3/6 So many good options, but which one is best?
 

3/6NL. 600 stacks.
I, 24/16 in CO w/ Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
20/15 reasonable TAG on BTN.

PF: I raise to 21, BTN calls, blinds fold.

Flop ($51): 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

I bet $42, BTN calls.

Turn ($135): 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

I... ($535 each to play)

Re: 3/6 So many good options, but which one is best?
 

c/rai

Re: 3/6 So many good options, but which one is best?
 

yup i like a c/rai as well. you could lead for like 115, but i don't like it nearly as much as c/r

Re: 3/6 So many good options, but which one is best?
 

I'm assuming it's 4 handed. If he's a reasonable TAG I would say his range of hands that made it to the turn are AQ, KQ, QJ, Q10, J10, 99-AA to a lesser extent, but quite possible depending on his reraising range PF and his view of you and what you're raising range is.
So basically you're really ahead of 1 hand here up to 3 if you include 10s and Js. The turn is a decent card for you because you pick up a draw and have chances to chop w/ QJ, and KQ. Given this board I doubt villain will fold any of the hands that are currently beating you so I would check and see what he does and call a reasonable turn bet of up to the pot.
But take this with a grain of salt because I play live full ring.

Re: 3/6 So many good options, but which one is best?
 

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c/rai

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I dont really ever like leading here

Re: 3/6 So many good options, but which one is best?
 

CC probably isnt horrible

Re: 3/6 So many good options, but which one is best?
 

I'm not sure what crai accomplishes.

Re: 3/6 So many good options, but which one is best?
 

What should he call with?

C/C imo

Re: 3/6 So many good options, but which one is best?
 

c/r ai > c/c >>>> anything else

Re: 3/6 So many good options, but which one is best?
 

if he can call you with 88/fold KQ then crai is good. o/w it seems like you're doing it to avoid an awkward river spot.

Re: 3/6 So many good options, but which one is best?
 

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if he can call you with 88/fold KQ then crai is good. o/w it seems like you're doing it to avoid an awkward river spot.

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If I check/call, it's with the intention of betting a T, Q, or spade or folding to a river bet (he'll give up when behind a fair bit I assume).

If you're villain and you hold KQ, do you call a c/r AI and equally importantly, how often do you bet when checked to?

Re: 3/6 So many good options, but which one is best?
 

i dont generally like to c/rai here, it turns your hand into a naked flush draw with maybe some kicker outs. its a pretty obvious option when nothing else seems good, but its not a great option.

c/c works alright and without committing your stack, you just have to do some thinkin on the river.

Re: 3/6 So many good options, but which one is best?
 

bet?

Re: 3/6 So many good options, but which one is best?
 

i'd usually check KQ, but i see alot of people advising players to bet pps/Qs here for whatever reason (in ssnl anyway) so i imagine some tags would bet this turn quite a bit with most of their range. Could be wrong.

Just throwing some ideas out there in the last post really.

Re: 3/6 So many good options, but which one is best?
 

CC > CRAI

Re: 3/6 So many good options, but which one is best?
 

CRAI > CC > Bet/Call

Re: 3/6 So many good options, but which one is best?
 

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if he can call you with 88/fold KQ then crai is good. o/w it seems like you're doing it to avoid an awkward river spot.

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Nothing awkward about the river spade, PUMP YO' FIST!!!

Re: 3/6 So many good options, but which one is best?
 

i cant imagine he calls a crai with anything we beat. can someone explain why they like it?

Re: 3/6 So many good options, but which one is best?
 

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i cant imagine he calls a crai with anything we beat. can someone explain why they like it?

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u can use that argument for nearly any hand you might cr. that doesnt mean its not an effective play. of course hero doesnt want a call, but has outs if so.

Re: 3/6 So many good options, but which one is best?
 

cc or bf are safe moves. cr more risky but can work if think hes weak

Re: 3/6 So many good options, but which one is best?
 

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i cant imagine he calls a crai with anything we beat. can someone explain why they like it?

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u can use that argument for nearly any hand you might cr. that doesnt mean its not an effective play. of course hero doesnt want a call, but has outs if so.

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so we are cring hoping he folds kq or qj?

Re: 3/6 So many good options, but which one is best?
 

weak=KQ etc

Re: 3/6 So many good options, but which one is best?
 

if he knows how good of a card that is to double barrel, then bet/call ahoy!

Re: 3/6 So many good options, but which one is best?
 

bet for value