*** Saturday, August 18th Freeroll Thread ***
 

So far I'm just folding everything in the 50k. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

Good luck guys.

Re: *** Saturday, August 18th Freeroll Thread ***
 

Flopped a set on like the second or third hand of the $50K. Raised pot but villain bailed to my checkraise (drawy flop). $2.2K.

Re: *** Saturday, August 18th Freeroll Thread ***
 

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP1 (t2845)
MP2 (t1340)
Hero (t2200)
CO (t2525)
Button (t1340)
SB (t1260)
BB (t2635)
UTG (t1610)
UTG+1 (t1385)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t90</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, BB calls t60.

Flop: (t195) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t120</font>, BB calls t120.

Turn: (t435) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets t120</font>, Hero calls t120.

River: (t675) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets t330</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t1000</font>, BB calls t670.

Final Pot: t2675

Results in white below:
BB has 9d Th (two pair, tens and nines).
Hero has Qh Jd (straight, king high).
Outcome: Hero wins t2675.

Re: *** Saturday, August 18th Freeroll Thread ***
 

Out of the 50k a bit early today.

Chips got down a little bit and then I ran jacks into a LAGS aces.

Someone else is gonna have to take it down.

Re: *** Saturday, August 18th Freeroll Thread ***
 

I have been dealt AA, KK, AK, KQs, 1010, KQo and AQ so far and I have managed to only be up 500 chips.

Re: *** Saturday, August 18th Freeroll Thread ***
 

From the $20K

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG+1 (t1545)
MP1 (t3510)
MP2 (t2005)
MP3 (t1375)
CO (t1175)
Button (t1220)
Hero (t1670)
BB (t1425)
UTG (t2585)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to t90</font>, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, Hero calls t75, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: (t210) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets t200</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t600</font>, UTG+1 calls t400.

Turn: (t1410) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t980 (All-In)</font>, UTG+1 calls t855 (All-In).

River: (t3245) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t3120

Results in white below:
Hero has Kd Kc (one pair, kings).
UTG+1 has As Qs (one pair, queens).
Outcome: Hero wins t3245.

Re: *** Saturday, August 18th Freeroll Thread ***
 

From the $50K

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP2 (t2735)
MP3 (t865)
Hero (t3070)
Button (t3735)
SB (t870)
BB (t905)
UTG (t2035)
UTG+1 (t2005)
MP1 (t920)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t300</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to t3735</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls t2770 (All-In).

Flop: (t6955) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Turn: (t6955) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: (t6955) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t6290

Results in white below:
Hero has As Ah (full house, aces full of fives).
Button has Ac Qs (two pair, aces and fives).
Outcome: Hero wins t6290. Button wins t665.

Re: *** Saturday, August 18th Freeroll Thread ***
 

gg. I just hate tournament play.

PokerStars Game #11556636108: Tournament #56816000, Freeroll Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2007/08/18 - 14:49:53 (ET)
Table '56816000 2' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: mrpotatohead (3720 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 2: BeatPurdue (1260 in chips)
Seat 3: Money_1985 (1245 in chips)
Seat 5: dananddan (4290 in chips)
Seat 6: DigDugMe (1690 in chips)
Seat 7: DivisnByZero (2190 in chips)
Seat 8: FCBayernNo1 (1135 in chips)
Seat 9: run409 (3140 in chips)
DigDugMe: posts small blind 50
DivisnByZero: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to BeatPurdue [As Kc]
FCBayernNo1: folds
mrpotatohead has returned
run409: folds
nutcase is connected
mrpotatohead: calls 100
BeatPurdue: raises 300 to 400
Money_1985: folds
dananddan: folds
DigDugMe: folds
DivisnByZero: folds
mrpotatohead: calls 300
*** FLOP *** [3d Kd 8d]
mrpotatohead: checks
BeatPurdue: bets 860 and is all-in
mrpotatohead: calls 860
*** TURN *** [3d Kd 8d] [Js]
*** RIVER *** [3d Kd 8d Js] [Td]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
mrpotatohead: shows [Ad Qh] (a flush, Ace high)
BeatPurdue: shows [As Kc] (a pair of Kings)
mrpotatohead collected 2670 from pot

Re: *** Saturday, August 18th Freeroll Thread ***
 

Dammit!

From the $20K. One of them has to have AA/KK right?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP2 (t1365)
MP3 (t3535)
CO (t2025)
Button (t1300)
SB (t1125)
BB (t1390)
Hero (t3245)
UTG+1 (t1380)
MP1 (t2630)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t150</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to t400</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to t1125</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero folds, CO calls t725.

Flop: (t2450) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Turn: (t2450) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

River: (t2450) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: t2450

Results in white below:
SB has Js Jd (one pair, jacks).
CO has Th Tc (one pair, tens).
Outcome: SB wins t2450.

Re: *** Saturday, August 18th Freeroll Thread ***
 

boo I always miss them, what time do they start?

Re: *** Saturday, August 18th Freeroll Thread ***
 

2pm and 2:30pm every Saturday. The $100K is next week, don't miss it!

Re: *** Saturday, August 18th Freeroll Thread ***
 

$50K

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t150 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB (t1575)
UTG (t2890)
UTG+1 (t3090)
MP1 (t755)
MP2 (t3590)
MP3 (t1595)
CO (t255)
Hero (t7085)
SB (t6015)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises to t600</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t1200</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises to t1595</font>, Hero calls t395.

Flop: (t3415) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Turn: (t3415) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

River: (t3415) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: t3415

Results in white below:
MP3 has Jc Jh (four of a kind, jacks).
Hero has Ks Kh (two pair, kings and jacks).
Outcome: MP3 wins t3415. </font>

Re: *** Saturday, August 18th Freeroll Thread ***
 

$50K

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t150 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP1 (t1800)
MP2 (t2665)
MP3 (t2865)
CO (t530)
Button (t3590)
SB (t3265)
BB (t255)
Hero (t5490)
UTG+1 (t6390)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t450</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises to t2865</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to t3590</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero folds.

Flop: (t7130) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Turn: (t7130) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

River: (t7130) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: t6405

Results in white below:
MP3 has Jd Ad (one pair, aces).
Button has Qh Qs (three of a kind, queens).
Outcome: Button wins t6405. </font>

Re: *** Saturday, August 18th Freeroll Thread ***
 

LOL donkaments...

are really stupid.

Lost my flip in the 20k (AQ&lt;JJ).

Re: *** Saturday, August 18th Freeroll Thread ***
 

CMAR,

that's a very bad fold with AK there btw.

Re: *** Saturday, August 18th Freeroll Thread ***
 

And let me add that I hate stud and for some reason I am in a very bad mood right now despite having a great day in the cash games.

Re: *** Saturday, August 18th Freeroll Thread ***
 

$20K

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP1 (t2895)
MP2 (t2745)
MP3 (t16547)
CO (t5665)
Button (t5836)
Hero (t3340)
BB (t3195)
UTG (t3050)
UTG+1 (t6669)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, MP3 calls t200, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t700) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t500</font>, BB folds, MP3 calls t500.

Turn: (t1700) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t960</font>, MP3 calls t960.

River: (t3620) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t1655 (All-In)</font>, MP3 calls t1655.

Final Pot: t6930

Results in white below:
Hero has As 5s (two pair, aces and fives).
MP3 has Ad 3s (one pair, aces).
Outcome: Hero wins t6930. </font>

Re: *** Saturday, August 18th Freeroll Thread ***
 

[ QUOTE ]
that's a very bad fold with AK there btw.

[/ QUOTE ]

No.

Re: *** Saturday, August 18th Freeroll Thread ***
 

67th out of 156 on break. 28 from the money.

Re: *** Saturday, August 18th Freeroll Thread ***
 

I was down to 1300 5 minutes ago, and won 4 consecutive pots.

Re: *** Saturday, August 18th Freeroll Thread ***
 

Do you have to qualifiy for the freerolls with FPPs? Or open for everyone?Can't imagine that...

Re: *** Saturday, August 18th Freeroll Thread ***
 

You need to be Supernova to enter the $50K. Or you need to qualify through FPP satellites.

The $20K costs 100FPP and anyone Silver or better can join.

The $100K monthly is Gold or better to join or you need to satellite in.

Re: *** Saturday, August 18th Freeroll Thread ***
 

the $50k is for Supernova players only; however they run fpp sattellites during the week for others to qualify. I believe the $20k is open to silver and up players, but has a buyin of 100 fpp.

Re: *** Saturday, August 18th Freeroll Thread ***
 

i have to unfortunately check fold my way into the money; the guy to my right has a big stack, and is going allin every hand.

Re: *** Saturday, August 18th Freeroll Thread ***
 

$16 in the baby VIP. Woohoo!

Re: *** Saturday, August 18th Freeroll Thread ***
 

Anybody else still in the $50K?

Re: *** Saturday, August 18th Freeroll Thread ***
 

I'm mid-stacked, took a bit of a hit AJ&lt;Q9.

Re: *** Saturday, August 18th Freeroll Thread ***
 

im in.

Re: *** Saturday, August 18th Freeroll Thread ***
 

GOGOGOGOGOGOGO!

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[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
that's a very bad fold with AK there btw.

[/ QUOTE ]

No.

[/ QUOTE ]

Why are you scared to get your money in there? You're almost always getting 2:1 on what is likely close to an even-money gamble.

Re: *** Saturday, August 18th Freeroll Thread ***
 

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t800 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB (t10101)
BB (t32832)
UTG (t12930)
UTG+1 (t12696)
MP1 (t11014)
MP2 (t1744)
MP3 (t33440)
Hero (t7329)
Button (t16218)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to t1694</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises to t4000</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to t10051</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP3 calls t6051.

Flop: (t22096) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>

Turn: (t22096) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>

River: (t22096) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>

Final Pot: t22096

Results in white below:
SB has As Kd (flush, king high).
MP2 has Ah Jc (one pair, jacks).
MP3 has Kh Ks (one pair, kings).
Outcome: SB wins t22096. </font>

Re: *** Saturday, August 18th Freeroll Thread ***
 

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Why are you scared to get your money in there? You're almost always getting 2:1 on what is likely close to an even-money gamble.

[/ QUOTE ]

Both players are reasonable, nobody is shortstacked, nobody is desperate. I raised UTG, was 3-bet and then a push. If I call, I'm playing for my stack. What kind of range do you put them on?

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 23.667% 12.39% 11.28% 148800331 135391425.67 { AcKd }
Hand 1: 30.764% 27.70% 03.07% 332568514 36843835.17 { TT+, AJs+, AJo+ }
Hand 2: 45.568% 35.34% 10.23% 424306979 122869419.17 { QQ+, AKs, AKo }

Re: *** Saturday, August 18th Freeroll Thread ***
 

Out for $115. Pushed 89s in the CO, BB called with AQs.

Re: *** Saturday, August 18th Freeroll Thread ***
 

[ QUOTE ]
Both players are reasonable

[/ QUOTE ]

Maybe it's just me, but pushing AJ to an UTG raise (from a tight player nonetheless) doesn't really seem very reasonable.

Re: *** Saturday, August 18th Freeroll Thread ***
 

Out in 59th for $135, when big stack decided to call my allin raise with J 10. I had A2 suited, flopped an ace, but he hit a flush on me.

Re: *** Saturday, August 18th Freeroll Thread ***
 

[ QUOTE ]
Maybe it's just me, but pushing AJ to an UTG raise (from a tight player nonetheless) doesn't really seem very reasonable.


[/ QUOTE ]

I can only go by their PT numbers.

And anyway, you're now trying to have your cake and eat it. If you think he should have a tighter range, then a fold is even more correct.

When was the last time someone 3-bet/folded in a freeroll? If I call it's a 3-way all-in virtually always. And there's not many scenarios where it's even break-even EV. If I don't win, I'm either out or I'm crippled.

Re: *** Saturday, August 18th Freeroll Thread ***
 

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When was the last time someone 3-bet/folded in a freeroll?

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I guess the only thing I'm trying to say is the fact that it is a freeroll will lead me to believe that the ranges of my opponents are probably larger than I can normally expect.

I take back what I said as far as the fold being terrible (or whatever term I used). But I think you are giving up some EV in these spots.

Re: *** Saturday, August 18th Freeroll Thread ***
 

First hand of the Silver freeroll? Sure..

An hour and a half into the Supernova against players who haven't gotten out of line? No..

Re: *** Saturday, August 18th Freeroll Thread ***
 

$28 in the Silver. QQ vs 67s preflop hurt me. Eventually I felt forced into a dubious all-in with A4s from the SB, ran into AQ and didn't suckout. *horrible* tourney structure. By the time I was knocked out, the average stack was less than 7*BB. Still, a nice little freebie to run in the background whilst concentrating on other stuff I suppose.

Re: *** Saturday, August 18th Freeroll Thread ***
 

Top 10 in chips with 22 left in 50k.