Anyone who plays on Full Tilt, or plans on it - Read This!
Here is the last hand I played in a tournament in which I believe I could have made it into the top 3... possibly first place. Everything was going well until we got to the money, then this happened. The key parts to the hand are in bold... Notice the chat before the flop comes down...
-------------------------------------------------------------------- *********** # 162 ************** FullTiltPoker Game #3265388264: $5 + $0.50 Tournament (24879059), Table 23 - 500/1000 Ante 125 - No Limit Hold'em - 22:43:33 ET - 2007/08/15 Seat 1: misterchames (20,717) Seat 2: AcesUp123 (14,881) Seat 3: tyler318 (23,680) Seat 4: Burello (21,392) Seat 5: icegator2 (13,876) Seat 6: LuckySweety (30,139) Seat 7: RDS45 (3,645) Seat 8: Sid Vegas (28,250) Seat 9: Jfrisella (8,430) misterchames antes 125 AcesUp123 antes 125 tyler318 antes 125 Burello antes 125 icegator2 antes 125 LuckySweety antes 125 RDS45 antes 125 Sid Vegas antes 125 Jfrisella antes 125 Sid Vegas posts the small blind of 500 Jfrisella posts the big blind of 1,000 The button is in seat #7 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to AcesUp123 [Ad 2d] misterchames folds AcesUp123 raises to 14,756, and is all in tyler318 folds Burello folds icegator2 has 15 seconds left to act icegator2 has requested TIME icegator2 calls 13,751, and is all in LuckySweety folds RDS45 folds Sid Vegas calls 14,256 Sid Vegas: WTF Jfrisella has 15 seconds left to act Sid Vegas: I did not CALL Jfrisella: im folding tens Sid Vegas: I didnt even push a button Jfrisella has timed out Jfrisella folds AcesUp123 shows [Ad 2d] icegator2 shows [Ah Kh] Sid Vegas shows [8d Qc] Jfrisella: i should call *** FLOP *** [8c 5c Js] *** TURN *** [8c 5c Js] [2c] *** RIVER *** [8c 5c Js 2c] [8h] AcesUp123 shows two pair, Eights and Twos Sid Vegas shows three of a kind, Eights Sid Vegas wins the side pot (2,010) with three of a kind, Eights icegator2 shows a pair of Eights Sid Vegas wins the main pot (43,37 with three of a kind, Eights Sid Vegas: HAHAHAHAHAAHHAAHAHAHAH *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 45,388 Main pot 43,378. Side pot 2,010. | Rake 0 Board: [8c 5c Js 2c 8h] Seat 1: misterchames folded before the Flop Seat 2: AcesUp123 showed [Ad 2d] and lost with two pair, Eights and Twos Seat 3: tyler318 folded before the Flop Seat 4: Burello folded before the Flop Seat 5: icegator2 showed [Ah Kh] and lost with a pair of Eights Seat 6: LuckySweety folded before the Flop Seat 7: RDS45 (button) folded before the Flop Seat 8: Sid Vegas (small blind) showed [8d Qc] and won (45,38 with three of a kind, Eights Seat 9: Jfrisella (big blind) folded before the Flop -------------------------------------------------------------------- Now... I know from playing multiple hands with him, that Sid Vegas would not even consider calling that, and the fact that he said what he said before any cards even came up, there is no question in my mind that this happened because of some outside force. I have actually had this same thing happen to me where I did not click anything but the software automatically called or folded my hand. It was only in limit games, so it was not a big deal. In my calculations, I would have been in roughly 3rd place in the tournament if this outside force was not present, but instead, I got put out. I emailed Full Tilt Poker security about this, and here is what they sent back. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Thank you for contacting Full Tilt Poker Customer Support. After reviewing the hand history, we have seen that there was no technical errors during hand number 3265388264. Are finding have shown that player ID Sid Vegas, did press the call button. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Not only a complete grammatical disaster, but also, there was obviously no investigation done to even warrant a reply. Are these the type of people on Full Tilt who are protecting us from collusion and other problems these sites experience every day? All of my money is now gone from that site, and I suggest to anyone who has money on Full Tilt Poker that they remove it swiftly and find another place to play for cash. I know that most sites take security seriously, but it is quite apparent that Full Tilt does not. -------------------- My 2 Cents! |
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lol
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wow. Thanks for the heads up. This puts the end to my speculation. My money is so outta there.
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Agreed, that's enough for me. I'm out.
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If anyone should be upset it was the AKs cat that had him beat and you crushed!!!!!!!Classic lol
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1. Bad push by you.
2. There used to be a glitch when typing in chat when multitabling, table would steal focus and when you hit enter in chat it would call you at the other table. Thought it was fixed tho. 3. "there is no question in my mind that this happened because of some outside force"...like a Star Wars thing? |
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wow. Thanks for the heads up. This puts the end to my speculation. My money is so outta there. [/ QUOTE ] hahaha same |
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this proves it, ftp is rigged!!!!
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OP is giving bad name to pokeraddicts everywhere.
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I've played almost 20 hands already on FTP and NOT ONCE did the software autowin for me!
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So I'm assuming that if it was reversed, and it was YOUR hand that was pushed in against your will and winning you the pot, you'd still be on here complaining, and pulling all your money from FT?
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holy [censored] i can't believe it
this is the worst post on 2+2 for so many reasons well done |
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why push UTG+1 with A2s especially with three shorter stacks at the table?
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get over it you suck playing a2 period
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Just Wow.
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my money is out
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holy [censored] i can't believe it this is the worst post on 2+2 for so many reasons well done [/ QUOTE ] That's pretty damn funny coming from you. |
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my money is out [/ QUOTE ] |
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This has happened to me on my girlfriend's crappy laptop. The touchpad sucks. It didn't have anything to do with which site, though.
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this should be banworthy
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lol [/ QUOTE ] |
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Are finding have shown that player ID Sid Vegas, did press the call button. [/ QUOTE ] When did FTP start using PartyPoker tech support? |
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I had a guy to my immediate left complain about the same thing once durring a tournament on FT. I raised, he folded almost immediately. he started complaining he was folded without intervention on his part. He claimed to have aces. I didn't think much about it at the time. He was livid.
When i read this I wondered if it could have been true. |
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I've played almost 20 hands already on FTP and NOT ONCE did the software autowin for me! [/ QUOTE ] [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] OP: You have to email FTP support & specifically ask for a non-rigged account. A2 [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img] |
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I had a guy to my immediate left complain about the same thing once durring a tournament on FT. I raised, he folded almost immediately. he started complaining he was folded without intervention on his part. He claimed to have aces. I didn't think much about it at the time. He was livid. When i read this I wondered if it could have been true. [/ QUOTE ] So where's the part where they rig the deck to make you lose? |
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A2 suited used to be my favorite hand because it was an Ace, could make a flush, and had straight possibilities. But that was when I played for play money and didn't know what I was doing.
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No mention of the buyin yet and the solid read on Sid from the multiple $5 MTTS they play.
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Actually, this did happen to me once but it was because FTP was lagging badly (isn't so bad for me now.) I had clicked the fold button but the lag kicked in and I went on monkey tilt clicking 100 times and I actually moved the mouse a bit and clicked call by the time it registered. Certainly not any outside force, but with the lag, I could see something similar happening here.
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Great post OP. I hope you and other 2+2 just leave FTP and move to stars. This way it will leave more fish for me and less TAG.
all 2+2 should consider move from FTP please lol. [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img] |
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nice shove.
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Hey... To be totally honest here, I pushed with A2 diamonds only because I had 15 minutes to get to work... I figured I could coast further if I won the hand, or go out in a blaze of glory if I lost... If I lost that hand fairly, then I would have no qualms about it... but I did not lose fairly. The software put my chips into Sid's stack...
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So just as an FYI, even if he folded, you were still a huge dog. The TT would probably have called, and you'd have less chips than you started with.
But shoving A2... I can see why you would've made it to the top 3. |
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I know the 10's most likely would have called, but the way that guy played, I doubt it. He had folded AK for a 3X BB raise just a few hands before... scared player... There is a 50/50 chance he would have called. If he didnt, and If the software did not screw me out of my donk win, then I might have coasted into some real money instead of just getting a little more than the buy in...
Like I said, I only shoved A2 because of circumstances... |
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I just lost 5 coin flips in 5 50$ SNGs...my vote is rigged
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This is a clear case of divine intervention. This is why the Christian movement is sweeping through the poker player community. It pays to have faith.
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this should custom title worthy [/ QUOTE ] |
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Hey... To be totally honest here, I pushed with A2 diamonds only because I had 15 minutes to get to work... I figured I could coast further if I won the hand, or go out in a blaze of glory if I lost... If I lost that hand fairly, then I would have no qualms about it... but I did not lose fairly. The software put my chips into Sid's stack... [/ QUOTE ] LMAO. So you really think that even if your A2 wins the hand that you can wrap up a multi tourney in 15 minutes with like 8 people left? Hahahhahahahaahhahahahahahah. Also, it's always guys with less than 10 posts on 2+2 that get screwed by the sites. |
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Couple of things from me. I used to have that call thing happen sometimes when I was using a cheap cordless mouse (my only explanation was the mouse sending some kind of signal). Also I wonder why Sid mentioned the prob before the last player acted. He certainly did not want another caller and his comment could possibly make the last player a liitle more likely to call. The last to act even said I "should have called". |
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This happens on laptops sometimes. Laptops suck and love to make the mouse click randomly.
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#1 - I said if I won, I could sit out and coast into bigger money... I would get blinded out while I was at work...
#2 - Sid only said WTF before the last player acted as far as I can remember... maybe not, but I thought so at the time... |
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