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FoxwoodsFiend 09-02-2007 01:14 AM

Make $100: Find Me a Laptop, BBV
 
I need a laptop that can attach to my two monitors. One of my monitors is the Dell 30" 3007WFP which needs a dual-link DVI-D graphics card that supports 2560 x 1600 resolution. I plan on using this laptop as my primary poker playing laptop, but I also want to be able to detach it from my two monitors so I can travel with it.

So here is what I need people:
a laptop that
a) can be hooked up to my two monitors (is this possible? can a laptop work w/my 30" monitor?)
b) has a big and high-res screen for playing while traveling
c) is really fast so my computer doesn't freeze up from PT and Pokerace (which my current one does. it's superfrustrating so the faster the better)
d) has a lot of memory.

First person to post in this thread with a link to such a computer AND an explanation of what I need to do to get the dual-monitor setup AND a link to a graphics card that would work gets $100 USD transferred to his/her (probably his) FTP, UB, or Stars account.

Gogogo!

Dazarath 09-02-2007 01:19 AM

Re: Make $100: Find Me a Laptop, BBV
 
www.falcon-nw.com

Their laptops have everything you requested above, including 2x videocards. But it's going to cost you an arm and a leg. Oh, just a note: I've never actually bought one of their computers, so I can't vouch for them. I've just heard of them before. Maybe you want to check out some reviews before you actually buy one.

kemystery 09-02-2007 01:22 AM

Re: Make $100: Find Me a Laptop, BBV
 
1 External DVI port (HDCP compliant)

OP needs 2, and I wish him luck finding one, probably have to have it custom made to get dual DVIs.

ceegee 09-02-2007 01:22 AM

Re: Make $100: Find Me a Laptop, BBV
 
http://www.dell.com/content/products/pro...;l=en&s=dhs
exactly what you need. My friend uses it for the exact things you need too. He takes it everywhere with him.


EDIT:
My account is The Poker Deuce on FTP =]

LOLDONKBETZ 09-02-2007 01:25 AM

Re: Make $100: Find Me a Laptop, BBV
 
everything u need right h ere

http://reviews.cnet.com/laptops/dell...0.html?tag=lst

pm for ship

kemystery 09-02-2007 01:27 AM

Re: Make $100: Find Me a Laptop, BBV
 
these are all single vga outputs tho

venz 09-02-2007 01:27 AM

Re: Make $100: Find Me a Laptop, BBV
 
Buy a sweet laptop:
http://www.dell.com/content/products/pro...;l=en&s=dhs

Buy this for triple-display hotness...they also make a quadruple display version:
http://www.matrox.com/graphics/en/gx...dh2go/home.php

sold here: http://www99.shopping.com/xGS-matrox...p_dual_monitor

kemystery 09-02-2007 01:29 AM

Re: Make $100: Find Me a Laptop, BBV
 
nice find venz, ship this man his money

ofdabeat 09-02-2007 01:34 AM

Re: Make $100: Find Me a Laptop, BBV
 
I like this gaming rig : http://www.alienware.com/product_detail_...DEFAULT#pdp-nav

venz 09-02-2007 01:36 AM

Re: Make $100: Find Me a Laptop, BBV
 
DVI version is here:
http://www.matrox.com/graphics/en/gx...gital/home.php

RickAstleyFan 09-02-2007 01:39 AM

Re: Make $100: Find Me a Laptop, BBV
 
http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/8699/tx1200xezy2.jpg

LOLDONKBETZ 09-02-2007 01:40 AM

Re: Make $100: Find Me a Laptop, BBV
 
[ QUOTE ]
nice find venz, ship this man his money

[/ QUOTE ]ur alt account?

Chesskid1 09-02-2007 01:46 AM

Re: Make $100: Find Me a Laptop, BBV
 
venz, he needs dual-DVI, not regular DVI to power the monitor.

First of all, you need to find a laptop that actually has a DVI port, not a DSUB15 VGA one. Astonishingly, this rules out 85% of the laptops out there, even though you can provide a dongle for DVI->VGA, yet you can’t do the other way around. Of the 15%, you then need to find ones with graphics chipsets that support dual-link DVI. This rules out all the NVidia GeForce Go 7600 stuff, or internal Intel or VIA-based stuff, which is most of that 15% of the market.

So you’re left with the maybe 2% of laptops out there that run ATI X1400 or X1600 chipsets (which support dual-link), and which actually have DVI ports so they might be able to use it. This doesn’t mean they actually will support it, of course, because that would make things too simple. They might have a chipset that supports it and the right connector, but not have the pins wired up or whatever. Cue much Googling around and discovering of hundreds of people posting things like, “are there any Windows laptops that support dual-link?”, met with general silence and tumbleweed all round. How can the market not have come up with products to fill this gap in well over a year? If they have, why aren’t they shouting the feature from the rooftops?

So, one of the laptops I’ve found that uses the right chipset and has DVI output is the Alienware m5550 . Great, so I go look at the reviews - does it actually have the pins connected properly and support dual-link? No one seems to know (that i've found).


Good luck OP. I am probably going to buy that monitor soon but you're out of luck if you are trying to find a laptop that not only has DVI but dual-DVI.

jumbojacks 09-02-2007 01:56 AM

Re: Make $100: Find Me a Laptop, BBV
 
The only laptop officially confirmed to support dual-link DVI that I know of is the Apple MacBook Pro (the WUXGA 1920x1200 feature looks really nice).

jumbojacks 09-02-2007 01:58 AM

Re: Make $100: Find Me a Laptop, BBV
 
FWF, the laptop you describe is going to SUCK to carry around if you want any sort of mobility.

Chesskid1 09-02-2007 02:00 AM

Re: Make $100: Find Me a Laptop, BBV
 
He plays online poker, therefore he does not want a Mac. Your best bet for most screen real estate isthe labtop's screen and hooking up the highest resolution monitor you can via vga which is more than enough to 12table w/ no overlap. (two 1920 x whatever resolution screens)


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16834220185


That's the labtop i'm buying. cheers.

FoxwoodsFiend 09-02-2007 02:00 AM

Re: Make $100: Find Me a Laptop, BBV
 
[ QUOTE ]
venz, he needs dual-DVI, not regular DVI to power the monitor.

First of all, you need to find a laptop that actually has a DVI port, not a DSUB15 VGA one. Astonishingly, this rules out 85% of the laptops out there, even though you can provide a dongle for DVI->VGA, yet you can’t do the other way around. Of the 15%, you then need to find ones with graphics chipsets that support dual-link DVI. This rules out all the NVidia GeForce Go 7600 stuff, or internal Intel or VIA-based stuff, which is most of that 15% of the market.

So you’re left with the maybe 2% of laptops out there that run ATI X1400 or X1600 chipsets (which support dual-link), and which actually have DVI ports so they might be able to use it. This doesn’t mean they actually will support it, of course, because that would make things too simple. They might have a chipset that supports it and the right connector, but not have the pins wired up or whatever. Cue much Googling around and discovering of hundreds of people posting things like, “are there any Windows laptops that support dual-link?”, met with general silence and tumbleweed all round. How can the market not have come up with products to fill this gap in well over a year? If they have, why aren’t they shouting the feature from the rooftops?

So, one of the laptops I’ve found that uses the right chipset and has DVI output is the Alienware m5550 . Great, so I go look at the reviews - does it actually have the pins connected properly and support dual-link? No one seems to know (that i've found).


Good luck OP. I am probably going to buy that monitor soon but you're out of luck if you are trying to find a laptop that not only has DVI but dual-DVI.

[/ QUOTE ]

you'll have to bear with me because I don't know what DVI and dual-DVI mean exactly: is that matrox box that venz linked to a DVI or dual-DVI converter thingamajig? is it helpful or am i still out of luck?

jumbojacks 09-02-2007 02:03 AM

Re: Make $100: Find Me a Laptop, BBV
 
Being a Mac shouldn't be a problem as long as the underlying hardware is there.

saucyspade19 09-02-2007 02:11 AM

Re: Make $100: Find Me a Laptop, BBV
 
17" macbook pro

I has one, townsend has one, every self-respecting poker pro has one.

specs

# 17-inch MacBook Pro

* NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT graphics processor with dual-link DVI support and 256MB of GDDR3 SDRAM.

iSight
# Dual display and video mirroring: Simultaneously supports full native resolution on the built-in display and up to 2560 by 1600 pixels on an external display, both at millions of colors
# DVI output port
# VGA output using included DVI to VGA adapter
# Built-in iSight camera

http://www.takeitapart.net/photos/macbook_pro/45.jpg

previous thread where I convinced someone to get a macbook pro. You can't lose.

jumbojacks 09-02-2007 02:11 AM

Re: Make $100: Find Me a Laptop, BBV
 
Single-link DVI is the base DVI that you find supported in all interfaces using DVI.

Dual-link DVI uses a second data link in order to support higher resolutions (not enough bandwidth to support really large displays).

It's tricky to find out which cards support dual-link since the feature isn't explicitly advertised. In order to run your 30" at its native resolution, you would want a dual-link supported DVI interface off the laptop.

Apparently the Matrox offer won't work since it seems to cap out at 1920x1200 but can split that signal twice across two displays (for a net of 3840 x 1200)).

Chesskid1 09-02-2007 02:12 AM

Re: Make $100: Find Me a Laptop, BBV
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
venz, he needs dual-DVI, not regular DVI to power the monitor.

First of all, you need to find a laptop that actually has a DVI port, not a DSUB15 VGA one. Astonishingly, this rules out 85% of the laptops out there, even though you can provide a dongle for DVI->VGA, yet you can’t do the other way around. Of the 15%, you then need to find ones with graphics chipsets that support dual-link DVI. This rules out all the NVidia GeForce Go 7600 stuff, or internal Intel or VIA-based stuff, which is most of that 15% of the market.

So you’re left with the maybe 2% of laptops out there that run ATI X1400 or X1600 chipsets (which support dual-link), and which actually have DVI ports so they might be able to use it. This doesn’t mean they actually will support it, of course, because that would make things too simple. They might have a chipset that supports it and the right connector, but not have the pins wired up or whatever. Cue much Googling around and discovering of hundreds of people posting things like, “are there any Windows laptops that support dual-link?”, met with general silence and tumbleweed all round. How can the market not have come up with products to fill this gap in well over a year? If they have, why aren’t they shouting the feature from the rooftops?

So, one of the laptops I’ve found that uses the right chipset and has DVI output is the Alienware m5550 . Great, so I go look at the reviews - does it actually have the pins connected properly and support dual-link? No one seems to know (that i've found).


Good luck OP. I am probably going to buy that monitor soon but you're out of luck if you are trying to find a laptop that not only has DVI but dual-DVI.

[/ QUOTE ]

you'll have to bear with me because I don't know what DVI and dual-DVI mean exactly: is that matrox box that venz linked to a DVI or dual-DVI converter thingamajig? is it helpful or am i still out of luck?

[/ QUOTE ]



You know the cord you connect your 30" dell to your computer? Well the difference between dvi and dual-dvi is this

http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/single-dvi.jpg http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/dual-dvi.jpg


the amount of connectors (the little wires that go into the black squares) changes, and the more there are the more bandwidth can go through the monitor. only the NEWEST video cards do this (and are for desktops) and i know you have one b/c you have a dell 30" that works at full resolution i am gussing. labtops just dont do that.



also, i think this labtop will support it, but it's expensive as [censored].

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16834220206

jumbojacks 09-02-2007 02:15 AM

Re: Make $100: Find Me a Laptop, BBV
 
Also, if you don't want to hassle with Bootcamp to install Windows [on a separate partition], there are options like VMWare's Fusion and Parallels Desktop so you can [virtualize] run Windows within OS X (it's just as fast as running it natively).

I would probably suggest running either program on the 30" in full screen powered by the MBPro.

FoxwoodsFiend 09-02-2007 02:16 AM

Re: Make $100: Find Me a Laptop, BBV
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
venz, he needs dual-DVI, not regular DVI to power the monitor.

First of all, you need to find a laptop that actually has a DVI port, not a DSUB15 VGA one. Astonishingly, this rules out 85% of the laptops out there, even though you can provide a dongle for DVI->VGA, yet you can’t do the other way around. Of the 15%, you then need to find ones with graphics chipsets that support dual-link DVI. This rules out all the NVidia GeForce Go 7600 stuff, or internal Intel or VIA-based stuff, which is most of that 15% of the market.

So you’re left with the maybe 2% of laptops out there that run ATI X1400 or X1600 chipsets (which support dual-link), and which actually have DVI ports so they might be able to use it. This doesn’t mean they actually will support it, of course, because that would make things too simple. They might have a chipset that supports it and the right connector, but not have the pins wired up or whatever. Cue much Googling around and discovering of hundreds of people posting things like, “are there any Windows laptops that support dual-link?”, met with general silence and tumbleweed all round. How can the market not have come up with products to fill this gap in well over a year? If they have, why aren’t they shouting the feature from the rooftops?

So, one of the laptops I’ve found that uses the right chipset and has DVI output is the Alienware m5550 . Great, so I go look at the reviews - does it actually have the pins connected properly and support dual-link? No one seems to know (that i've found).


Good luck OP. I am probably going to buy that monitor soon but you're out of luck if you are trying to find a laptop that not only has DVI but dual-DVI.

[/ QUOTE ]

you'll have to bear with me because I don't know what DVI and dual-DVI mean exactly: is that matrox box that venz linked to a DVI or dual-DVI converter thingamajig? is it helpful or am i still out of luck?

[/ QUOTE ]



You know the cord you connect your 30" dell to your computer? Well the difference between dvi and dual-dvi is this

http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/single-dvi.jpg http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/dual-dvi.jpg


the amount of connectors (the little wires that go into the black squares) changes, and the more there are the more bandwidth can go through the monitor. only the NEWEST video cards do this (and are for desktops) and i know you have one b/c you have a dell 30" that works at full resolution i am gussing. labtops just dont do that.



also, i think this labtop will support it, but it's expensive as [censored].

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16834220206

[/ QUOTE ]

Can you get on IM for a bit? Wanna ask a few questions

jumbojacks 09-02-2007 02:20 AM

Re: Make $100: Find Me a Laptop, BBV
 
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16834220206

For comparison, you get a slightly faster processor 2.2 -> 2.4 GHz, less video memory 512 -> 256 MB, but option for larger res panel WSXGA+ -> WUXGA+.

ikestoys 09-02-2007 02:26 AM

Re: Make $100: Find Me a Laptop, BBV
 
[ QUOTE ]
17" macbook pro

I has one, townsend has one, every self-respecting poker pro has one.

specs

# 17-inch MacBook Pro

* NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT graphics processor with dual-link DVI support and 256MB of GDDR3 SDRAM.

iSight
# Dual display and video mirroring: Simultaneously supports full native resolution on the built-in display and up to 2560 by 1600 pixels on an external display, both at millions of colors
# DVI output port
# VGA output using included DVI to VGA adapter
# Built-in iSight camera

http://www.takeitapart.net/photos/macbook_pro/45.jpg

previous thread where I convinced someone to get a macbook pro. You can't lose.

[/ QUOTE ]

seconded, i absolutely love my macbook pro

jumbojacks 09-02-2007 02:29 AM

Re: Make $100: Find Me a Laptop, BBV
 
Actually, I think it's pretty close to being an obvious choice now that I think about. I'm not familiar with other offerings that support dual-link DVI, somewhat portable, supports WUXGA+ as it's main res, and doesn't slack on performance.

FoxwoodsFiend 09-02-2007 03:23 AM

Re: Make $100: Find Me a Laptop, BBV
 
Thread is over. Chesskid found me a baller computer that was exactly what I was looking for. He told me I didn't even need to ship him money, but I'm a man of my word so I shipped him a hundo anyway.

FTW

bigshowmack 09-02-2007 04:47 AM

Re: Make $100: Find Me a Laptop, BBV
 
I'm glad that the thread is over because if that stupid idiot called it a labtop one more time I was going to hunt him down and punch him in the face.


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