200 NL. My KK runs into a 3-bet 165bbs deep.
 

Opponent is 24/8.5. I don't have a read outside of the pokertracker data. I hate these spots with KK, especially deep-stacked, and I tend to play very slow, since most players I have no history with, with these numbers, have a very tight 3-bet range. Playing slow gets more action when I'm ahead, since JJ, QQ, AK are going to be afraid of aces or kings if I 4-bet them PF. It allows me to actually get all-in when I'm ahead, since a QQ will have trouble believing I didn't re-raise PF, or play faster on the flop with a hand this good. The bet on the river made me sick. I actually had my mouse hovering over the call after I check, as I expected him to make a 100ish bet, but his push really scared me. How would you play this different?

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 7 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $490.80
BB: $209.15
UTG: $45.90
Hero (UTG+1): $331.10
MP: $43.15
CO: $563.45
BTN: $40.05

Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (7 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $6.00</font>, MP folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $22.00</font>, 3 folds, Hero calls $16.00

Flop: ($47) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, CO checks

Turn: ($47) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">CO bets $50.00</font>, Hero calls $50.00

River: ($147) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">CO bets all-in for $491.45</font>, [i]Hero ???

Re: 200 NL. My KK runs into a 3-bet 165bbs deep.
 

I'll give a shot. I think you have to give him credit for JJ here unless you have seen him overbet bluff before.

FWIW I probablly bet the turn and play it from there.
Tough hand.

Re: 200 NL. My KK runs into a 3-bet 165bbs deep.
 

4 bet preflop.

Bet the flop.

Bet the turn or CRAI on the turn.

River, decision will be made for you by the time you reach it. As played, toss up, you only beat QQ or total air, but it's hard to imagine he plays AA like this. JJ wouldn't surprise me.

Re: 200 NL. My KK runs into a 3-bet 165bbs deep.
 

Turn is ugly, I really don't understand why you didn't lead there.

Re: 200 NL. My KK runs into a 3-bet 165bbs deep.
 

i like your line as long as you fold the river. you are way too deep to even be considering a call.

Re: 200 NL. My KK runs into a 3-bet 165bbs deep.
 

Lead the turn. When he shoves there or calls and then raises AI on river fold.

Re: 200 NL. My KK runs into a 3-bet 165bbs deep.
 

I like a 4b preflop but I don't hate your line as long as you fold river.

Re: 200 NL. My KK runs into a 3-bet 165bbs deep.
 

4 bet PF, bet flop and turn... take the lead to this hand and you had the lead but you let him take it from you by just checking

Re: 200 NL. My KK runs into a 3-bet 165bbs deep.
 

I agree with them. You know you run the risk of being drawn out or pushed around since you didnt reraise preflop. You should lead out on the flop and be all in on the turn.

Re: 200 NL. My KK runs into a 3-bet 165bbs deep.
 

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I agree with them. You know you run the risk of being drawn out or pushed around since you didnt reraise preflop. You should lead out on the flop and be all in on the turn.

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because u really think that QQ will call a push on the turn on a JTxx non drawy board?

come on that's not 6m, that's FR, the only non bluff hand that we beat is QQ on the turn. And don't bet the flop when you chose to call with KK pf and you are deep unless you want to lose big or win few.

Re: 200 NL. My KK runs into a 3-bet 165bbs deep.
 

fosho, i find that most of the advice in this thread, exept for a few posters, is very wrong. to play deepstacked we must think on another level. the deeper the effective stack, the more important pot control becomes.

Re: 200 NL. My KK runs into a 3-bet 165bbs deep.
 

4/bet PF is really horrible i think. It turns our KK into a bluff, essentially saying "if you have AA, then you can stack me, else just play for set value."

Just call and play some poker. I would definately bet somewhere, although the river sucks and there's no way you can call.

Re: 200 NL. My KK runs into a 3-bet 165bbs deep.
 

I think you played this exactly right, assuming you folded the river.

Results
 

Sorry for the anticlimactic finish, but I mucked the river.

Re: Results
 

I think you should have bet it somewhere still. I like leading the turn, but if you check call then I think maybe some kind of two way, block/vbet is in order on the river. He won't raise with less than a set hardly ever. Maybe something like $90-100.