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bottomset 09-04-2007 08:30 AM

1/2 I know where the gas petal is, its the brake that is tricky
 
villian is sobraoboy, we don't have much for history

I raised mp1, he rr from mp3, I 4bet he just called then folded on a J93r board

only other hand we played he raised UTG, I called in the SB and c/r the flop and he folded

overall Ive been playing pretty loose 22/15 and he is on a fair amount of my tables, but I haven't been caught getting out of line pre or post really

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 8 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $219.00
BB: $49.35
UTG: $121.20
UTG+1: $317.75
MP1: $98.00
MP2: $202.00
CO: $63.65
Hero (BTN): $232.65

Preflop: Hero is dealt 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (8 Players)
3 folds, <font color="red">MP2 raises to $8.00</font>, CO folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $24.00</font>, 2 folds, MP2 calls $16.00

Flop: ($51) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
MP2 checks

I have pure air here, and am wondering if I should just give up on the hand and check

or stick with my normal very aggro gameplan and fire

Mike Kelley 09-04-2007 08:33 AM

Re: 1/2 I know where the gas petal is, its the brake that is tricky
 
I bet fold that flop, but i don't think it's bad for metagame to give one up once in awhile either.

CalledDownLight 09-04-2007 12:50 PM

Re: 1/2 I know where the gas petal is, its the brake that is tricky
 
Just bet although he's definitely good enough to play back I still like making it $36 on the flop.

Is he still playing as nitty as he used to?

FireStorm 09-04-2007 01:00 PM

Re: 1/2 I know where the gas petal is, its the brake that is tricky
 
Not a great flop to fire at, wayyyyyy too many draws etc that will take one off.

Mike Kelley 09-04-2007 01:09 PM

Re: 1/2 I know where the gas petal is, its the brake that is tricky
 
Am I the only Reg that doesn't chase draws on paired boards?

GrandMelon 09-04-2007 01:43 PM

Re: 1/2 I know where the gas petal is, its the brake that is tricky
 
either c/f or be prepared to fire 2 barrels

CalledDownLight 09-04-2007 01:45 PM

Re: 1/2 I know where the gas petal is, its the brake that is tricky
 
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Not a great flop to fire at, wayyyyyy too many draws etc that will take one off.

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If he somehow has a draw you'll get c/r so thats not an issue. From my experience with sobrao he makes his decisions on the flop in 3bet pots.

skydancing8 09-04-2007 02:58 PM

Re: 1/2 I know where the gas petal is, its the brake that is tricky
 
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Am I the only Reg that doesn't chase draws on paired boards?

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No you're not.

bottomset 09-04-2007 07:06 PM

Re: 1/2 I know where the gas petal is, its the brake that is tricky
 
another question, how much faith do you guys put in your gut feelings, it could be selection bias but it seems the times I don't trust that gut feeling the results are bad

I had a feeling he was going to play back at me

Rampage_Jackson 09-04-2007 07:11 PM

Re: 1/2 I know where the gas petal is, its the brake that is tricky
 
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another question, how much faith do you guys put in your gut feelings, it could be selection bias but it seems the times I don't trust that gut feeling the results are bad

I had a feeling he was going to play back at me

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I'm almost always betting this flop. But if you think you have a read you can c/f.

SABR42 09-04-2007 07:32 PM

Re: 1/2 I know where the gas petal is, its the brake that is tricky
 
If you don't bet the flop here you are kinda burning money pre-flop...

coordi 09-04-2007 07:41 PM

Re: 1/2 I know where the gas petal is, its the brake that is tricky
 
Sobrao is pretty good but he never played back at me unless he had the goods, and he was one of my favorite nits to bluff. He might have evolved with the games though, I understand hes been pretty successful.

mlane 09-04-2007 07:44 PM

Re: 1/2 I know where the gas petal is, its the brake that is tricky
 
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Sobrao is pretty good but he never played back at me unless he had the goods, and he was one of my favorite nits to bluff. He might have evolved with the games though, I understand hes been pretty successful.

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I thought you played 5nl???

Mike Kelley 09-04-2007 07:54 PM

Re: 1/2 I know where the gas petal is, its the brake that is tricky
 
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another question, how much faith do you guys put in your gut feelings, it could be selection bias but it seems the times I don't trust that gut feeling the results are bad

I had a feeling he was going to play back at me

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Not often enough it seems. Although, I think they are gonna play back at me everytime I CB.

JacksAgain 09-04-2007 07:56 PM

Re: 1/2 I know where the gas petal is, its the brake that is tricky
 
You showed strength preflop and a cbet will reinforce that strength. You're right, he might play back at you occasionally. But it's +EV to cbet in this situation, especially against a relatively tight player.

CalledDownLight 09-04-2007 08:41 PM

Re: 1/2 I know where the gas petal is, its the brake that is tricky
 
go with the feeling, especially if its based on more thna just board texture


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