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Humble Pie 09-03-2007 05:04 AM

Marsha Waggoner hates black people.
 
This weekend I played some live poker in L.A. I was playing in a pretty soft $25-$50 limit game when Marsha Waggoner came to my table. The very first hand she plays she's involved in a big multi-way pot where one player is all in and three players are still betting. At showdown the lone African-American Player at the table shows a full-house to take down the pot. Marsha is exasperated, I guess because she feels the cards did her wrong, she gives this black guy next to her the stink eye and then tells the rest of the table "I just hope he keeps that up".

The very next hand her and this same black guy are heads up when an innocuous looking card hits the board, Marsha then flashed one of her hole cards to the guy and said "You probally need this for your inside strait." The black guy said "no, that doesn't help me." and proceeded to raise. On the river instead of calling the black guys bet or folding she threw her cards into his unprotected hand in disgust.

A few hands later, Marsha made a very fishy raise. It seemed that her intention was to call a bet but after a few players behind her folded, she threw in some more chips and said that it was a raise. The black guy who was last to act in the hand called her for a string raise. Marsha threw up her hands and said "sure, fine, you can call me on a string raise, that's okay... but what difference does it make to you, you're playing with drug money anyway." The dealer made her take her raise back. Marsha threw her cards at the dealer (who was also black) racked up her chips and left the table.

luckyjimm 09-03-2007 05:06 AM

Re: Marsha Waggoner hates black people.
 
Stupid story, ban OP

LongBall42 09-03-2007 05:08 AM

Re: Marsha Waggoner hates black people.
 
Great, nobody cares.

luckyjimm 09-03-2007 05:08 AM

Re: Marsha Waggoner hates black people.
 
Did the guy LOOK like a drug dealer? If so, it isn't racist. If he didn't, then yeah it's out of order.

bustedromo 09-03-2007 05:11 AM

Re: Marsha Waggoner hates black people.
 
Marsha from the Brady Bunch ?

EWS87 09-03-2007 05:14 AM

Re: Marsha Waggoner hates black people.
 
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Did the guy LOOK like a drug dealer? If so, it isn't racist. If he didn't, then yeah it's out of order.

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doesn't need to be racist to be completely out of line...no matter who the opponent is and what they have done to you, this behavior should never be tolerated

silver book 09-03-2007 05:18 AM

Re: Marsha Waggoner hates black people.
 
the best part of this was the look on mike myers face after it happened...

Franchise 60 09-03-2007 05:22 AM

Re: Marsha Waggoner hates black people.
 
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Did the guy LOOK like a drug dealer? If so, it isn't racist. If he didn't, then yeah it's out of order.

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What does "looking" like a drug dealer entail? Being black? wearing jewelry? I think your way out of line on this one, along with the woman who said it.

john voight 09-03-2007 05:25 AM

Re: Marsha Waggoner hates black people.
 
who teh [censored] is Marsha Waggoner

Vehn 09-03-2007 05:27 AM

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the best part of this was the look on mike myers face after it happened...

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A+++

luckyjimm 09-03-2007 06:29 AM

Re: Marsha Waggoner hates black people.
 

There is a 20-stone Eastern European guy who's a regular at the poker club I used to go to who is known to own a nearby strip club, and who knows what else he's into behind the scenes. He is very loud, sometimes very rude at the tables, trying to crush and bully people he doesn't like. He always has other guys with him lurking in the background. He drops a lot of money, so it's a running joke that if you spend £20 on a lapdance at his club, £19.50 goes to him to feed his poker losses. Now, if (taking my life into my own hands) I was to jibe him at the tables with "I know you make all your money from strippers anyway", would I be being "racist" because he happens to be from Eastern Europe?

Same situation as in the OP.

bones 09-03-2007 06:45 AM

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There is a 20-stone Eastern European guy who's a regular at the poker club I used to go to who is known to own a nearby strip club, and who knows what else he's into behind the scenes. He is very loud, sometimes very rude at the tables, trying to crush and bully people he doesn't like. He always has other guys with him lurking in the background. He drops a lot of money, so it's a running joke that if you spend £20 on a lapdance at his club, £19.50 goes to him to feed his poker losses. Now, if (taking my life into my own hands) I was to jibe him at the tables with "I know you make all your money from strippers anyway", would I be being "racist" because he happens to be from Eastern Europe?

Same situation as in the OP.

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Wow...

TheRenaissance 09-03-2007 06:54 AM

Re: Marsha Waggoner hates black people.
 
...except that nowhere in the op does it say "...black guy who is known to be a drug dealer". It is just a black guy.

luckyjimm 09-03-2007 06:55 AM

Re: Marsha Waggoner hates black people.
 
What I mean is, if the insult is said just because of someone's race, and it's stereotyping all members of that race as criminals, then sure it's racist. But if it's based on that person's appearance and behaviour, then it's not racist. However I see now that perhaps my analogy is unfair since in the case I mentioned the guy's line of work is known, whereas Marsha didn't know anything about the guy he insulted and was purposefully being rude.

gregorio 09-03-2007 07:03 AM

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There is a 20-stone Eastern European guy who's a regular at the poker club I used to go to who is known to own a nearby strip club, and who knows what else he's into behind the scenes. He is very loud, sometimes very rude at the tables, trying to crush and bully people he doesn't like. He always has other guys with him lurking in the background. He drops a lot of money, so it's a running joke that if you spend £20 on a lapdance at his club, £19.50 goes to him to feed his poker losses. Now, if (taking my life into my own hands) I was to jibe him at the tables with "I know you make all your money from strippers anyway", would I be being "racist" because he happens to be from Eastern Europe?

Same situation as in the OP.

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In the OP, the woman was referring to a black person as being a drug dealer, presumably for no reason other than he is black, hence she is being racist.

In your example, you are referring to someone who owns a strip club as being someone who makes money from stripper, presumably because it is true. How are these the same?

luckyjimm 09-03-2007 07:04 AM

Re: Marsha Waggoner hates black people.
 
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There is a 20-stone Eastern European guy who's a regular at the poker club I used to go to who is known to own a nearby strip club, and who knows what else he's into behind the scenes. He is very loud, sometimes very rude at the tables, trying to crush and bully people he doesn't like. He always has other guys with him lurking in the background. He drops a lot of money, so it's a running joke that if you spend £20 on a lapdance at his club, £19.50 goes to him to feed his poker losses. Now, if (taking my life into my own hands) I was to jibe him at the tables with "I know you make all your money from strippers anyway", would I be being "racist" because he happens to be from Eastern Europe?

Same situation as in the OP.

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In the OP, the woman was referring to a black person as being a drug dealer, presumably for no reason other than he is black, hence she is being racist.

In your example, you are referring to someone who owns a strip club as being someone who makes money from stripper, presumably because it is true. How are these the same?

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Okay, I suck at comparisons.

Bulletproof Monk 09-03-2007 10:05 AM

Re: Marsha Waggoner hates black people.
 
meh i agree with u jimm, and i is black so my opinion counts for like 5 white guys in this argument

king_of_drafts 09-03-2007 10:06 AM

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lol

Mr_Mxyztplk 09-03-2007 10:18 AM

Re: Marsha Waggoner hates black people.
 
another chick player throwing a temper tantrum, that never happened before.

Eponymous 09-03-2007 10:36 AM

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the best part of this was the look on mike myers face after it happened...


[/ QUOTE ] "George Bush doesn't care about black people"

Daliman 09-03-2007 12:21 PM

Re: Marsha Waggoner hates black people.
 
Solid post, OP.

I bet right about now Kenna James is wishing he hadn't married his mother.

HEK 09-03-2007 01:08 PM

Re: Marsha Waggoner hates black people.
 
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who teh [censored] is Marsha Waggoner

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WutRUTryin2Hit 09-03-2007 01:11 PM

Re: Marsha Waggoner hates black people.
 
Come on guys, on the general scale of racist stuff Australians say on a regular basis, that comment hardly even rates.

GTL 09-03-2007 01:11 PM

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killsadie 09-03-2007 01:39 PM

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FireStorm 09-03-2007 01:45 PM

Re: Marsha Waggoner hates black people.
 
This is an idiotic thread. The post title is nowhere near it's actual content, no link between the two.

mlagoo 09-03-2007 01:46 PM

Re: Marsha Waggoner hates black people.
 
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who teh [censored] is Marsha Waggoner

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also,

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Did the guy LOOK like a drug dealer? If so, it isn't racist. If he didn't, then yeah it's out of order.

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lol

nflods 09-03-2007 01:48 PM

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Solid post, OP.

I bet right about now Kenna James is wishing he hadn't married his mother.

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Did you see the cardplayer tv vid of Kenna James house?
He could not keep his eyes off the hot chick host's rack.
Now I know why.

LonesomeFugitive 09-03-2007 01:59 PM

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invid 09-03-2007 02:00 PM

Re: Marsha Waggoner hates black people.
 
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There is a 20-stone Eastern European guy who's a regular at the poker club I used to go to who is known to own a nearby strip club, and who knows what else he's into behind the scenes. He is very loud, sometimes very rude at the tables, trying to crush and bully people he doesn't like. He always has other guys with him lurking in the background. He drops a lot of money, so it's a running joke that if you spend £20 on a lapdance at his club, £19.50 goes to him to feed his poker losses. Now, if (taking my life into my own hands) I was to jibe him at the tables with "I know you make all your money from strippers anyway", would I be being "racist" because he happens to be from Eastern Europe?

Same situation as in the OP.

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can you like not post anymore please? thanks

sweetjazz 09-03-2007 02:10 PM

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Why is it racist to be a realist? I see young gangbangers driving bmw's and escalades, where do you think they get the money for it?

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Sucky poker players like Marsha Waggoner?

nekrunanus 09-03-2007 02:12 PM

Re: Marsha Waggoner hates black people.
 
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There is a 20-stone Eastern European guy who's a regular at the poker club I used to go to who is known to own a nearby strip club, and who knows what else he's into behind the scenes. He is very loud, sometimes very rude at the tables, trying to crush and bully people he doesn't like. He always has other guys with him lurking in the background. He drops a lot of money, so it's a running joke that if you spend £20 on a lapdance at his club, £19.50 goes to him to feed his poker losses. Now, if (taking my life into my own hands) I was to jibe him at the tables with "I know you make all your money from strippers anyway", would I be being "racist" because he happens to be from Eastern Europe?

Same situation as in the OP.

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A 20-stone guy? You mean he has like 10 sets of balls? I know there are a lot of genetic mutations in Eastern Europe, but I find this one hard to believe...

supafrey 09-03-2007 02:17 PM

Re: Marsha Waggoner hates black people.
 
Maybe she just buys her rocks off him and is then merely a basehead, not a racist?

mookboi 09-03-2007 02:25 PM

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What does "looking" like a drug dealer entail? Being black? wearing jewelry?

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those 2 + being young and un-educated to where you can tell he didn't even go to college and has no means other than selling dope to fund the jewelry he is wearing/car he drives.

Why is it racist to be a realist? I see young gangbangers driving bmw's and escalades, where do you think they get the money for it?

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12 tabling 50NL, LDO.

mlagoo 09-03-2007 02:55 PM

Re: Marsha Waggoner hates black people.
 
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Why is it racist to be a realist? I see young gangbangers driving bmw's and escalades, where do you think they get the money for it?

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Sucky poker players like Marsha Waggoner?

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yeah, what about all the 19 year old rich white kids you see driving around driving nice cars? do you just assume their parents gave it to them? because no way a black family could afford a nice car without dealing drugs, amirite?

FatRed 09-03-2007 03:05 PM

Re: Marsha Waggoner hates black people.
 
It is unreal how ignorant some people can be. And I'm not just talking about her. "Did he LOOK like a drug dealer"- what exactly does a drug dealer look like? Because as far as I know, they come in all races. Black people hardly have a monopoly on the occupation of drug dealer. "Young gangbangers.... where do you think they got the money" Did you ask them to pull over and confirm for you that they are in fact, gang bangers? If not, you don't know what or who they are and where they got the money to afford their cars. "i is black and my opinion counts for like 5 white guys in this argument" I hope that was a horrible attempt at leveling because if not, Just, WOW!

I am absolutely amazed at how racist people can be. And these are the same people who say black people should "Get over it! That was in the past." Apparently it is not if you are still spewing that garbage today. This may be hard for some people to swallow, but there are black people with money who don't sell drugs. There are even YOUNG BLACK MEN who have money who don't sell drugs. Some of them even buy cars and jewelry and dress in a hip hop style (how dare they spend their money how they choose). Those things make them drug dealers? It really makes me sad for my children that we haven't come any further than this in this great country.

FatRed 09-03-2007 03:07 PM

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mlagoo


EXACTLY!! It's really sad, man.

apefish 09-03-2007 03:10 PM

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meh i agree with u jimm, and i is black so my opinion counts for like 5 white guys in this argument

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There's an affirmative action joke in here somewhere but I cannot figure out a way to make it clear I'm being facetious.


Maybe I just did.

Al Capwne 09-03-2007 04:05 PM

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Come on guys, on the general scale of racist stuff Australians say on a regular basis, that comment hardly even rates.

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Yeah, but aren't you all a bunch of criminals anyway? [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

kemystery 09-03-2007 04:43 PM

Re: Marsha Waggoner hates black people.
 
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There is a 20-stone Eastern European guy who's a regular at the poker club I used to go to who is known to own a nearby strip club, and who knows what else he's into behind the scenes. He is very loud, sometimes very rude at the tables, trying to crush and bully people he doesn't like. He always has other guys with him lurking in the background. He drops a lot of money, so it's a running joke that if you spend £20 on a lapdance at his club, £19.50 goes to him to feed his poker losses. Now, if (taking my life into my own hands) I was to jibe him at the tables with "I know you make all your money from strippers anyway", would I be being "racist" because he happens to be from Eastern Europe?

Same situation as in the OP.

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Stupid story, ban OP


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