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This hand occurred today against stdjog12, a pretty good regular who likes to take dumps in large pots often.

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $2/$4 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $698.70
DCal Zone (BB): $444.00
UTG: $724.00
MP: $73.50
CO: $751.70
BTN: $346.00

Preflop: DCal Zone is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 Players)
2 folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $16.00</font>, 2 folds, <font color="red">DCal Zone raises to $52.00</font>, CO calls $36.00

Flop: ($106) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">DCal Zone bets $72.00</font>, CO calls $72.00

Turn: ($250) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
DCal Zone checks, CO checks

River: ($250) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
DCal Zone checks, <font color="red">CO bets $568.00</font>, DCal Zone calls all-in for $320.00
Uncalled bet of $248.00 returned to CO

Pot Size: $890.00 ($3 Rake)

CO had 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (two pair, Kings and Fives) and LOST (-$444.00)
DCal Zone had A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (two pair, Aces and Kings) and WON (+$443.00)

After the hand he says:

stdjog12: forgot to not do that to you


Is he complimenting my good call? Or is he insulting me for not folding AA on a scary board?

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Play with chat off

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he's calling you a fish! fish!

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He's saying that you're a calling station. He's not considering how suspicious his betting is; he just can't fathom why you would call off your entire stack when he's "obviously" representing a big hand.

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I think he's complimenting your call... He's a 2+2 midstakes poster, but I'm not sure if his sn is public or not so I'm not gonna out him, but maybe he'll drop by to confirm.

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this is pretty lol that u posted this

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He's calling you a fish and you should think he's not going to bluff you again.

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this is pretty lol that u posted this

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He's indicating that he has previous history that suggests you can't fold a big hand on the river, but went ahead with the bluff line anyway. Basically, to him you're a calling station who should have folded to this bet. I wouldn't worry too much about it, make note that he's not going to fire a river against you in a three bet pot without the goods.

As for his move, it's not great, I can't really see how he has a flush unless he's previously called three bets pre with SC's. He probably doesn't have a naked K, so your river call looks good to me, 8s full is pretty much the only hand I'd worry about but I doubt it takes this line. Just for the hell of it, considering that you have the Ac, what did you put him on, total air?

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his line sucks

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his line sucks

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I guess, I mean would it be a really bad way to play a boat? Hero is going to call with any king if he calls AA.

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his line sucks

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I guess, I mean would it be a really bad way to play a boat? Hero is going to call with any king if he calls AA.

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The only thing he's really representing is TT or a slowplayed nut flush.

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his line sucks

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hero's line sucks a lot worse.

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He's indicating that he has previous history that suggests you can't fold a big hand on the river, but went ahead with the bluff line anyway. Basically, to him you're a calling station who should have folded to this bet. I wouldn't worry too much about it, make note that he's not going to fire a river against you in a three bet pot without the goods.

As for his move, it's not great, I can't really see how he has a flush unless he's previously called three bets pre with SC's. He probably doesn't have a naked K, so your river call looks good to me, 8s full is pretty much the only hand I'd worry about but I doubt it takes this line. Just for the hell of it, considering that you have the Ac, what did you put him on, total air?

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Yes I put him on total air. This is the 3rd time I can remember that he has made a big river shove with air and I've called him. I didn't even think he had clubs cause I think he'll shove the flop most times with clubs. I don't even like his river shove with 55 if he thinks I'm weak because 55 will win a showdown a decent amount of the time here and I'm not really gonna fold any decent pair against him due to our history.

I know it was a good call, was just trying to figure out if his chat indicates that he thinks I'm really good or if he thinks I'm a donkey.

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I would say its an insult.

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his line sucks

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hero's line sucks a lot worse.

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Really? Could you please explain your thoughts?

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I think Hero's line is good, he had a read on the villain's tendencies and set him up

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his line sucks

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hero's line sucks a lot worse.

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BUT, hero's line got the absolute most possible out of 55, lol

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check turn, c/c river is retarded.

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I think Hero's line is good, he had a read on the villain's tendencies and set him up

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looks like variance if hes making a [censored] thread like this.

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His comment could be a compliment saying I shouldn't do vs someone who knows I will usually only do this with the nuts/air.

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His comment could be a compliment saying I shouldn't do vs someone who knows I will usually only do this with the nuts/air.

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lol its not a compliment

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check turn, c/c river is retarded.

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What would be a better line and why?

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definitely not a compliment. He wanted you to go away and you didn't. great call dcal. stdjog is a bit aggro to say the least. and by aggro i mean capable of bluffing away all his money.

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check turn, c/c river is retarded.

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What would be a better line and why?

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1/3 pot turn, rest on river.
shove turn.
bet river.

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I'd bet like $135 on turn as Hero and shove any river. I agree check/calling down is pretty bad here, loses way too much value.

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i don't think hero's line is THAT bad, depending on opponent.

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this is pretty lol that u posted this

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yea i'm with you on that one

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check turn, c/c river is retarded.

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What's a better way to play this hand? Against this opponent I'm sure that this is the best way to play the hand. He shoves rivers as a bluff a lot.

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vs this opponent i think you played it perfectly. Hard to call on the end, but thats why you checked it to him after all, correct?

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This villan is a monkey, and he's shoving any hand with value way before the river. He has air here most of the time.

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vs this opponent i think you played it perfectly. Hard to call on the end, but thats why you checked it to him after all, correct?

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