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bluffj00 08-30-2007 05:58 AM

$5000 to invest
 
Ok I have $5,000 to invest and I have no idea what the stock, cds, and stuff to invest in. Can someone give me some good idea? I'm 18 and want to learn what to do.

JJay1231 08-30-2007 06:05 AM

Re: $5000 to invest
 
invest in your financial education or end up blowing your money

IdealFugacity 08-30-2007 09:13 AM

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https://us.etrade.com/e/t/welcome/completesavings

Shoe 08-30-2007 09:19 AM

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NTDOY or GME. I'd suggest half in each.

Fishhead24 08-30-2007 09:28 AM

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https://us.etrade.com/e/t/welcome/completesavings

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Good idea

skindog 08-30-2007 09:53 AM

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Put it all on black!

natedogg 08-30-2007 01:25 PM

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Just buy some BERK-B and don't look back. Everytime I look at my portfolio, EVERY TIME, I wish I had just bought some BERK-B instead.

natedogg

john kane 08-30-2007 01:57 PM

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Put it all on black!

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i tried that on black, lost 7 times in a row = busto.

go for red instead, seriously.

Bez 08-30-2007 02:37 PM

Re: $5000 to invest
 
Could you please tell me what this BERK-B is? I also need to invest some coin.

skindog 08-30-2007 02:46 PM

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BERK-B are B shares of Warren Buffett's holding company, Berkshire Hathaway... basically whatever he invests in. B are like A except worth 1/10 as much, to make it more accessible to regular investors. (Warren isn't fond of stock splits, so 1 A share sells for about as much as a luxury car)

Bez 08-30-2007 02:49 PM

Re: $5000 to invest
 
Thanks for the explanation. Sounds good.

skindog 08-30-2007 02:51 PM

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Buffett is a genius investor, probably the best... but even his a man of his reputation is going to find it tough to squeeze abnormal returns out of a company the size of Berkshire over long periods of time. That and he's probably going to retire soon. So I guess it all depends on what you're looking for.

PRE 08-30-2007 07:29 PM

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BERK-B are B shares of Warren Buffett's holding company, Berkshire Hathaway... basically whatever he invests in. B are like A except worth 1/10 as much, to make it more accessible to regular investors. (Warren isn't fond of stock splits, so 1 A share sells for about as much as a luxury car)

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Did you take the time to read OP's post?

skindog 08-30-2007 08:08 PM

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BERK-B are B shares of Warren Buffett's holding company, Berkshire Hathaway... basically whatever he invests in. B are like A except worth 1/10 as much, to make it more accessible to regular investors. (Warren isn't fond of stock splits, so 1 A share sells for about as much as a luxury car)

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Did you take the time to read OP's post?

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Did you take the time to read the question I was answering?

Tien 08-30-2007 10:06 PM

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Ok I have $5,000 to invest and I have no idea what the stock, cds, and stuff to invest in. Can someone give me some good idea? I'm 18 and want to learn what to do.

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You can give me your money and I will invest it for you if you want.

Tien 08-30-2007 10:06 PM

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invest in your financial education or end up blowing your money

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On a more serious note this post is spot on.


Take 5000 dollars, park it somewhere, and slowly spend that 5000$ on your financial education.

prohornblower 08-30-2007 10:15 PM

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invest in your financial education or end up blowing your money

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Take 5000 dollars, park it somewhere, and slowly spend that 5000$ on your financial education.

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slowly? You mean like in one semester?

gull 08-31-2007 01:02 AM

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Please don't listen to the posts in this thread.

Index funds are your best bet, if you can tolerate the risk of loss. Index funds have the same expected returns as individual stocks, but with much less risk.

If you can't tolerate the risk of loss, then a high-yield savings account would be good.


Try reading the sticky or searching. Your question has been asked and answered many times before. That's probably why people are giving such short responses.

captZEEbo 08-31-2007 04:26 AM

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Please don't listen to the posts in this thread.

Index funds are your best bet, if you can tolerate the risk of loss. Index funds have the same expected returns as individual stocks, but with much less risk.

If you can't tolerate the risk of loss, then a high-yield savings account would be good.


Try reading the sticky or searching. Your question has been asked and answered many times before. That's probably why people are giving such short responses.

[/ QUOTE ]gull is dead on and most people in the thread are wrong. You want something like:

vanguard total stock market fund (VTSMX) + vanguard total international stock market fund (VGTSX)

or

vanguard target retirement fund


it's been proven (no literature links off hand) that the lowest expense ratios have the best returns and passive investing (via index funds) is best for almost all investors. Vanguard has the cheapest expense ratios that you can get. If you invest in a single stock, you are betting that the stock will go up FASTER than all the wall street professionals think it will go up. But if you just invest in the stock market as a whole, you are betting that the market will continue to rise as it has since it started. You get the same expected EV by investing in the entire market but reduce the variance a ton. Park it in a passive index fund, then learn about investing if you want to eek out a few extra %s on your money, but for now it's definitely your best bet.

A benefit of the vanguard target retirement fund is you can invest in it, and then never touch it until you retire and it automatically rebalances to allow the optimal allocation of your stocks and bonds. In general, the older you get the more bonds and less stock you want (stocks have more variance and bonds have less variance) because you don't want a short term dip in the market to happen right before you retire, but when you're young you can afford a short term dip in the market b/c the longer the money is invested the less likely it will end up a losing wager.
vanguard total international (all but USA)
vanguard total stock market fund (USA)
vanguard target retirement

Shoe 08-31-2007 11:49 AM

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Index funds have the same expected returns as individual stocks, but with much less risk.


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If you do your homework, individual stocks can beat the market with less risk as well.

pureCra2z 08-31-2007 01:52 PM

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Index funds have the same expected returns as individual stocks, but with much less risk.


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If you do your homework, individual stocks can beat the market with less risk as well.

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captZEEbo 09-01-2007 04:12 AM

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Index funds have the same expected returns as individual stocks, but with much less risk.


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If you do your homework, individual stocks can beat the market with less risk as well.

[/ QUOTE ]Good luck!

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Moseley 09-01-2007 01:16 PM

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Index funds have the same expected returns as individual stocks, but with much less risk.


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If you do your homework, individual stocks can beat the market with less risk as well.

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That's correct. The vast majority of people who do their homework, beat the market and get rich. Which is why we have had to ship so many jobs to other countries. Nobody is willing to work, as they are living off of their great profits from doing their homework.

It also explains why investments into mutual funds are steadily decreasing. More and more people are realizing how accessible the info is that they need to do the proper homework in preparation of beating the market and 80% of all the mutual fund managers.

MattSuspect 09-02-2007 01:30 PM

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I won my 6th grade stock market contest 18 years ago buying nothing but berk. [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] buffett

john voight 09-03-2007 12:54 AM

Re: $5000 to invest
 
Screw education.

Unless your a bright guy, or a hard worker, your education will prolly get you a 9-5 job, where you are working for someone else.

IMO, while your young, try to learn to make money for yourself. Like the folks on digital point. Or any entrepreneur site.

OBV education is good. I am going to college. However, it is not the only road. We have been programmed to think it is. I would say:

invest the money, and try to raise capital for education somehow (job, etc...). If you are going to college, chances are it dosnt cost much;

SJSU (california state) is like 1800 a semester. 3600 a year + maybe 500 for transportation and books. (a lot more if you live there). Now Big university and Private are a diff story. SO teh question is can you afford to invest 5k and then pay for college.

Hell, I'm sure you can get into some type of program that reduces costs of education.

Anyway, I'd say look for mutual funds if your not gonna be dedicating a lot of time to your portfolio. Just pick a decent vanguard or two. Maybe put 30% in some foreign fund for some more excitement.


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