Harrah\'s AC trip report
 

I haven't seen a Harrah's AC trip report on here in a while so I thought I'd share. I usually play at Harrah's, and never see them get much props. Actually my trip report was two separate runs on Weds. and Sun.

We put our name on the list for 1/2 NL at about 10p on Weds. and although there was about 10 names, they called us one at a time and didn't open a new table. We finally got a seat after a modest 20 minute wait. The table was full of some regulars who played well and tourists who did not have a clue. I was impressed with the number of times we were offered drinks and how cool the dealers were. After about 2 hours of play I see-sawed up and down. I went up on a straight flush that i made to the Jc that did not make the high hand of the day, which would have netted me $200 in comp dollars...oh well. I think I ended down 40 bucks.

Sunday was more interesting. Arriving at noon, we lucked out with 4 seats available and 4 of us playing. We sat down to what had to be the tightest table ever. This was a patience table, because chasing was futile. A few dealers were a bit slow dealing, but again drink service was top notch. My hand of the day was holding A10o and the flop was A A 10. The tight wad table limped in 7 players and then checked around the flop. The turn was a J and finally I said $10 to go. I was very happy to be raised and re-raised. The river was a blank and after another re-raise and almost 150 dollar pot, I took it down to A9o and J7s. It was tight vs. tighter. I had the cards to net about 190 for the session...not bad considering.

All in all, very happy with the Harrah's "weekend".

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I dislike most of the dealers at Harrahs. There are four dealers there I like who don't push the action and beg for tips. The others are terrible who complain about how they can't bills.

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I dislike most of the dealers at Harrahs. There are four dealers there I like who don't push the action and beg for tips. The others are terrible who complain about how they can't bills.

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Yea, earlier this year I was there for their WSOP Circuit Events. One night they spread a 5-10 NL game in the poker room (Rare for Harrah's, games this big usually only get spread at The Borgata) and I was playing in it. I won a hand where I stacked another player and threw $2 on my cards and the dealer threw the money back at me and said he didn't want my money.

A friend of mine was also playing at the table and he got REALLY pissed about this. He called out the dealer for not accepting the tip and said that it was disrespectful to single me out like that. They exchanged some words, and that was the end of it. I stayed quiet for most of the incident, mostly out of shock.

The pot was around $2000 but I tipped him the same way I tip everyone. Based on the fact that I won the hand not on the size of the pot. I play for a living and as far as I am concerned a dealer does the same amount of work when I win as when I lose. I tip $1-3 dollars for the same reason I don't disrespect or verbally bash dealers when I lose, they have no control over the cards.

Looking back I still think that the dealer was in the wrong for causing a scene like that, but to be honest I could care less about the situation. I tipped him, if he doesn't want to accept thats his problem.

-Jerry

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He was 100% wrong. If you had called the floor over that's an instant write up. Do you remember which dealer it was? Cause I think remember hearing about this story when it happened.

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This is crazy. Why would any dealer ever think they deserved a bigger tip for a bigger pot? Did it take more effort to deal the hand?

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Tipping $1 for a $10k pot is standard. Don't worry about it.

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This is crazy. Why would any dealer ever think they deserved a bigger tip for a bigger pot? Did it take more effort to deal the hand?

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Tipping is out of control in AC 1-2 and 2-5 NL and this has caused a dealer expectation. I didn't see it as much in Vegas and at 5-10NL in AC the tipping drops drastically. My roommate (poster) deals at Harrah's and has gotten $40 tips in 1-2 but I am sure he appreciates a buck no matter the size of the pot.

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I know who the dealer is. I knew I heard this story before. You're right about the tipping on a 1-2, 2-5 in Atlantic City. I tip well and when I started playing 1-5 stud instead of NL, the dealers at Harrah's kept asking me to come back over to the NL side. I know they are pumping me for tips and it's rather annoying.

Does your roommate deal at Harrahs in AC or Vegas?

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Guess I will post my dealer tip story from last Friday too. Was playing around midnight at a 1/2 NL table at the Borgata when a tourist on my right won a 400 dollar pot. He won with a crazy hand and in his excitement forgot to tip. The dealer whose name was Lee did not let this go. He grabbed a spacing chip and rapped the table by his tip box several times. Then the next time when it was that players button, the dealer only dealt him 1 card. Then when the tourist spoke up, the dealer said " Oh did I forget something? " Then dealt him his final card.

I was utterly disgusted by the dealers behavior, and for whatever reason did not mention it to the floor. I should have though, but at the time I was too worried about making a scene and upsetting the two fish to my right.


I'm probably part of the problem though, whenever I stack someone for 200 bucks or more I tip a redbird. This is the only time I have seen a Borgata dealer blatantly ask for a tip/get upset.

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I've seen a couple Borgata dealers say or do something to remind someone that they forgot to tip. The one I remember best is that while he was getting ready to deal the next hand (well after he pushed the pot and gathered the cards), he says to the winner, "nice pot, sir". Then they guy says, "Oh, I forgot!" and flips him a couple whites. The player didn't mind, but I didn't like that the dealer was fishing for his tip.

I've seen another dealer there say to the next dealer, "watch out for seat 4," which was a player that was stiffing him on tips. What's he going to "watch out" for?

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Tipping can be a touchy subject.

I do feel for the dealers who are alert and doing their job getting stiffed.

They need to make a living too.

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Players need to say something when they see a dealer not getting tipped. Just something, like, "hey why don't you throw the dealer or a buck" or "don't forget your dealer."

I also despise when dealers say '"nice hand" or "nice pot" and will tip them less when they do this and then tell them why they are only getting a buck on a big pot.

It's not nice for the person who just lost the pot, whether it's me or not. So, don't nice hand me or anyone else.

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I think the whole idea of tipping is ridiculous. The dealer has a job and gets paid to do it. If you win a pot and want to tip the dealer you can. If you win a pot and don't want to tip YOU DO NOT HAVE TO, and should not have to feel bad about it. People don't go into department stores and tip the cashier for doing her job fast or correct, what makes a dealer any different. Its really like saying to someone in any job hey heres extra money for doing what you are already paid to do. They are not forced to deal so if they have a probably with their salary go find a different profession.

Statements like "They are trying to make a living" burn me up. If they want a living then goto school and get a better job. The pizza delivery guy is trying to make a living too, but why do we have to tip him when he is getting paid to deliver pizza's. Is it our fault that the pizza place doesn't pay much? Or that he/she is dumb enough to work for those wages? I think not.

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Tipping is a courtesy thing. It's not necessary, no one will call the floor and say you aren't tipping... We tip waiters and waitresses because they are doing us a service by delivering our food. The dealer is doing us a service by delivering our cards, organizing pots, and keeping the game moving quickly and smoothly. If a waitress doesn't serve you well, it is ok to leave a marginal tip/not leave a tip. If they do a good job and are courteous and pleaseing, they it is customary to show them respect in the form of the dollar.

Also, there are dealers that are very intelligent people, so i wouldnt bash them on their intellignence. I had a dealer who was an MIT grad and we spoke about Aerospace physics at the table. It's unfair to classify these people as "too stupid" to work somewhere else. People who deal usually do because they enjoy the gaming atmosphere and/or enjoy the game.

PS. Where in philly you from and where do you play? AC? Home game?

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I wasn't trying to say they are all stupid. But if you are in a job and complaining about money, then get a different one. if i didn't like my salary as software engineer i'd go do something else.

I'm from NE Philly, i play online of course, AC every now and again, and yea home game weekly.

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I am glad this thread has devolved into a tipping thread. We don't get the chance to read people's thoughts on tipping very often in B&M.

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I am glad this thread has devolved into a tipping thread. We don't get the chance to read people's thoughts on tipping very often in B&M.

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Hahah tru that,
I didnt even realise what thread this was in... My appologies for adding to the wrongnessss [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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I think the whole idea of tipping is ridiculous. The dealer has a job and gets paid to do it. If you win a pot and want to tip the dealer you can. If you win a pot and don't want to tip YOU DO NOT HAVE TO, and should not have to feel bad about it. People don't go into department stores and tip the cashier for doing her job fast or correct, what makes a dealer any different. Its really like saying to someone in any job hey heres extra money for doing what you are already paid to do. They are not forced to deal so if they have a probably with their salary go find a different profession.

Statements like "They are trying to make a living" burn me up. If they want a living then goto school and get a better job. The pizza delivery guy is trying to make a living too, but why do we have to tip him when he is getting paid to deliver pizza's. Is it our fault that the pizza place doesn't pay much? Or that he/she is dumb enough to work for those wages? I think not.

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So you don't tip waiters/waitresses in restaurants? I mean they're just doing their job. Why should we tip them? Perhaps because they get paid < $2.35/hour because their employers know that their customers will tip them after their meal. Dealers are no different. Their hourly wages are similar to waiters/waitresses (if they even get hourly wages in AC). Please stop being cheap. If you are going to continue being cheap, then just continue playing online. God I hate cheap people. What difference does extra $5 make to your big pot? Share the wealth a bit with the dealers (I'm not a dealer. I have friends that used to be dealers so I understand their point of view).