88 3bet pot vs russian FULLstack
 

500 hands or smth with villain, he seems solid/reasonable, have him as 19/12 or smth. Not much of a 3betting history, tho. Cant say hes defending his blinds fiercly.

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $2/$4 Blinds - 4 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $396.00
BB: $423.50
UTG: $507.00
Hero (BTN): $400.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $14.00</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $44.00</font>, BB folds, Hero calls $30.00

Flop: ($92) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $76.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises all-in to $356.00</font>

thoughts?

Re: 88 3bet pot vs russian FULLstack
 

would like it a lot more w/ AA. Your line looks ridiculous, I think any K is callin

Re: 88 3bet pot vs russian FULLstack
 

im not trying to fold out AK here.

Re: 88 3bet pot vs russian FULLstack
 

please please please have QQ? JJ? Meh.

Re: 88 3bet pot vs russian FULLstack
 

i think this is awful vs the player described (and i make this play quite a lot)

Re: 88 3bet pot vs russian FULLstack
 

Versus the player described you may actually get looked up too often by TT thru QQ to make this profitable. When you include AK in his range, this isn't a good shove.

Re: 88 3bet pot vs russian FULLstack
 

of course, I missed this was party. That means you are shoving purely for value, right?

Re: 88 3bet pot vs russian FULLstack
 

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of course, I missed this was party. That means you are shoving purely for value, right?

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LOL YEAH GOOD POINT WHY EVEN BOTHER POSTING PARTY HHS AMIRITE?!?!?!

Re: 88 3bet pot vs russian FULLstack
 

Man fold PF for sure, probably fold flop but if you don't then call is better than shove.

Re: 88 3bet pot vs russian FULLstack
 

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would like it a lot more w/ AA.

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LOL. THANKS

Re: 88 3bet pot vs russian FULLstack
 

i think that If he's a good player if he decides to bet in this spot with QQ or JJ he's also going to be calling a push, if he views you as good/ aggro. He will only fold air here.
I like calling one barrel here a lot more, and fold if he bets turn. It's not too exploitable if you also flatcall flop sometimes with AK, KK AA in this spot

Re: 88 3bet pot vs russian FULLstack
 

This is very wrong imo. I do not see a him calling here with JJ or QQ ever, the bet could be a c-bet but it's not like he is going to call your shove with those hand unless he have some kind of read. That said, i really don't like your shove at all, why would you bluff a player who is NOT 3-betting a lot on a K high rag board ? He is going to have AK or something like that here a lot. I think this is a massive -EV move.

Re: 88 3bet pot vs russian FULLstack
 

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russian FULLstack

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The only Russian fullstack that exists on Party is Pavel55, and he grinds lower stakes. I call B.S on this hand.

Re: 88 3bet pot vs russian FULLstack
 

I actually, for reasons unknown, thought Villain was a loose maniac till I saw he runs 19/12. I change my answer to be that this is a viable shove, as you probably aren't getting called by QQ/JJ incredibly often.

Fionnmac, I'm trying to send you a PM, your box is full.

Re: 88 3bet pot vs russian FULLstack
 

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I actually, for reasons unknown, thought Villain was a loose maniac till I saw he runs 19/12. I change my answer to be that this is a viable shove, as you probably aren't getting called by QQ/JJ incredibly often.

Fionnmac, I'm trying to send you a PM, your box is full.

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sorry, emptied now.

As for the hand, i think he might fold QQ/JJ etc sometimes, but i'm not sure how often he bets it, nits pot control c/c alot with these hands here i think.