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LOLDONKBETZ 08-22-2007 11:52 AM

NL25, JJ utg vs reg
 
Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $26.85
BB: $25.00
Hero (UTG): $37.00
CO: $19.15
BTN: $38.70

Preflop: Hero is dealt J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $1.00</font>, 3 folds, BB calls $0.75

Flop: ($2.10) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $1.50</font>, BB calls $1.50

Turn: ($5.10) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: ($5.10) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $3.50</font>...

Hero ? (this is against s0cke, competent reg who knows what he's doing

he's 8/4/1 over 25 hands at the table. JJ can't be good can it?

traz 08-22-2007 11:55 AM

Re: NL25, JJ utg vs reg
 
don't fold

edit-- didn't notice board paired on river, sorry. I don't really know. This is a marginal spot where reads are really needed. I probably call though.

Capitan23 08-22-2007 11:58 AM

Re: NL25, JJ utg vs reg
 
JJ can be good, if he's competent theres a good chance hes just betting out because of you're turn check. Call here.

LOLDONKBETZ 08-22-2007 11:58 AM

Re: NL25, JJ utg vs reg
 
Well I think his range here is 22-TT, 89s, 78s, 56s, 67s, don't think he's calling flop with an ace, or flatting preflop with QQ-AA to trap, and his check/call on the flop felt like a set. Fold ?

jack492505 08-22-2007 12:05 PM

Re: NL25, JJ utg vs reg
 
Well checking on the turn underepped your hand, but I'm not sure if he is ever doing this with air. That being said if he's betting this with any overpair, you have to call. Being as tight as he is I don't see an 8 or a 2 in this range PF, so I think his range is weigthed towards overpairs. I'd call, but maybe that's not a great play.

Holdem_Hussl4 08-22-2007 12:14 PM

Re: NL25, JJ utg vs reg
 
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don't fold

edit-- didn't notice board paired on river, sorry. I don't really know. This is a marginal spot where reads are really needed. I probably call though.

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Hail Eris 08-22-2007 12:28 PM

Re: NL25, JJ utg vs reg
 
Call.

bung 08-22-2007 12:48 PM

Re: NL25, JJ utg vs reg
 
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Well I think his range here is 22-TT, 89s, 78s, 56s, 67s, don't think he's calling flop with an ace, or flatting preflop with QQ-AA to trap, and his check/call on the flop felt like a set. Fold ?

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I think his range would be much tighter than that. I don't think he's cold-calling with suited connectors here. Sometimes he has QQ, mostly he has 99-TT. I can call here.

bozzer 08-22-2007 01:03 PM

Re: NL25, JJ utg vs reg
 
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Sometimes he has QQ, mostly he has 99-TT. I can call here.

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He can't be valuebetting these hands though. (or if he is it is very thin.)

CobraGoat 08-22-2007 01:04 PM

Re: NL25, JJ utg vs reg
 
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Well I think his range here is 22-TT, 89s, 78s, 56s, 67s, don't think he's calling flop with an ace, or flatting preflop with QQ-AA to trap, and his check/call on the flop felt like a set. Fold ?

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I think his range would be much tighter than that. I don't think he's cold-calling with suited connectors here. Sometimes he has QQ, mostly he has 99-TT. I can call here.

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easy call. this looks like you have overs to villain. how many times do you raise PF, cbet flop, check turn and have to fold to a bet from villain on river? yes, he might show up with an 8 here but more likely he has a worse pair than yours or overs.

Hail Eris 08-22-2007 01:06 PM

Re: NL25, JJ utg vs reg
 
I don't think value-betting 99-TT is all that thin here.

monkeymaps 08-22-2007 01:06 PM

Re: NL25, JJ utg vs reg
 
if this is a "competent" reg how does he not get the pot bigger by the river if your beat? I can never fold this getting 2-1 or better maybe this is a leak?

barabe 08-22-2007 01:28 PM

Re: NL25, JJ utg vs reg
 
over 25 hands, you cant tell anything about him. i would have bet into him on the turn, which would've simplified my move on the following round.

kitchma 08-22-2007 01:56 PM

Re: NL25, JJ utg vs reg
 
If he is a competent reg, there are few hands he would call an UTG raise with from the bb that have an 8. To villain this looks exactly like you have whiffed overs. You induced a bluff, now call.


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