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Scary_Tiger 08-29-2007 05:19 PM

Why are the Prescott Bush threads in Politics all locked?
 
It's an interesting story and true, so I don't get why they're all instalocked. The history of one of America's most powerful families certainly seems important to me.

Sorry if this is in the wrong place, I've never been bothered by a thread locking before.

stabn 08-29-2007 05:23 PM

Re: Why are the Prescott Bush threads in Politics all locked?
 
Iron posted the reason after locking it.

iron81 08-29-2007 05:40 PM

Re: Why are the Prescott Bush threads in Politics all locked?
 
Nice to see you guys again. How are the kids? Want to get together for a round of golf? Etc, etc.

There were a couple other nitty issues with that thread, but the main one is that those kinds of threads are designed to smear the current President with rumors about what his grandfather might have done. It is utterly retarded to suggest that this has anything to do with the modern world but it leads to retarded threads (LOL Bush is a Nazi). I created that rule because that type of thread makes me angry.

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3. New threads must have some relevance to larger society. Threads consisting of smears on a public figure that do not have bearing on their ability to lead or perform their job function will not be permitted.

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tuq 08-29-2007 05:45 PM

Re: Why are the Prescott Bush threads in Politics all locked?
 
iron,

You are a relentless Bush apologist IMO.

Sayitloudernow 08-29-2007 05:51 PM

Re: Why are the Prescott Bush threads in Politics all locked?
 
You don't think our current President's Grandfather being a Nazi financier is relevant to larger society/isnt relevant to the modern world? I'm afraid I don't understand.

pepper123 08-29-2007 05:52 PM

Re: Why are the Prescott Bush threads in Politics all locked?
 
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You don't think our current President's Grandfather being a Nazi financier is relevant to larger society/isnt relevant to the modern world? I'm afraid I don't understand.

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can you explain how it IS relevant?

Scary_Tiger 08-29-2007 05:53 PM

Re: Why are the Prescott Bush threads in Politics all locked?
 
The George Bushes were barely mentioned in the thread. There were a few references to the Bush family, but primarily it wasn't about the current President. This is still American history. (And politics!)

sethypooh21 08-29-2007 05:58 PM

Re: Why are the Prescott Bush threads in Politics all locked?
 
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iron,

You are a relentless Bush apologist IMO.

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Does not compute.

I have some sympathy for Iron on this one. Even if true (which I think it is to a degree) what is the purpose of pushing such "familial guilt"? Besides, it's not like we need to call on grandpappy Bush for evidence that W is a muppet.

KotOD 08-29-2007 05:59 PM

Re: Why are the Prescott Bush threads in Politics all locked?
 
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iron,

You are a relentless Bush apologist IMO.

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THIS is the tus that OOT misses.

jman220 08-29-2007 06:02 PM

Re: Why are the Prescott Bush threads in Politics all locked?
 
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It is utterly retarded to suggest that this has anything to do with the modern world but it leads to retarded threads (LOL Bush is a Nazi). I created that rule because that type of thread makes me angry.


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ZOMG Censorship! First Amendment!!11!1!oneone!! Paging Myrtle.

ZeTurd 08-29-2007 06:05 PM

Re: Why are the Prescott Bush threads in Politics all locked?
 
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The George Bushes were barely mentioned in the thread. There were a few references to the Bush family, but primarily it wasn't about the current President. This is still American history. (And politics!)

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I like how you tacked on that little addendum there after the rest of your post basically states the opposite. Try again. How is Prescott Bush's dealings under WW II relevant for current politics?

Unless you're into nutty leftwing conspiracy theories involving skulls & bones, nazi gold, and God knows what else, I'm struggling to see the relevance.

That said, I would find a thread about Prescott Bush and his dealings interesting in another forum. Why not try OOT/TLDR/EGF?

niss 08-29-2007 06:08 PM

Re: Why are the Prescott Bush threads in Politics all locked?
 
My father once stole the Atari cartridge "Canyon Bomber" from a Bambergers.

My whole family is tainted as thieves.

Scary_Tiger 08-29-2007 06:10 PM

Re: Why are the Prescott Bush threads in Politics all locked?
 
I mean, I could understand if this was about Al Gore's drunk driving in and out of rehab son. Obviously that should have no effect on his candidacy.

But Prescott Bush allegedly tried to overthrow the United States government. I don't think discussing this is pushing 'familial guilt'. It's a big story even if his family doesn't spawn two Presidents.

Scary_Tiger 08-29-2007 06:12 PM

Re: Why are the Prescott Bush threads in Politics all locked?
 
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My father once tried to overthrow the government.

Myself and my son have since become President.

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The difference is a little bigger than you imply, yes?

niss 08-29-2007 06:13 PM

Re: Why are the Prescott Bush threads in Politics all locked?
 
Thank god he didn't steal "Basic Programming" or we'd be tainted as retards as well.

tuq 08-29-2007 06:15 PM

Re: Why are the Prescott Bush threads in Politics all locked?
 
niss,

That avatar + Loc: is awesome.

El Diablo 08-29-2007 06:22 PM

Re: Why are the Prescott Bush threads in Politics all locked?
 
iron,

"I created that rule because that type of thread makes me angry."

I think that's a retarded reason to censor threads of this nature. Of course a thread regarding a prominent politician's family (and I think Bush would qualify as such) is of relevance to political discussion.

niss 08-29-2007 06:26 PM

Re: Why are the Prescott Bush threads in Politics all locked?
 
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niss,

That avatar + Loc: is awesome.

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NO MORE YANKEE THE WANKEE

DONGER NEED FOOD

niss 08-29-2007 06:41 PM

Re: Why are the Prescott Bush threads in Politics all locked?
 
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iron,

"I created that rule because that type of thread makes me angry."

I think that's a retarded reason to censor threads of this nature. Of course a thread regarding a prominent politician's family (and I think Bush would qualify as such) is of relevance to political discussion.

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It's great then that you have your own forum, where you can decide not to "censor" threads that make you angry.

Iron's decisions have worked pretty well for the most part in staving the Politics forum off from elimination. And I agree with him that what the guy's grandfather did is of so little relevance to present-day politics that it's not worth the retardation and aggravation that is going to be generated by a thread about it.

When I get the "Niss General Discussion" forum, which Mat tells me should be up next week, I am going to censor all posts except those by Vyse, pvn, and Bobojedafan. And tuq.

NewTeaBag 08-29-2007 06:48 PM

Re: Why are the Prescott Bush threads in Politics all locked?
 
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iron,

"I created that rule because that type of thread makes me angry."

I think that's a retarded reason to censor threads of this nature. Of course a thread regarding a prominent politician's family (and I think Bush would qualify as such) is of relevance to political discussion.

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Surely this is a level. Right?

The dude who had his own forum created where one has to be "annointed" by him for the "privelege" of starting posts is ridiculing someone else's explained reason for keeping mostly irrelevant noise down in poli?

El Diablo 08-29-2007 07:00 PM

Re: Why are the Prescott Bush threads in Politics all locked?
 
niss,NTB:

Not sure how EDF has anything at all to do with my opinion of what should/shouldn't be allowed in other forums.

pepper123 08-29-2007 07:14 PM

Re: Why are the Prescott Bush threads in Politics all locked?
 
iron has decided the politics forum is for political discussion and not political gossip. those threads were part of the latter.

NT! 08-29-2007 08:10 PM

Re: Why are the Prescott Bush threads in Politics all locked?
 
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That said, I would find a thread about Prescott Bush and his dealings interesting in another forum. Why not try OOT/TLDR/EGF?

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bad idea

NewTeaBag 08-29-2007 08:20 PM

Re: Why are the Prescott Bush threads in Politics all locked?
 
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niss,NTB:

Not sure how EDF has anything at all to do with my opinion of what should/shouldn't be allowed in other forums.

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You purposefully censor which OPs can OP, what type of OPs are acceptable and to a great extent the expected type of replies in your forum based on your own explanations. Thats coolio and the gang AFIC cus it's your community and they seem to be fine with it.

Look through some of my ATF poli postings and you'll find I'm NOT iron81 fanboy#1.

In this case, though, his stickied rule and reasonable explantion seem just as or fairer than the explanations given for your own forum's rules.

eviljeff 08-29-2007 08:54 PM

Re: Why are the Prescott Bush threads in Politics all locked?
 
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That said, I would find a thread about Prescott Bush and his dealings interesting in another forum. Why not try OOT/TLDR/EGF?

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bad idea

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http://youtube.com/watch?v=f8PhzrmBgMI

Mike Pemulis 08-29-2007 09:34 PM

Re: Why are the Prescott Bush threads in Politics all locked?
 
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niss,NTB:

Not sure how EDF has anything at all to do with my opinion of what should/shouldn't be allowed in other forums.

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You purposefully censor which OPs can OP, what type of OPs are acceptable and to a great extent the expected type of replies in your forum based on your own explanations. Thats coolio and the gang AFIC cus it's your community and they seem to be fine with it.

Look through some of my ATF poli postings and you'll find I'm NOT iron81 fanboy#1.

In this case, though, his stickied rule and reasonable explantion seem just as or fairer than the explanations given for your own forum's rules.

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NTB,

The whole raison d'etre of EDF is to allow a respected poster to make those judgments as he sees fit. The point of the politics forum is to talk politics. Imagine Mason Malmuth criticizing the Oxford English Dictionary for not including the Latin root of annular--I recommend you actually do this; it's amusing--and then the OED bigwigs responding by pointing out that Mason's books don't analyze the etymology of annular either. Such criticism of Mason would clearly be silly.

~Mike

P.S. Allston Rules

tuq 08-29-2007 09:39 PM

Re: Why are the Prescott Bush threads in Politics all locked?
 
Mike Pemulis, wow that is an awesome username right there. This OP of mine may be of interest to you, if it looks like a shameless plug/attempt to steer traffic then whatever, but anyone with that username would probably have something to share about the book.

Mike Pemulis 08-29-2007 09:44 PM

Re: Why are the Prescott Bush threads in Politics all locked?
 
tuq,

Time to begin my Lounge career! I think you're such a good poster that you should be permitted the occasional advertisement-ish post.

~Mike

jman220 08-29-2007 11:10 PM

Re: Why are the Prescott Bush threads in Politics all locked?
 
This thread is boring. Where are the politics posters to liven it up.

RoundGuy 08-29-2007 11:12 PM

Re: Why are the Prescott Bush threads in Politics all locked?
 
The criminal loving pussies are too busy trying to tell me I'm wrong in the Kenneth Foster thread, ldo.

Borodog 08-30-2007 01:03 AM

Re: Why are the Prescott Bush threads in Politics all locked?
 
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This thread is boring. Where are the politics posters to liven it up.

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Anarchy yo. F the S in the A. I don't want your $100 hot dogs.

You're welcome.

[Phill] 08-30-2007 02:26 AM

Re: Why are the Prescott Bush threads in Politics all locked?
 
I think the question not answered is "where does this go?"

In as few words as possible, NT says it isnt welcome in OOT. So is something like this allowed in TL;DR? Would something like this be welcome in ElD's forum?

I dont really care, id be curious for a read and troll, but thats about it. But i think an answer to this question would tie the thread up.

iron81 08-30-2007 08:18 AM

Re: Why are the Prescott Bush threads in Politics all locked?
 
It sounds like unless Diebitter or Wookie want it (not bloody likely), nowhere. 2+2 is now in the business of hiding the Bush Family's dirty laundry. Maybe we're in on the conspiracy.

tomdemaine 08-30-2007 12:59 PM

Re: Why are the Prescott Bush threads in Politics all locked?
 
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This thread is boring. Where are the politics posters to liven it up.

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Anarchy yo. F the S in the A. I don't want your $100 hot dogs.

You're welcome.

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Don't enforce your beliefs on me you jackbooted thug!

BluffTHIS! 08-30-2007 01:02 PM

Re: Why are the Prescott Bush threads in Politics all locked?
 
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It sounds like unless Diebitter or Wookie want it (not bloody likely), nowhere. 2+2 is now in the business of hiding the Bush Family's dirty laundry. Maybe we're in on the conspiracy.

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Time for a spinoff forum from politics! "Political Conspiracies & Wacko Political Beliefs". Nielso for mod!

NewTeaBag 08-30-2007 01:19 PM

Re: Why are the Prescott Bush threads in Politics all locked?
 
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Time for a spinoff forum from politics! "Political Conspiracies & Wacko Political Beliefs". Nielso for mod!

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Didn't we already have this thread? It reached it's conclsuion but it sure was entertaining. YEAH! More poli on poli violence in ATF!

tuq 08-30-2007 01:24 PM

Re: Why are the Prescott Bush threads in Politics all locked?
 
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More poli on poli violence in ATF!

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I'm tup and I support this message. Maybe the admins can unban Cyrus and let him post only in this thread.


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