Which poker city is the best?
 

After 5 years of playing semi-professionally live and online, I've decided to move to a city near enough to a cardroom that I can play full time. My question to all of you is if you could pick up and move to a city with a cardroom within 30 minutes to an hour at the furthest away where do you choose? Vegas? Mississippi? Florida? Atlantic City?
Keep in mind i'm a 25 year old guy so a city with nightlife and not just a hole like ...Lake Charles Louisiana or Biloxi

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Vegas? maybe
Miss? no
FLorida? hell no for the games
AC? hell no for the area (maybe 30-60 minutes away)

Go with a suburb of LA for the best game selection and most games available.

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vegas period.

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After 5 years of playing semi-professionally live and online, I've decided to move to a city near enough to a cardroom that I can play full time. My question to all of you is if you could pick up and move to a city with a cardroom within 30 minutes to an hour at the furthest away where do you choose? Vegas? Mississippi? Florida? Atlantic City?
Keep in mind i'm a 25 year old guy so a city with nightlife and not just a hole like ...Lake Charles Louisiana or Biloxi

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LOL @ Florida

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Vegas or Cali.I've been considering a move to Lake Tahoe for a while, but I don't think they have enough action.

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I'd choose LA if you want to live a semi "normal" kind of life without everybody trying to hustle you. I find the locals in Vegas to be a very different type of people.

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I'd choose LA if you want to live a semi "normal" kind of life without everybody trying to hustle you. I find the locals in Vegas to be a very different type of people.

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Phoenix is another choice. There are tons of young folks here and nice places to live at reasonable prices. The poker is pretty much limited to 1 room but it's good for the mid-limits and you can go to either LA or LV in an hour. Otherwise, I'd pick LA for the best action and game selection anywhere.

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LA. You'll have great card room to choose from and when you win you won't be tempted to blow it in the pits. Nightlife? LA Baby.

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Nightlife? LA Baby.

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Maybe this belongs in OOT or the EL D forum but I find most of LA goes to bed real early and if they leave the cardroom late (let's say 11:00 pm) there aren't many places to go.

What am I missing?

~ Rick

PS Keep in mind in 53 and live close to the Orange Curtain [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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The poker is best in L.A., but you will have to weigh:
- Cost of living. L.A. is expensive. 1 BR apartments where I live start at $1500/month (I'm in a nice area of Orange County)
- Driving. You will be driving 30 minutes to an hour to get anywhere.
- Taxes. You will pay 9.3% state income tax here.

Of course, there are plenty of other things to do (jobs, nightlife, etc.) here, but you may find Las Vegas or Phoenix to be a better place to live.

-- Russ Fox

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Nightlife? LA Baby.

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Maybe this belongs in OOT or the EL D forum but I find most of LA goes to bed real early and if they leave the cardroom late (let's say 11:00 pm) there aren't many places to go.

What am I missing?

~ Rick

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Hollywood, West LA, Santa Monica, Little Tokyo, San Gabriel. All these areas have great nightlife. Not sure about the OC though.

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1.) Vegas
2.) SoCal

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Take LA and LV for a test drive. Rent an "extended stay" type place for 1-3 months in each city. After the test drives, you'll know which one fits you. LA is a bigger poker scene. LV nightlife has got to be more tourist oriented. That means 1 night stands. LA has a greater variety of small cliques, but I am told that you see the same people over and over again within those small groups.

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You may laugh but the northern panhandle of WV might be a nice choice. Two poker rooms within 30 minutes of each other will be opening up in November. One in Chester, WV and one in Wheeling, WV. There should be quite a bit of fish at these places. Below are my pros and cons:

Pros:
- New card rooms away from LV and AC equal easy money.
- Within an hour of Pittsburgh, PA and major airport.
- Cost of living is rediculously cheap.
- You can join my monthly game when there is room. ;-)

Cons:
- Only two poker rooms. One planning about 40 cash game tables and one planning 25.
- It's not Vegas.
- It's not LA.
- It's WV. ;-)

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Vegas is much more of a town than Atlantic City. You go right outside the casinos in AC and it is basically a slum. Vegas is much more of a town than AC is, but AC has nice areas that are not in the immediate vicinity. Between the two Vegas is much more of a town with more of a nightlife than AC, plus there are more places to play. Strictly between Vegas and AC, I would say Las Vegas. If you have never been to AC or Vegas I would suggest planning trips to both to see what you like first.

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where do u live now?

friend of mine moved to LV (from NYC...but not to play poker) 6 months ago and she is dying to get out of there. its a cultural wasteland and people are just 'wierd' there....too many degenerates, lowlifes, dirtbags, someone always has an alterior motive there. it might be ok to go there for a weekend, but after a while that city just kills you.

AC has no nightlife really (if u compare it to NYC, LA, or LV) and the city itself is just shambles...living just 30 minutes outside of AC would be awesome if u werent 25...though some places are good in the summer (jersey shore), in the winter theyre ghost towns. you can always try philadelphia (about 45min to 1hr away).

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Below are my pros and cons:

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- Within an hour of Pittsburgh, PA and major airport.


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Los Angeles is probably your best bet if you can afford it. Shouldn't be too bad if you're willing to live in the Valley.

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If you're a local, you know where to go every night of the week in AC. I'm not saying it's better than Vegas or anywhere else, but there is a definitely a nightlife here. At least that is what my liver used to tell me.

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What really sucks about AC is that if you step outside of the casinos at night, outside of boardwalk you feel like you're in a real ghost town. It will definitely give you a kick, but probably not of the right kind, especially knowing the crime rate. Atlantic City is an enormous wasteland, and is the biggest valid argument against legalized gambling.

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someone always has an alterior motive there.

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First of all it's ulterior, second the guys a poker player, he deals with folks that have ulterior motives all the time, so that shouldn't be a problem.

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where do u live now?

friend of mine moved to LV (from NYC...but not to play poker) 6 months ago and she is dying to get out of there. its a cultural wasteland and people are just 'wierd' there....too many degenerates, lowlifes, dirtbags, someone always has an alterior motive there. it might be ok to go there for a weekend, but after a while that city just kills you.

AC has no nightlife really (if u compare it to NYC, LA, or LV) and the city itself is just shambles...living just 30 minutes outside of AC would be awesome if u werent 25...though some places are good in the summer (jersey shore), in the winter theyre ghost towns. you can always try philadelphia (about 45min to 1hr away).

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someone always has an alterior motive there.

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First of all it's ulterior,second the guys a poker player, he deals with folks that have ulterior motives all the time, so that shouldn't be a problem.

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Dude if you are going to be a nit at least be good at it!

It was clearly stated........... She is not a poker player!

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live in San Francisco. play there during the week. get a Southwest Visa. fly to Burbank and Vegas out of Oakland on Southwest every other weekend. Oakland and Burbank are really easy airports to deal with. (McCarron sucks.)

that way you don't have to live in Vegas or L.A.

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friend of mine moved to LV (from NYC...but not to play poker) 6 months ago and she is dying to get out of there. its a cultural wasteland and people are just 'wierd' there....too many degenerates, lowlifes, dirtbags, someone always has an alterior motive there. it might be ok to go there for a weekend, but after a while that city just kills you.


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OK, she doesn't like degenerates, dirtbags, lowlifes and angle-shooters, but wants to go back to NYC? Am I being leveled?

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I'm debating this same question. I live in new jersey but wanna get away for alil. I think im gonna go with socal for now. I looked on craiglist and roomates.com and there are alot of rooms for rent from 500-1000 in the la area. Atleast for the first few months im gonna do this untill i really get used to the area and decide its where i wanna call home. Dont get stuck in a 12 month lease and then be stuck somewhere u dont wanna be. ALso in vegas they have a place called Budgetsuites, check out the website its not bad

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Vegas is much more of a town than Atlantic City. You go right outside the casinos in AC and it is basically a slum. Vegas is much more of a town than AC is, but AC has nice areas that are not in the immediate vicinity. Between the two Vegas is much more of a town with more of a nightlife than AC, plus there are more places to play. Strictly between Vegas and AC, I would say Las Vegas. If you have never been to AC or Vegas I would suggest planning trips to both to see what you like first.

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Hey, I wasn't sure, is Vegas a town??

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live in San Francisco. play there during the week. get a Southwest Visa. fly to Burbank and Vegas out of Oakland on Southwest every other weekend. Oakland and Burbank are really easy airports to deal with. (McCarron sucks.)

that way you don't have to live in Vegas or L.A.

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SF itself blows, but there are a lot of somewhat livable cities in other parts of the bay area. It's really not any cheaper than L.A. though. I've tried the fly-to-Vegas-to-play thing. Even with a super discount fare, all the costs still add up to a couple hundred bucks, if you DON'T stay overnight. You have to play pretty big to make that work out over time.

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SF itself blows

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Just curious - in what way(s) do you feel SF blows?

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SF itself blows

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Excuse me? Here's about a thousand reasons it doesn't.

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And here's one reason why it does......
http://www.redorbit.com/news/health/...t_city_report/

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also id like to add i found some amazing houses/apartments near L.A. for EXTREMLY cheap, check out craigslist they have a ton.

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live in San Francisco. play there during the week. get a Southwest Visa. fly to Burbank and Vegas out of Oakland on Southwest every other weekend. Oakland and Burbank are really easy airports to deal with. (McCarron sucks.)

that way you don't have to live in Vegas or L.A.

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cause flying to Vegas and LA and staying at hotels is cheap compared to the real estate in San Fran [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

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I say if youre an east coast guy, living in Jersey a half hour west down the AC expressway is a decent place and not at all as scary as living in AC itself.

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And here's one reason why it does......
http://www.redorbit.com/news/health/...t_city_report/

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Nah, that one counts in the positives column. The diverse makeup of SF tends to keep out the small-minded people, and I like it that way.

I didn't mean to make this thread a fight over San Francisco, and I apologize. Certainly the Bay Area doesn't have the poker action of Los Angeles or Las Vegas, but if nightlife and other fun things to do are major factors in the decision, is should probably be mentioned.

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Live in Philly... great town, low cost of living ($1000 a month for a baller 1 bedroom but you can find very decent accommodations for less), close to NYC. Atlantic City is a 45 min drive away or an hour or so by bus or train. For full disclosure, I don't know [censored] about any other area.

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A lot of people would find Vegas to be a slum. I was appaled when I drove around the north part of town. But SoCal has its rough spots too.

Perhaps anywhere there is a lot of gambling depresses the surroundings.
-Vegas
-AC
-SoCal
-Detroit

But there are some places where it doesn't

-East Chicago
-Southeast Connecticut.

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A lot of people would find Vegas to be a slum. I was appaled when I drove around the north part of town. But SoCal has its rough spots too.

Perhaps anywhere there is a lot of gambling depresses the surroundings.
-Vegas
-AC
-SoCal
-Detroit

But there are some places where it doesn't

-East Chicago
-Southeast Connecticut.

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Don't get cause and effect reversed. I can personally speak to the East Chicago/Gary, Indiana area being a hell hole well before there was gambling there. It's probably the case that gambling is approved in areas like that because they are desperate for some revenue influx.

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And here's one reason why it does......
http://www.redorbit.com/news/health/...t_city_report/

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Nah, that one counts in the positives column. The diverse makeup of SF tends to keep out the small-minded people, and I like it that way.

I didn't mean to make this thread a fight over San Francisco, and I apologize. Certainly the Bay Area doesn't have the poker action of Los Angeles or Las Vegas, but if nightlife and other fun things to do are major factors in the decision, is should probably be mentioned.

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I can't imagine it being gayer than any other major city in the US, but if this is the case, wouldn't it benefit the straight guy, since there's less competition??

Also, I've heard/seen it's a cesspool of hot Asian chicks..

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Don't get cause and effect reversed. I can personally speak to the East Chicago/Gary, Indiana area being a hell hole well before there was gambling there. It's probably the case that gambling is approved in areas like that because they are desperate for some revenue influx.

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That's a good point. If you dig up ancient history, Vegas was a poor dump before the mob made it a rich one. It would seem that putting gambling in a depressed area keeps it that way.

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And here's one reason why it does......
http://www.redorbit.com/news/health/...t_city_report/

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Nah, that one counts in the positives column. The diverse makeup of SF tends to keep out the small-minded people, and I like it that way.

I didn't mean to make this thread a fight over San Francisco, and I apologize. Certainly the Bay Area doesn't have the poker action of Los Angeles or Las Vegas, but if nightlife and other fun things to do are major factors in the decision, is should probably be mentioned.

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I can't imagine it being gayer than any other major city in the US, but if this is the case, wouldn't it benefit the straight guy, since there's less competition??

Also, I've heard/seen it's a cesspool of hot Asian chicks..

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Wasn't it always common knowledge that SF is the gayest city? This report confirms it.

I just heard some woman from SF on the radio the other day (Howard Stern show, I think) say that it is a great place for straight men because the women have a such a hard time finding guys that aren't gay.