3/6 Line check vs good LAG in RRd pot
 

Villain is dwballz, one of the best mid-high stakes NL regs in FTP IMO, and this is the first time i've seen him at 3/6 in a while. He's 2 spots to my left and has been 3 betting me and playing back at me a decent amount, and I've been folding to him. we're both playing like 26/20ish atm. In retrospect I kind of like bet/calling the flop here, but I went for a c/r all in because it looks like I have a draw and he might call with worse. What do you guys think?

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $3/$6 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

Hero (SB): $644.30
BB: $571.60
UTG: $638.00
CO: $122.40
BTN: $1,167.50

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 Players)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $21.00</font>, 2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $70.00</font>, BB folds, UTG calls $49.00

Flop: ($146) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">UTG bets $125.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises all-in to $574.30</font>

Re: 3/6 Line check vs good LAG in RRd pot
 

have you been 3 betting him alot? Has he been calling, folding?

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what hands are you looking for him to call with? seems like he can only call with a very limited amount of hands. i think i'd rather bet/call

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have you been 3 betting him alot? Has he been calling, folding?

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Yea, we've been going at it a little preflop but almost all 3 betting has been uncontested thus far. At this point I was pretty sure he'd call me with just about ATC preflop.

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bet/call &gt; crai

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what hands are you looking for him to call with? seems like he can only call with a very limited amount of hands. i think i'd rather bet/call

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I think he's capable of putting me on some sort of drawing hand/overcards when I check the flop and bet/call worse but I think I like betting and giving him a chance to shove over my cbet with AQ/KQ or something like that.

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edit: i gotta stop posting while i'm playing. it hampers my ability to read properly.

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i don't think this is so bad. i think he calls with 77,88,9X, 1010 a lot here, not to mention there's a ton of draws out that he could easily have. i think if we were up against JJ-AA we would have had a better idea preflop given his line, and i think we can reasonably rule out KJ,AJ...i doubt he's calling a re-raise OOP with that kind of a hand. i think this just fine.

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he's in position and how is 9x better than KJ or AJ?

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bet/call &gt; crai

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bet/call &gt; crai

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yes, bet/call is infinitely better.

-obiedman

Re: 3/6 Line check vs good LAG in RRd pot
 

i like this line vs dwballz to be honest.

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i think you want him to be putting the money in last so yea b/c &gt; c/rai.

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could someone explain the b/c vs c/rai further?

Imo this is really opponent specific right? Òr is bet/call always better than c/rai in this spot?

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Because if we bet, we give him a chance to push as a bluff.

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i like this line vs dwballz to be honest.

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That's kind of what I was thinking at the time. I felt like he was getting ready to play back at me, so I think bet/calling is probably a bit better here since I think he's pushing a wide range on this flop. I really just did this because I know he's a good hand reader, and my line here is mainly meant to confuse him into making a bad call.

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Yeah I like bet/call better here than c/r ai. I suppose this is fine though, hard to say. Once we check we can't really c/f and c/c is going to make the rest of the hand extremely akward.

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sooo did he fold his air, or bet/call with a draw, or bet/call and have u smoked?

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sooo did he fold his air, or bet/call with a draw, or bet/call and have u smoked?

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He folded rather quickly

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PM me your screen name if its not public knowledge. Im not sure what I had and what our history is like so Im not really sure about the hand. Kind of a cool line though, dont see it that often with tpgk.

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i like this line vs dwballz to be honest.

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That's kind of what I was thinking at the time. I felt like he was getting ready to play back at me, so I think bet/calling is probably a bit better here since I think he's pushing a wide range on this flop. I really just did this because I know he's a good hand reader, and my line here is mainly meant to confuse him into making a bad call.

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I'm not that high on 3-betting w/ Q-high against someone in a non-steal position, but its obviously ok. I'd also prefer a bet-call.

Finally, i'm not sure why everyone thinks DW is so good. I'm pretty sure I have him down a bunch of money at 5-10+.

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i cant see him calling with any hands u beat on the flop, i dont really like crai at all.

also i dont know how much i like the 3 bet preflop if youve been doing it alot. nows the time to tighten up a little and do it with a good hand because he is surely calling your 3 bet light in position, and is going to make it hard for u to play postflop.