TPTK against very strong line
 

Villain is 17/12/1,7, 150 hands

What to do preflop?
Should i folded the turn?


Titan No-Limit Hold'em, $3.00/$6.00BB (Titan HH Converter by Kreatief)

MP2 ($125.40)
MP3 ($590.70)
CO ($879.35) (Hero)
Button ($1,051.63)
SB ($693.75)
BB ($467.30)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
MP2 calls $6.00, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to 30.0</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to 80.0</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero calls $50.00,

Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ( $175 )
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $132.00</font>, Hero calls $132.00,

Turn: 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ( $439 )
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $204.00</font>, Hero calls $204.00...

Re: TPTK against very strong line
 

lead the flop? as played fold turn please..

Re: TPTK against very strong line
 

Why would we lead the flop here?

Re: TPTK against very strong line
 

fold turn

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preflop is close and I think you can just muck to the 3-bet even though its CO vs Button and you're kinda deep, but I would prolly put the 50 in since its suited and fold AQo. 4-betting is an option too but I dont think its a good idea vs someone with these stats.

c/c flop is fine, but fold turn.

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preflop is close and I think you can just muck to the 3-bet even though its CO vs Button and you're kinda deep, but I would prolly put the 50 in since its suited and fold AQo. 4-betting is an option too but I dont think its a good idea vs someone with these stats.

c/c flop is fine, but fold turn.

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Agreed!
AQo is a clear fold pre. It's a really pretty hand when it's suited though.
Meh I think if I'm in a curious mood I'd call this turn too often. But it's prob a fold. It's a small bet, but could very well just be a setup for the river shove.

Re: TPTK against very strong line
 

IMO if your gunna play this hand go all in on the turn instef just calling

Re: TPTK against very strong line
 

fold pre

flop is fine

turn is a fold.

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fold pre

flop is fine

turn is a fold.

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I agree.

Re: TPTK against very strong line
 

fold preflop
i like a b/f flop or c/f flop you can be reverse dominated or have only 4 outs

Re: TPTK against very strong line
 

I think I probably fold here preflop. Villain's range is pretty narrow and just about all of it is ahead of us.

If we do call, that is one of the best flops we can hope for, so if we're just going to c/c c/f then why bother calling preflop? This seems like a losing play to me.

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I think I probably fold here preflop. Villain's range is pretty narrow and just about all of it is ahead of us.

If we do call, that is one of the best flops we can hope for, so if we're just going to c/c c/f then why bother calling preflop? This seems like a losing play to me.

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yes, that´s why i called the turn ^^

I don´t like the bet/fold lines. I would think that hero has a hand like TT or AQo and raise my AK.

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I think I probably fold here preflop. Villain's range is pretty narrow and just about all of it is ahead of us.

If we do call, that is one of the best flops we can hope for, so if we're just going to c/c c/f then why bother calling preflop? This seems like a losing play to me.

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This is bad logic. To illustrate; one of the best times to call this preflop would be vs someone who 3-bets light and plays very predictably on the turn/river, almost never bluffing, and so allowing us to play perfectly. vs a tough player who will have an almost perfect bluffing frequency on the turn and river a fold preflop would be better, and a turn fold would be worse.

Re: TPTK against very strong line
 

tbh i 4b preflop here.. just cuz of sooted, his 3b range should be at its widest here

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tbh i 4b preflop here.. just cuz of sooted, his 3b range should be at its widest here

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Villain is 17/12/1,7, 150 hands - I think you are spewing money if you 4b this guy preflop.

Re: TPTK against very strong line
 

EZ Fold vs him preflop. The real question is preflop with AKo, not AQ