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TDouble 08-29-2007 09:24 PM

I struggle in this spot for some reason
 
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) internettexasholdem.com

CO ($99)
Button ($101.80)
SB ($301.45)
BB ($89.20)
Hero ($98.55)
MP ($8.45)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $5</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $20</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font> Hero?

Villain is solid so far, no PT stats. I know he's playing 8 tables so this is obv a premium hand but are we still shoving here?

effinA 08-29-2007 09:54 PM

Re: I struggle in this spot for some reason
 
i dont play 100nl, but i understand it to have really tight ranges in 3bet situations.....and is 5xbb raises ur norm opener??...if so, push....if not, then u might be playin face up, so folding is now an option....but i still push i think....

Erudito 08-29-2007 10:07 PM

Re: I struggle in this spot for some reason
 
I fold.

dragonystic 08-29-2007 10:13 PM

Re: I struggle in this spot for some reason
 
an 8tabler is reraising your 5x UTG raise?

this looks like a good time to fold.

ttgirl 08-29-2007 10:37 PM

Re: I struggle in this spot for some reason
 
wtf raise pot preflop. against a solid multitabler oop his range should be {AQs+, AKo, JJ+ } which you dont fair too well against, but you can either 4bet, call and take a flop ip, or shove. i think calling &gt; folding &gt; shoving.

TDouble 08-29-2007 11:10 PM

Re: I struggle in this spot for some reason
 
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wtf raise pot preflop. against a solid multitabler oop his range should be {AQs+, AKo, JJ+ } which you dont fair too well against, but you can either 4bet, call and take a flop ip, or shove. i think calling &gt; folding &gt; shoving.

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Calling 20% off my stack PF is hardly the best idea

ttgirl 08-29-2007 11:59 PM

Re: I struggle in this spot for some reason
 
what do you consider a better idea?

ttgirl 08-30-2007 12:01 AM

Re: I struggle in this spot for some reason
 
folding might actually be better than calling but i think shoving is the worst possible idea here. atleast calling we can take a flop ip and continue if we hit. what are your stats / table image?

wuwei 08-30-2007 12:08 AM

Re: I struggle in this spot for some reason
 
No history, folding is fine.

Kilillan 08-30-2007 12:09 AM

Re: I struggle in this spot for some reason
 
honestly, at 2/4+ I insta-push here against solid players.
below 2/4 it's a toss-up between fold and push.

SABR42 08-30-2007 12:13 AM

Re: I struggle in this spot for some reason
 
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folding might actually be better than calling but i think shoving is the worst possible idea here. atleast calling we can take a flop ip and continue if we hit.

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Calling is horrible because:

1) We are not stacking QQ on an A-high flop.
2) If villain has AK and you both miss, villain is likely to win the pot without showdown.
3) You don't get to see turn and river.

This is either a fold or push, leaning towards fold if villain is tight.


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