100nl: marginal spot in RR pot
 

Villain is High_Society running like 22/19 over 200 hands. Weve been playing for a little while and have no history first time Ive 3bet him actually. Seems like a good player. See stack sizes.

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

Hero (SB): $142.05
BB: $65.30
UTG: $105.90
MP: $137.80
CO: $193.40
BTN: $101.70

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 Players)
2 folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $4.00</font>, BTN folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $14.00</font>, BB folds, CO calls $10.00

Flop: ($29) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $22.00</font>, <font color="red">CO raises all-in to $179.40</font>, [i]Hero ???

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I think i'd check that flop even though we're oop. it hits a large part of his range, and a slow played big pair is not out of the question. I'd expect to be check/raised most of the time here if we bet this flop.

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check flop

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c/c or c/r or c/f?

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c/c or c/r or c/f?

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c/c

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c/c or c/r or c/f?

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c/c. you're basically at the mercy of the deck on that flop.

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you can break this one down to pot odds alone. the fact is you're not priced in because your queen pry isnt good and theres no way to know if your ace is good. I like to c-bet but then its an easy fold in my opinion.

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and yes i saw the straight draw, and i still dont like your odds.

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c/c or c/r or c/f?

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c/c. you're basically at the mercy of the deck on that flop.

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Good point. 100bb stacks this is a std b/c though right?

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c/c. you're basically at the mercy of the deck on that flop.

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Good point. 100bb stacks this is a std b/c though right?

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still c/c

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I remember this hand, I'm the villain here. What did you put me on?

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I remember this hand, I'm the villain here. What did you put me on?

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kq/qj/aa/kk bluff maybe 10% of the time

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I held JJ

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Like I said, I hadnt played much with you but you seemed like a good player (ie i saw you value bet that donk on 2 streets with bottom pair). I was running nitty at that table and hadnt 3bet you 1 time in like an hour so theres just no way you would think I was doing it light. Some people who seem decent call any 3bet IP though idk. When you shoved, the only hand I have decent equity against is KK. AA-TT is what I thought.

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is a c/c really profitable here?

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i dont see how it is adn not sure why everyone seems to love it. i hate check call. we're missing most of the time on the turn, are OOP when we do hit so extracting is difficult, and almost always face another big bet when we miss, so we have to fold the turn anyway. and villains likely has redraws even when we do hit on the turn.

b/f and c/f are both better i think.

and b/c is jsut rediculous. if anyone is even thinking about a b/c then you should just ch/rai.

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Pot odds wise I have 37% equity after he shoves (1.69:1).

Board: 9c Jd Ts
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 30.269% 28.47% 01.80% 60876 3852.00 { AQo }
Hand 1: 69.731% 67.93% 01.80% 145260 3852.00 { TT+ }

If you include AQ in his range then its close, but I still think hes folding this alot given how ive played.

Board: 9c Jd Ts
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 36.720% 18.98% 17.74% 60876 56907.00 { AQo }
Hand 1: 63.280% 45.54% 17.74% 146070 56907.00 { TT+, AQs, AQo }

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i dont think villain is ever shoving AQ on that board. that flop shouldve nailed your range and he should never expect you to b/f (even though you it just so happens that u should with your exact holding)

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yah i was going to say sets but i was a bit sloshed so yah w/e i meant to say that the majority of the time its nuts/near nuts/blah blah and a bluff 10% of the time.