. i still do put him mostly on a K-high flush. i'm just saying his reaction to our raise on a paired board after all this action tells us a ton. |
Re: Flopped nut flush
PF: I like 3 betting AQs instead of the CC; it's just to big a hand to treat like 98s.
Flop: Never miss an opportunity to raise here. Calling is just wrong. Turn: See "Flop" note above. Raise! What's the point of calling here? River: UTG has been playing the second nut flush, I don't think he filled here. If he flopped a set and is betting like this I'd definately make a note that he's either colorblind or overplays sets on monochrome boards where people have obviously made a flush. |
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