$5 Rebuy - Fold KK here?
 

This is a tourney. For some reason the converter treats rebuy tourneys as cash games.

Blinds: $15/$30
7 players
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Stack sizes:
Hero: $3280
UTG+1: $5270
MP1: $610
CO: $2010
Button: $1850
SB: $1800
BB: $1885

Pre-flop: (7 players) Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $90</font>, 4 folds, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($270, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $120</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises to $630</font> ...

Two people showing aggression, and these people play nutty cards. Time to let it go, find a better spot?

Re: $5 Rebuy - Fold KK here?
 

5 dollar rebuy???

your ahead 99.9% of the time, but chances are, they have more outs lol

Re: $5 Rebuy - Fold KK here?
 

Without a read that they were maniacing I think I could feel alright with a fold here.

If they flip over 44 and k8o then you can bet there will be other opportunities.

Re: $5 Rebuy - Fold KK here?
 

I'd raise more pre-flop.

Also, I'm happy getting it all in here, just because although you are behind sometimes, you often get crazy action in the re-buy. There range could include anthing from A6+ 44+ suited connectors from 45 up to J10

Although I dont play crazy in teh re-buy I think you have to be willing to get em all in with you good hands.

Re: $5 Rebuy - Fold KK here?
 

i see a "blind special" coming here, one of them probably has 89 for top pair and oesd which in a rebuy its not terrible to commit yourself with. At worst you're probalby against two pair.

Re: $5 Rebuy - Fold KK here?
 

it's ok to fold there. they may be maniacs, but getting to showdown here will be expensive. and they are more likely to improve. you got a pair. you're probably ahead 40% of the time.

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I would just push the flop. If you are ahead, they have out; if you are behind, you usually have some outs. If you lose, double rebuy for another $10.

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it's ok to fold there. they may be maniacs, but getting to showdown here will be expensive. and they are more likely to improve. you got a pair. you're probably ahead 40% of the time.

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if hero is ahead here 40% of the time it is a clear push cause of the pot odds.
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in a 5$ rebuy i'd always push here as people reraise here with TPTK or similar.

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I'd raise more pre-flop.

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Agree, 4-5x at this level.

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Also, I'm happy getting it all in here, just because although you are behind sometimes, you often get crazy action in the re-buy. There range could include anthing from A6+ 44+ suited connectors from 45 up to J10

Although I dont play crazy in teh re-buy I think you have to be willing to get em all in with you good hands.

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Again, I agree wholeheartedly. Push and get ready to rebuy if necessary. If you're playing rebuys conservatively - attempting to minimize your buy-ins, I'm not sure there's much of a point of playing as you might as well just play a freezout

Re: $5 Rebuy - Fold KK here?
 

I am NEVER folding here with your stack in a rebuy period. You are ahead here A LOT and if you happen to get unlucky you are a double rebuy away from getting most of your stack back.

Seriously though, you shouldn't even have to think about this, very easy call. If you had say 12-20k and it was for your stack then it is a tough decision, but since you have just barely above the minimum (3k) its an easy all in.

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If you're playing rebuys conservatively - attempting to minimize your buy-ins, I'm not sure there's much of a point of playing as you might as well just play a freezout

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QFT

Re: $5 Rebuy - Fold KK here?
 

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it's ok to fold there. they may be maniacs, but getting to showdown here will be expensive. and they are more likely to improve. you got a pair. you're probably ahead 40% of the time.

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if hero is ahead here 40% of the time it is a clear push cause of the pot odds.

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in a 5$ rebuy i'd always push here as people reraise here with TPTK or similar.

[/ QUOTE ]yes, it is close. whoever triples up here is going to be the table bully.

Re: $5 Rebuy - Fold KK here?
 

shove preflop

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yes, it is close. whoever triples up here is going to be the table bully.

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I just want to make it clear to the OP and I hope other people help make this point too, it isn't close at all, it is a VERY clear that you should NEVER fold that hand in that spot.

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shove preflop

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QFT

You get called ultra light at rebuy tourneys.

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in a 5$ rebuy i'd always push here as people reraise here with TPTK or similar.

[/ QUOTE ]yes, it is close. whoever triples up here is going to be the table bully.

[/ QUOTE ]Yeeeeaaaaahhhh, I'm going to have to go ahead and disagree with you there. Table bully with 15/30 blinds... Who cares?
I shov pre. As played, shove flop.

Re: $5 Rebuy - Fold KK here?
 

I think shoving preflop is a good play only if you know that your table is doing the same thing, rebuy tables are tight sometimes and you would be missing out on a hell of a lot of value by straight shoving and picking up just the blinds. If the table doesn't seems LAGGY then I say make a raise just above standard to 150 and then lead out with big bets maybe even all in on the flop, it wont hurt to make a big bet on the flop and then get all in on the turn.

Re: $5 Rebuy - Fold KK here?
 

Easy Push.

First, it's a rebuy.

Second we have a big overpair and we're still in rebuy.