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greatwhite 09-07-2007 06:23 PM

lions at oakland
 
How in the world are the Raiders a 2.5 pt favorite?

rjp 09-07-2007 06:30 PM

Re: lions at oakland
 
Raiders were a good bet earlier this week. Not so much now.

greatwhite 09-07-2007 06:49 PM

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I put $30 on the Lions.

siccjay 09-08-2007 07:37 AM

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I like Det here too, unless Culpepper starts. They are being weird about the QB situation. I think he may play.

greatwhite 09-08-2007 08:58 AM

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I like Det here too, unless Culpepper starts. They are being weird about the QB situation. I think he may play.

[/ QUOTE ]I heard he wasn't starting, but I can't confirm that for sure.

rjp 09-08-2007 11:33 AM

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If you're betting the Lions you want Culpepper to start. McCown has a much better grasp of the offense.

ActionTodd 09-08-2007 01:58 PM

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I'm a Raiders fan [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
Go Silver & Black!!!

squashington 09-08-2007 02:30 PM

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I bleed silver and blue but no way would I side with the Lions in this one. Our secondary is soooo soft and if McCown starts he might be looking to exact some revenge on the team that let him go.

If anything I'd look to the over 39 on this game. Oakland had a great pass defense last year but it was mostly due to teams running the ball to protect the lead in blowouts. Take this for what it's worth as well:

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The Lions and Raiders are playing in McAfee Coliseum, which also is being used by the Oakland Athletics. As a result, part of the football field is grass and part is dirt, from the baseball infield.

"It's an issue, but we're both playing on it. They don't practice there," Lions quarterback Jon Kitna said. "It's a lot like playing on snow. The good thing is that you (offense) have an advantage -- the receivers know where they're going. You just deal with it. Would you rather not be on it? Of course, but it is what it is."

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siccjay 09-08-2007 04:39 PM

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If you're betting the Lions you want Culpepper to start. McCown has a much better grasp of the offense.

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I don't think that makes up for the fact that Culpepper is miles ahead of him talent wise.

rjp 09-08-2007 04:51 PM

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If you're betting the Lions you want Culpepper to start. McCown has a much better grasp of the offense.

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I don't think that makes up for the fact that Culpepper is miles ahead of him talent wise.

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I know the Raiders make a lot of mistakes, but they seem to be getting this one right. McCown might not be as talented as Culpepper, but is Culpepper as talented as he once was? I guess we'll have to wait a few weeks to find out.

paperchamp 09-08-2007 05:37 PM

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I'm on the raiders at -1.

siccjay 09-09-2007 04:23 PM

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edit: nevermind! ESPN said Culpepper was 1/1 and now it says McCowan!

housenuts 09-09-2007 05:45 PM

Re: lions at oakland
 
one of the guys in my survivor pool took Oakland. not the best pick really.

NajdorfDefense 09-09-2007 05:59 PM

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How in the world are the Raiders a 2.5 pt favorite?

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People overreacted and think Art Shell was the entire problem. He wasn't.

ehafner 09-09-2007 06:50 PM

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im on lions +1.5 holddddd

Murphinator 09-09-2007 07:30 PM

Re: lions at oakland
 
I had Det +3 for the 2nd half, their Defense is clutch [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

silkyjonson 09-09-2007 07:35 PM

Re: lions at oakland
 
I took detroit at +2.5 for a hundo. There offence looked good and they were out to prove something against a weaksauce Oakland team.

greatwhite 09-09-2007 08:04 PM

Re: lions at oakland
 
I wish I made more bets this week. Teams I was considering:
Panthers, Giants, Colts, Texans, Chargers, Titans, Vikings, Lions, Eagles, Dolphins, Ravens. I also felt like the Jets would get killed, but it would take a lot of EV for me to bet against them.

MacGuyV 09-09-2007 08:10 PM

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How in the world are the Raiders a 2.5 pt favorite?

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People overreacted and think Art Shell was the entire problem. He wasn't.

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Meh, I haven't heard anyone but the sports guy say they think the Raiders won't suck and it's not as if the Lions road juggernaut would've been a favorite anywhere anyway. Good win though

hobbes9324 09-09-2007 08:11 PM

Re: lions at oakland
 
Straight Wager 09/09/07 14:52 ET
bet 200.00 to win 360.00 (paid 560.00) Result: Wager Won

Lions vs Raiders - Adjusted Line and Total
Lions 36
Raiders 21 09/09/07(16:15 ET)
Lions -3.5 (+180)

NEVER underestimate how having a batshit crazy owner works against you......

MM MD


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