Settle a bet: How many internet players will clear $1-Mil in 2007?
 

So I was sitting next to a typically-obnoxious bridge-and-tunnel specimen at the Borgata last weekend, and he brought up his "buddy" from home who he referred to as one of the best poker players on the internet, who was on pace to clear $250K this year. I probably shoulda just let him stew in his ignorance, but I pointed out that while $250K was pretty cool, I was pretty sure that it wasn't even close to what the real sharks were pulling in.

Anyway, this led to a bet between me and my buddy back in the hotel room: how many CASH GAME internet players will clear $1,000,000 in online winnings in 2007. (We excluded MTTs from the bet, b/c of the loldonkament factor, not that I think there are all that many, if any, online MTTers clearing 1M.) I threw out an answer of 50, he said way more -- we agreed on 125 as the over/under (i've got the under). A very un-balla $500 riding on this bet. Help settle it.

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Because 2+2 is gonna know, and then you can just print out this topic as proof that you win.

C'mon.

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will never know the real answer anywayas due to tax evaders

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This will help

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Under, doubt there is enough money going around for $125 million to be pulled out by the top guys. You'd have to be looking at much much much more money then that in the games.

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I'd guess like 25 really

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so how are you gonna decide who's right?

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I think this is actually a lot closer than people are saying. Think of all the PLO and Limidonks who are killing it.

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I think this is actually a lot closer than people are saying. Think of all the PLO and Limidonks who are killing it.

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And all the different sites and whatnot.

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So we are just talking games on the internet and not tourneys (fwiw, i think the over/under on someone only playing online tourneys and making a million is probably zero).

Discounting live play entirely then, we are talking 20 at most. Though has been correctly pointed out its almost impossible to prove either way due to multiaccounting, multiple games and sites.

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but how much will they lose?

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wow i was the only one who chose bastard

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bastard!

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Threeve.
Or maybe eleventy.

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I would take this bet in a second.

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I would take the under on 60... so under. I hope you determined ahead of time a way to settle this bet.

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I would take this bet in a second.

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Yeah, I mean, the WCOOP main event will have a $1M+ first prize.

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Yeah, I mean, the WCOOP main event will have a $1M+ first prize.

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It will get chopped like always.

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Yeah, I mean, the WCOOP main event will have a $1M+ first prize.

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It will get chopped like always.

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Damn pussies can't handle a half million dollar SNG.

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Under 50 for sure. Across all sites there are what, only a few 50-100+ games going on?

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Under 50 for sure. Across all sites there are what, only a few 50-100+ games going on?

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It's doable at 10/20 and 25/50 though. Probably even 5/10.

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Think so? has anyone ever cleared 1M playing 25/50? Are you including rakeback in this bet btw?

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Under 50 for sure. Across all sites there are what, only a few 50-100+ games going on?

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It's doable at 10/20 and 25/50 though. Probably even 5/10.

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Samo made 6 million at 10/20!

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you can probably get a decent idea by looking at the hsdb numbers for a particular site and then determining how many players/100 are going to book a million, and then working that against the total player numbers on pokersitescout or something to get a rough idea. I'm def. in the camp of "not that many players are winning huge long term" though.

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I would vote for the under but I think it is fairly close.

Some brief assumptions. Good regs at 25/50 NL and above should be making this amount (less than 20 buyins a month) if they are playing full time and some are capable of making this much playing 10/20 and 5/10 IMO (although this would certainly require more play). If we assign an arbitrary ten such players to each network/site then we are coming fairly close to the stated figure. Add to that a non-negligible component of Limit holdem (100/200 and higher) and Omaha players and we are certainly not far off the mark.

As several have stated however it is pretty much impossible to quantify so I don't know how you plan on settling this bet.

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Think so? has anyone ever cleared 1M playing 25/50? Are you including rakeback in this bet btw?

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Rakeback/FPPs/etc. should be included IMO.

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Under 50 for sure. Across all sites there are what, only a few 50-100+ games going on?

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It's doable at 10/20 and 25/50 though. Probably even 5/10.

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LA is up 600K at 5/10, apparently, so far this year.

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How many hands ?

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Well you could start by listing some of the obvious ones, (sbrugby, bennyamine etc.) I'm sure we could come up with at least 20 that are known to us.

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Under 50 for sure. Across all sites there are what, only a few 50-100+ games going on?

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It's doable at 10/20 and 25/50 though. Probably even 5/10.

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LA is up 600K at 5/10, apparently, so far this year.

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paging LA, graphs, PT screen shot ect....

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Under 50 for sure. Across all sites there are what, only a few 50-100+ games going on?

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It's doable at 10/20 and 25/50 though. Probably even 5/10.

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LA is up 600K at 5/10, apparently, so far this year.

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Who's "LA"? Even assuming a solid winrate of 5 PTBB at 5/10 (basically $1 / hand), you're telling me he's played 600K hands this year (averaging 75,000 / month)??? Sick if true.

I think # > $1M is greater than 25...and certainly under 250. I take under-125 all day long.

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Under 50 for sure. Across all sites there are what, only a few 50-100+ games going on?

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It's doable at 10/20 and 25/50 though. Probably even 5/10.

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LA is up 600K at 5/10, apparently, so far this year.

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Who's "LA"? Even assuming a solid winrate of 5 PTBB at 5/10 (basically $1 / hand), you're telling me he's played 600K hands this year (averaging 75,000 / month)??? Sick if true.

I think # > $1M is greater than 25...and certainly under 250. I take under-125 all day long.

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600k hands in 8+ months isn't a big deal. to many, ( not me) it's slacking.

Dunno the "record", but I'd not be surprised if someone like nations or rainkhan( in SNG's) has played 250k+ in one month.