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mmbt0ne 08-29-2007 02:44 PM

Peter King\'s top 500 NFL players
 
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...100/index.html

I'm amazed anyone would bother making a list this long, but at least it gives us something to talk about.

Among my favorites:

41. Vince Young QB, Titans
42. Marvin Harrison WR, Colts
LOL

63. Calvin Johnson WR, Lions
Hater

214. Michael Vick QB, Falcons
Real kick in the face to those other 276

459. Joey Harrington QB, Falcons
Like this guy

Jack of Arcades 08-29-2007 02:46 PM

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I like Kevin Williams getting some love.

Jack of Arcades 08-29-2007 02:47 PM

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lol Wes Welker is above Anquan Boldin and Marques Colston.

capone0 08-29-2007 02:57 PM

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He has Adalius at #21, way too high. He must have on Pat colored glasses. Bush at #19 is way too high. He's good, but not rediculous just yet.

Case Closed 08-29-2007 03:00 PM

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The top 15 should be QBs. Urlacher at 7 is comical.

Triumph36 08-29-2007 03:02 PM

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The top 15 should be QBs. Urlacher at 7 is comical.

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You guys are forgetting that Urlacher is white and that Wes Welker is now a Patriot (and white).

NozeCandy 08-29-2007 03:11 PM

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When I read this I can't believe someone would spend so much time on something so few people would actually read in-depth.

tolbiny 08-29-2007 03:13 PM

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When I read this I can't believe someone would spend so much time on something so few people would actually read in-depth.

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When I read this I realize that he didn't spend very much time on it at all.

Jack of Arcades 08-29-2007 03:13 PM

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The top 15 should be QBs. Urlacher at 7 is comical.

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I think there is merit in having Champ, Peppers, and Seymour up there.

MacGuyV 08-29-2007 03:16 PM

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lol Wes Welker is above Anquan Boldin and Marques Colston.

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I don't like Harb Arkush but he had a fantastic quote on radio:
"The legend of Wes Welker has grown a lot since signing in NE".
Nice player, but to me he's like Roscoe Parrish.

Jack of Arcades 08-29-2007 03:25 PM

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Roscoe Parrish is awesome.

Edit: clearly, he's a top 15 player.

TheNoodleMan 08-29-2007 03:37 PM

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41. Vince Young QB, Titans
42. Marvin Harrison WR, Colts
LOL



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You left out the best part, which is the comments.

41. Vince Young QB, Titans May succeed Vick in role of NFL's Jordan
42. Marvin Harrison WR, Colts At 35, slipping a bit and not as physical

When was Vick the NFL Jordan?

If Marvin is slipping its very slightly. His numbers are down a little, but its obviously a result of having other talented receivers around him. As far as the "physical" comment, he was never remotely physical, so he hasn't become any less physical.

hoyasnaxa 08-29-2007 03:50 PM

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King is a moron. His fantasy draft this year for sports illustrated is one of the worst teams ever assembled. I dont understand how he is an NFL expert, or how he can watch something so much and understand it so little.

Jack of Arcades 08-29-2007 04:05 PM

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LOL http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...ain/index.html

King took Lynch #8 overall.

Spellmen 08-29-2007 04:18 PM

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Antonio Gates TE, Chargers A more muscular Kellen Winslow

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I'm pretty speechless on this one

Wes Mantooth 08-29-2007 04:22 PM

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"113. Brett Favre QB, Packers At 37, in best shape of his life "

hoyasnaxa 08-29-2007 04:53 PM

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LOL http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...ain/index.html

King took Lynch #8 overall.

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Some of the other teams are just as bad. Sabino's receivers are Calvin johnson, devin hester, roscoe parrish, robert meachem. The structure is also retarded with any TD being 10 points. There is maybe 1 good team.

dlk9s 08-29-2007 04:58 PM

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"113. Brett Favre QB, Packers At 37, in best shape of his life "

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Are you saying this is too low, too high, that he's not in the best shape of his life? I'm a little confused as to why you singled this one out.

Oh, and I agree about Marvin Harrison. LOL.

SL__72 08-29-2007 05:15 PM

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"113. Brett Favre QB, Packers At 37, in best shape of his life "

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Are you saying this is too low, too high, that he's not in the best shape of his life? I'm a little confused as to why you singled this one out.

Oh, and I agree about Marvin Harrison. LOL.

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He ranked him way too low and then the reason is an untrue statement about why he ranked him so high.

NozeCandy 08-29-2007 05:22 PM

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Yeah, after reading his comments a little bit more, this thing is hilariously lol.

J.R. 08-29-2007 05:24 PM

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LOL http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...ain/index.html

King took Lynch #8 overall.

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Some of the other teams are just as bad. Sabino's receivers are Calvin johnson, devin hester, roscoe parrish, robert meachem. The structure is also retarded with any TD being 10 points. There is maybe 1 good team.

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??

Santana Moss not a WR? CJ and S.Moss is not bad for a 12 team league, especially when your QB is Bulger and you start 3 top 25ish rbs (Maroney, McGahee and Duece), have a decent RB backup (J.Jones) and a top 6 or so TE (V. Davis).

PokerFink 08-29-2007 05:54 PM

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McNabb at #72 below a guy who has never played a down in the NFL (Calvin #63), and also below three quarterbacks that he is unquestionably better than (Young #41, Rivers #38, Hasselbeck #20).

I mean, I know he said age matters, so that can help explain Rivers and Young. But Hasselbeck is older than McNabb.

34TheTruth34 08-29-2007 06:02 PM

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Champ Bailey at 6 and Nate Clements at 49? Hmm...

hoyasnaxa 08-29-2007 06:16 PM

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LOL http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...ain/index.html

King took Lynch #8 overall.

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??

Santana Moss not a WR? CJ and S.Moss is not bad for a 12 team league, especially when your QB is Bulger and you start 3 top 25ish rbs (Maroney, McGahee and Duece), have a decent RB backup (J.Jones) and a top 6 or so TE (V. Davis).

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Didnt see santana, my bad. either way that league sucks.

capone0 08-29-2007 06:19 PM

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Champ Bailey at 6 and Nate Clements at 49? Hmm...

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He has Winfield (a bit overrated), Mathis (very good), Asomugha (very good), in between those two. I think Clements is slightly better. I think he has favored Seattle, San Diego and NE over some other teams. Those teams are very good but still they don't deserve that many players in the top 50 in the league.

I think Gore is underrated, #72 is way low. I guess injury concerns might leave you here, but he did lead the NFC in rushing last year. If he's going to put Kerrey Rhodes at #29 for being so young and so good I don't see how he ranks certain players.

As someone pointed out Matt H at #20 is pretty rediculous. Roy Williams (WR) is better than #90. Westbrook is better than #96. Pacman should be hire especially if Hester is that high. Eli is too high. I guess Roy Williams (SS) is right where he belongs, maybe too high. Lee Evans should be higher. Colston way too low. Bob Sanders is way too low 196. Mario Williams is way too low. I think Landry (Redskins) is too low. Then again I like Rookies.

BillNye 08-29-2007 06:42 PM

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Champ Bailey at 6 and Nate Clements at 49? Hmm...

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He has Winfield (a bit overrated), Mathis (very good), Asomugha (very good), in between those two. I think Clements is slightly better.

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I dont think Winfield is the 2nd best CB (which by the way you typed your post It looks that way but I didnt double check the article). So maybe King has him overated but he has never made a probowl, so in general he is vastly underated.

BillNye 08-29-2007 06:43 PM

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214. Michael Vick QB, Falcons
Real kick in the face to those other 276


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Vick should either be way higher or off the list completely, King provides no reasoning either.

It would be very difficult to rank 500 NFL players, but just compare where he has Hasselbeck to and where he has McNabb, what a joke.

Thremp 08-29-2007 06:45 PM

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214. Michael Vick QB, Falcons
Real kick in the face to those other 276


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Vick should either be way higher or off the list completely, King provides no reasoning either.

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WTF? He should be off the list. Not because he is going to jail, but because he sucks at football.

EvanJC 08-29-2007 06:49 PM

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lolbad

bones 08-29-2007 09:15 PM

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Aaron Kampman at 16.

wow...

Jcrew 09-01-2007 01:04 AM

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246. Randy Moss WR, Patriots Hurt by Week 2 or 15 TDs Who knows

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vixticator 09-01-2007 01:20 AM

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WTF top 500? Peter King is insane. No comment on list, er maybe later. 500!?!??!

edit: The criteria: importance of the position (I had quarterback, left tackle, pass rusher and cornerback at the top, but with room for the explosive player), talent level and age -- with a nod to young players on the cusp of a breakout season (I rank opportunistic Jets safety Kerry Rhodes 29th.

LOL. Okay.............

Palmer should be 3rd, Rivers higher. WTF McNabb 72. wow.

Pudge714 09-01-2007 01:44 AM

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How many consecutive years has Brett Favre been in the best shape of his life? By 100 I expect him to be made out of solid gold.

Triumph36 09-01-2007 01:45 AM

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Aaron Kampman at 16.

wow...

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According to FO, Aaron Kampman is insanely good.

Sayitloudernow 09-01-2007 02:46 AM

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thought this was pretty funny:

King fantasy draft:
King 2 5 17 Adrian Peterson RB
Mravic 2 6 18 Reggie Bush RB

King's Top 500:
19. Reggie Bush RB-KR, Saints
243. Adrian Peterson RB, Vikings

dlk9s 09-01-2007 03:07 AM

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Aaron Kampman at 16.

wow...

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According to FO, Aaron Kampman is insanely good.

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I thought Kampman at 16 was nuts, but in the actual physical issue of SI, King goes into more detail on this ranking. It actually made some sense.

SuperUberBob 09-01-2007 03:23 AM

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lol @ a tight end being 15th.

Eagles 09-01-2007 04:00 PM

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LOL http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...ain/index.html

King took Lynch #8 overall.

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When I first read this I thought you were talking about John Lynch.

MacGuyV 09-03-2007 12:41 PM

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MMQB

Didn't want to start another thread; I thought this was a pretty good read on what it's like to be a bubble guy.

Dr. Zoidberg 09-03-2007 12:50 PM

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132. Jordan Gross T, Panthers LT, RT ... it's all the same to him

134. Jammal Brown T, Saints MVP of a rebuilt offensive line

WTF?? Brown is a franchise LEFT TACKLE. Gross is a decent RIGHT TACKLE.

How dumb can you be?


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