I 4bet light and flop pair
 

only 100 hands on him, not much to go on, seems very aggro, running hot and having $$$ thrown at him.

saw him 3bet, shove over a 4bet with jj into a fish's ak. I've been active in bvb situations, he 3bet me and i folded, other times he's called me down light.

First time i've 4bet him.

30/22/2.16


Seat 1: <font color="#000000">BTN</font> ($109,50)
Seat 3: <font color="#990000">Hero</font> ($101,65)
Seat 5: <font color="#000000">BB</font> ($328,55)
Seat 6: <font color="#000000">UTG</font> ($40,40)
Seat 8: <font color="#000000">UTG+1</font> ($135,65)
Seat 10: <font color="#000000">CO</font> ($181,69)

<font color="#990000">Hero</font> posts small blind of $0,50
<font color="#000000">BB</font> posts big blind of $1,00

<font color="#990000">Hero</font> is dealt 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img],9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

<font color="#000000">UTG</font> folds
<font color="#000000">UTG+1</font> folds
<font color="#000000">CO</font> folds
<font color="#000000">BTN</font> folds
<font color="#990000">Hero</font> raises to $4,00
<font color="#000000">BB</font> raises to $15,00
<font color="#990000">Hero</font> raises to $39,00
<font color="#000000">BB</font> calls $24,00


Dealing flop 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img],4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img],8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
Pot is: $83,50

shove? c/c? give up?

I've 60 left.

Re: I 4bet light and flop pair
 

c/f

Re: I 4bet light and flop pair
 

I dont think this is the kind of guy you want to 4bet light with 89o

And c/f flop

Re: I 4bet light and flop pair
 

PF is ridiculously spew. Fold on the flop now

Re: I 4bet light and flop pair
 

Fold pf. Since your didn't (which isn't THAT bad. I actually don't mid your move), just push. I'm not folding my hand on this board. Folding is ridiculous.

Stats are meh. The question is: Is this guy GOOD?

blah, blah, blah. ok this board being paired actually sux ballz. I still dont fold cuz i have $60 left &lt;3

Re: I 4bet light and flop pair
 

Bet 7/ call push.

Re: I 4bet light and flop pair
 

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Bet 7/ call push.

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omg, this is fking brilliant

Re: I 4bet light and flop pair
 

4bet is ok once in a while

check flop and take it from there against this guy

Re: I 4bet light and flop pair
 

1 vote for shove.

Re: I 4bet light and flop pair
 

c/f is correct since he's never folding better and you have like 10% equity against better - but if you're going to spew like this you may as well keep it up and shove the flop. $46 (after factoring in your equity) to look like a tilting nutjob to the entire table and hey - maybe he has AK.

Re: I 4bet light and flop pair
 

Giving up would be JH*U^^*&amp;KJKO... So instashove and spike onother 8 just in case..

Re: I 4bet light and flop pair
 

I would check/fold, I really don't think he's just calling your 4-bet with AQ/AK PF if there's not even a PSB left post flop.. and he's never folding an over-pair.

Re: I 4bet light and flop pair
 

pf is fine c/f flop

Re: I 4bet light and flop pair
 

assuming his range is AQs+ AKo TT+ it is a narrow shove as he has 65% equity, but with that much in the pot . . .), but his range could easily be KQs+, AJs+ TT+ in which case he only has 53% equity. then factor in the chances of him being an idiot and calling AI with A high I would say it is a profitable shove, but rubbish pre.

Re: I 4bet light and flop pair
 

We have 10% equity vs overpairs. Each time we get it in vs an overpair we lose $40 (.1 * (83+60) - .9*60).

Vs 2 overcards we have 75% equity. IF we can get it in vs them then we make $92 (.75 * (83+60) - .25*60).


sooooo if you think he has overcards 33% of the time here and will shove if you check then check/call. otherwise check fold.

personally, i think his range is weighted really far towards pairs. AA/KK are most likely, with a possibility of JJ/TT waiting to see a non-ace flop (i'll do that sometimes vs really aggros instead of flipping pf). he's not calling/folding anything you want him to so shoving is silly.

Re: I 4bet light and flop pair
 

On an unpaired board i'd probably stack off. Here's you're probably drawing to 2 outs, so i c/f.