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tozzy 08-19-2007 09:07 AM

AK in a family pot facing heat
 
Allright, im not so sure about the cbet but i felt the flop was way too drawy not to:

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $3/$6 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $585.00
BB: $1,037.35
Hero (UTG): $1,279.90
MP: $661.82
CO: $606.00
BTN: $481.80

Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $21.00</font>, MP calls $21.00, CO calls $21.00, BTN calls $21.00, 2 folds

Flop: ($93) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $80.00</font>, MP calls $80.00, 2 folds

Turn: ($253) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $180.00</font>, <font color="red">MP raises all-in to $560.82</font>, Hero ???

Villain is tantalus333 who I have running as 28/19/2.5 over as little as 200 hands.

Albert Moulton 08-19-2007 09:50 PM

Re: AK in a family pot facing heat
 
1.77:1 pot odds

I think you are about a 2:1 dog vs a range like { 33, AsTs, KQs, KTs, JTs, 9s8s, 8s7s, KQo } assuming villain would have reraised preflop JJ-AA and AK/AQs/AJs instead of calling.

So, it's a close fold vs this range. If he is capable of float/stealing with air a decent amount of time, then call. It's actually pretty close to neutral EV either way depending on how you adjust his hand range.

It's really not a clear and easy fold unless you narrow him down to 2-pair or better as the majority of his likely hands here. But, I don't think you can narrow him down that easily.

Borned_Luckbox1 08-19-2007 09:55 PM

Re: AK in a family pot facing heat
 
I check turn.

yabastid 08-19-2007 09:57 PM

Re: AK in a family pot facing heat
 
I don't understand the turn bet here . . .

jfish 08-19-2007 10:01 PM

Re: AK in a family pot facing heat
 
eh i call i thinkkkk.

Trix 08-19-2007 10:20 PM

Re: AK in a family pot facing heat
 
Think I call.

shorn7 08-19-2007 10:26 PM

Re: AK in a family pot facing heat
 
Looks like a combo. draw picked up on the turn like JTs or something like that. Great raise by him n o matter what he has.

I also check this turn for pot control.

As played, I think I muck it. But, depends on what you have seen villain do in the past.

kevdawg21 08-19-2007 11:03 PM

Re: AK in a family pot facing heat
 
It appears that i'm in the minority here, but i'd let this go. We've raised PF UTG, followed a big flop with a near psb into three players, got called and led the turn with a 3/4 pot bet. Our hand should look pretty freakin strong right now. Are we really thinking his plan is to push us off the winner when we could easily have KK/QQ and we're going to be getting huge odds to call?

DND 08-19-2007 11:28 PM

Re: AK in a family pot facing heat
 
check the turn
fold as played I think

e_hammer 08-20-2007 12:28 AM

Re: AK in a family pot facing heat
 
hate the turn bet, as played i think it is really close, and if i have ANY indication that villain has high aggression on turn, then i call. Sets and Top two dont really make sense here at all.

wpr103 08-20-2007 12:56 AM

Re: AK in a family pot facing heat
 
I'd check the turn here usually. The FD missed which is his most likely hand in my opinion (or maybe JT). Most players raise that flop with a set or top two. However, his turn line kind of confuses me. As played, I probably fold.


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