Raise or call this river?
 

20-40 live 9 handed. I have TAG image and running real well. I have shown down nothing but big hands KK,AA after raising preflop. The game has one very loose player on the button and the rest are all fairly tight and good.

Two players fold and I raise with 7d7s, folded to SB who calls(He is terrible, plays every hand etc.), BB calls(seems to be a decent, tight player but no great reads)

The flop: 7c6hTh

Checked to me, I bet and both call.

The turn: 7c6hThJc

Checked to me, I bet, shockingly the SB folds, and the BB calls.

The river: 7c6hThJcKc

The BB bets, Should I raise or call?

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I guess you're going to get shown Ac9c sometimes. I'd like to raise. I'm just trying to think what I'd do if it came back 3bets. He's also allowed to have KT which is why I don't mind the raise. Ya I raise quickly and then watch him carefully.

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I would have to call in this spot. Str8 and flush could have rivered you there.

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Call

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Raise the river. Given your description of him, I can't see him on a runner runner straight or flush draw. The only hand he could reasonably have would be exactly A9clubs.

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I would raise, and with this type of villain I might actually be able to fold to a 3bet. At least I would consider folding as I called.

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I would have to call in this spot. Str8 and flush could have rivered you there.

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which is probably why you aren't ready for mid limit. Your concern isn't what could be there every time. If that's the case you'll miss piles of value.

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I'd raise. I think folding to a 3-bet is best, but I'd call it because I'm a showdown monkey.

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I would raise, and with this type of villain I might actually be able to fold to a 3bet. At least I would consider folding as I called.

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Lol... true.

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Raise and expect to be called by kings up. If three-bet, you might be able to fold considering he should potentially fear AQ or KKK and doesn't (meaning he likely has a flush). But to me his bet is often two pair and I want to make $80 from him instead of $40.

Jeff

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Against this player, I favor a call. It seems more than 50/50 that he has made his flush or straight. Given that, a raise does not get any value, and might cost more when he three-balls, assuming you call (which I probably would because, like the earlier poster, I'm something of a showdown monkey). I like calling here.

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I might be folding this one.

Board looks really ugly on the river

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I might be folding this one.

Board looks really ugly on the river

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Tell me when you play, where you play, and what you look like!

I'm torn on this river, if you raise I think this is an easy fold to a 3. But you really need prior reads for this assessment, some guys are so passive they only bet really strong hands on the river here.

I'd say about 53% raise, 47% call.

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I might be folding this one.

Board looks really ugly on the river

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Tell me when you play, where you play, and what you look like!

I'm torn on this river, if you raise I think this is an easy fold to a 3. But you really need prior reads for this assessment, some guys are so passive they only bet really strong hands on the river here.

I'd say about 53% raise, 47% call.

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AARRRHHHHHH!!!

Its seems lately whenever I call in this spot Im always showed a str8 or flush. But if the pot is laying at least 9 to 1 in this spot im calling. Its been my experience, live at least, river donks on scare cards/boards= I HAVE THE NUTS.

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I slept on it and changed my mind. He's not afraid of a set here, 60/40 call/raise.

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I might be folding this one.

Board looks really ugly on the river

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you have to be kidding.

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I might be folding this one.

Board looks really ugly on the river

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you have to be kidding.

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We are beat here by 2 possible str8's + any flush. Maybe its MUBS, but like I said I have been getting rivered a ton lately w hands just like this.

Btw- This is by no means a default play for me. I like to show down as much as I can, esp. hu. But with the combination of possible hands that beat us is a fold that bad?

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ZOMG, don't EVER fold here, wtf??

YES, a fold is BADD

I raise this river

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call. str8 and flush possibilities are too strong to raise.

brian

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"loc: hating money", that's for sure...